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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Chance that the SPLC convinces the government to label us a terrorist group? 0%
    Seeing as how the SPLC already has, the chance is actually 100%, which equals to R3.0 once again exposing his ignorance.

    The SPLC authored the MIAC Fusion Center Report that identified "potential domestic terrorists" as including":

    outspoken critics of a Con-Con, critics of NAU, critics of human use of RFID, opponents of abortion, opponents of immigration policies, survivalists training, preppers, critics of the Federal Reserve, member of or people who display or posses material from "Constitutional Party, Campaign for Liberty, or Libertarian material", "supporters of former Presidential Candidate: Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr", people who display or distribute Gadsen flag, Molon labe, Aaron Russo's America:Freedom to Fascism, Zeitgeist the Movie, among many others.

    In addition, the SPLC published its absurd "extremist" list of potential domestic terrorist enablers watch list ("hit list") [since been taken down from its website] that included:
    1. Chuck Baldwin, Pastor, Radio Broadcaster, Syndicated Columnist, 2008 Constitution Party Presidential nominee.
    2. Joe Banister, former IRS special agent, tax protester.
    3. Martin "Red" Beckman, tax protester
    4. Catherine Bleish, head of the Liberty Restoration Project.
    5. Chris Broughton, Second Amendment advocate, member of "We The People" group.
    6. Bob Campbell, head of American Grand Jury.
    7. Robert Crooks, Army veteran, retired commercial fisherman, anti-illegal immigration proponent.
    8. Joseph Farah, CEO of World Net Daily
    9. Gary Franchi, producer of "Camp FEMA: American Lockdown," national director of RestoreTheRepublic.com.
    10. Al Garza, head of the Patriot's Coalition, an anti-illegal immigration group.
    11. Ted Gunderson, retired FBI agent.
    12. John Hassey, "The public face of Alabama's militia movement in the late 1990s," says SPLC.
    13. Alex Jones, Radio Talk Show host.
    14. Devvy Kidd, "prolific columnist, blogger, and public speaker."
    15. Larry Kilgore, telecommunications consultant, former US Senate candidate from Texas, pro-secession advocate.
    16. Cliff Kincaid, syndicated columnist and author, editor of AIM Report (Accuracy in Media's publication), founder and president of America's Survival, Inc., a UN watchdog group.
    17. Mark Koernke, associated with the now-defunct Michigan Militia.
    18. Richard Mack, former Graham County, Arizona, Sheriff, author, and public speaker.
    19. Jack McLamb, former Phoenix, Arizona, police officer, author, and public speaker.
    20. John McManus, former member of the US Marine Corps, president of the John Birch Society.
    21. Daniel New, father of Michael New (the Army medic who refused to wear a UN uniform), author, public speaker.
    22. Norm Olson, founder of the now-defunct Michigan Militia.
    23. Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America.
    24. Stewart Rhodes, Army veteran and Yale Law School graduate, founder of Oath Keepers.
    25. Jon Roland, computer specialist, founder of the Constitution Society.
    26. Luke Rudkowski, founder We Are Change.
    27. Robert "Bob" Schultz, founder of We The People.
    28. Joel Skousen, editor, World Affairs Brief.
    29. Jim Stachowiak, Radio Talk Show host, "Longtime militia organizer," claims SPLC.
    30. John Stadtmiller, founder, Republic Broadcasting Network.
    31. Orly Taitz, California attorney, a leader in the push to make President Obama disclose his US birth certificate.
    32. Amanda Teegarden, executive director of Oklahomans for Sovereignty and Free Enterprise.
    33. Mike Vanderboegh, anti-Obama health care activist.
    34. Paul Venable, former candidate for the Idaho House of Representatives.
    35. Edwin Vieira, Jr., attorney, author, proponent of constitutional State militias, lecturer.
    36. Michele Bachmann, US Representative from Minnesota.
    37. Glenn Beck, Fox News Channel TV host.
    38. Paul Broun, medical doctor, US Representative from Georgia.
    39. Andrew Napolitano, attorney, former State judge in New Jersey, Fox News Channel legal analyist, lecturer.
    40. Ron Paul, former member of the US Air Force, medical doctor, US Representative from Texas, 2008 Republican candidate for President.


    OMG. Look at all those scary "potential terrorists" - Ron Paul, Andrew Napolitano, Luke Rudkowski, Chuck Baldwin. Sure looks like a who's who of potential recruits for Washington's next ISIS, Al Qaeda, or patsy.

    Yep, SPLC sure seems like a real responsible organization that R3.0 keeps trying to run cover for.
    Last edited by AZJoe; 12-08-2017 at 08:05 AM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Chance that the SPLC convinces the government to label us a terrorist group? 0%
    Chance that R3v 3.3 has any credibility? 0.3%
    Last edited by RJB; 12-08-2017 at 12:17 PM. Reason: Changed it from 0% because Zip and company give him an appearance of credibility.
    ...



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Most of the people the SPLC calls racists are racists (from frothing at the mouth NAZIs to the relatively harmless Mexicuns r takin muh jerbs types).
    They lump like the KKK in with Center for Immigration Studies for a reason. It is meant to shutdown debate.

    Here is an example. Mark Krikorian is a "Mexicans take jobs" Republican in the Pat Buchanan mold. I don't agree with that argument, but it is a legitimate debate. I have watched him argue his points on Stossel and came across very well. Putting a center-right, National Review Republican on their list of HATE groups is beyond ridiculous.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.d459b93cf53b

    My overarching point (...which needs to be made a lot these days), is that libertarians don't have a dog in this fight.
    Well. Ron Paul gets put on their lists. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C...54.lul7fYuNMfI

  6. #34
    Info Website on SPLC: http://splcexposed.com/
    Last edited by AZJoe; 01-17-2018 at 09:09 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Meet The Southern Poverty Law Center

    Do I have to?
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

  8. #36
    Use the IRS to crush them.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Chance that the SPLC convinces the government to label us a terrorist group? 0%
    You said that out loud.

    You can't seriously believe it to be true.. This Forum has documented proof to the contrary.

    So,, Why would you post something so demonstrably false,, but downright stupid?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    You said that out loud.

    You can't seriously believe it to be true.. This Forum has documented proof to the contrary.

    So,, Why would you post something so demonstrably false,, but downright stupid?
    I have a couple ideas about that, but I should probably keep them to myself.
    "The Patriarch"

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    You said that out loud.

    You can't seriously believe it to be true.. This Forum has documented proof to the contrary.

    So,, Why would you post something so demonstrably false,, but downright stupid?
    '

    Because he is a reality detached person who refuses to believe their are enemies/ people who differ from him/his world view and sees them/him as a threat.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    You said that out loud.

    You can't seriously believe it to be true.. This Forum has documented proof to the contrary.

    So,, Why would you post something so demonstrably false,, but downright stupid?
    I'm not being put in a camp by the Deep State™.

    The regular state is, however, continuing to consume an ever-increasing share of gross domestic product.

    ..but I guess we're better off because tell-it-like-it-is-TV-boy-that's-entertaining-what-a-breath-of-fresh-air-though-nothing-actually-changed.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I'm not being put in a camp by the Deep State™.

    The regular state is, however, continuing to consume an ever-increasing share of gross domestic product.

    ..but I guess we're better off because tell-it-like-it-is-TV-boy-that's-entertaining-what-a-breath-of-fresh-air-though-nothing-actually-changed.
    Well that is an interesting rant,, but totally pointless.

    and in response to,
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Chance that the SPLC convinces the government to label us a terrorist group? 0%
    Why do you LIE?
    and then pretend that you did not.

    Why do you defend an organization (SPLC) so corrupt and contrary to liberty.?

    Why would you try to convince those already maligned by this ordinization that it never happened?

    answer please.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Well that is an interesting rant,, but totally pointless.

    and in response to,

    Why do you LIE?
    and then pretend that you did not.

    Why do you defend an organization (SPLC) so corrupt and contrary to liberty.?

    Why would you try to convince those already maligned by this ordinization that it never happened?

    answer please.
    Which statement of mine are you claiming was a lie (provide a quote)?

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Which statement of mine are you claiming was a lie (provide a quote)?
    Quote was provided.. (you really are dim)
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Chance that the SPLC convinces the government to label us a terrorist group? 0%
    And as others have posted, this is false. SPLC is an arm of Government and is entrenched in the Fusion Centers throughout the country.
    This has been thoroughly researched here in the past.. Initially with the MIAC Report.

    So the quote was provided.. and the proof of falsehood has been proven.

    Why do you Lie?

    and why defend the reprehensible actions of these Social Controllers?
    Last edited by pcosmar; 12-29-2017 at 09:17 PM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  17. #44
    @pcosmar

    It seems we're talking past one another. My point was that the SPLC is just some gang of people who have no power and don't matter. They might label Paulites or libertarians as extremists, but this doesn't affect things in the way you think. I'm not presently living in an SPLC camp run by FEMA (nor will I ever be); I'm at home, doing what I'd do if the SPLC didn't exist at all. The real purpose of the SPLC is to get the Democrats all hopped up and bring out their vote, which also gets out their opponents (i.e. you). You have an opinion about this obscure organization because the GOP wants your vote. Whereas I want nothing to do with your absurd and disgusting democratic political games. In short, whatever it is you're excited about is meaningless to me.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    @pcosmar

    It seems we're talking past one another. My point was that the SPLC is just some gang of people who have no power and don't matter. They might label Paulites or libertarians as extremists, but this doesn't affect things in the way you think. I'm not presently living in an SPLC camp run by FEMA (nor will I ever be); I'm at home, doing what I'd do if the SPLC didn't exist at all. The real purpose of the SPLC is to get the Democrats all hopped up and bring out their vote, which also gets out their opponents (i.e. you). You have an opinion about this obscure organization because the GOP wants your vote. Whereas I want nothing to do with your absurd and disgusting democratic political games. In short, whatever it is you're excited about is meaningless to me.
    The point is that you're demonstrably wrong, they do have power and they do matter... I don't know why when you're called out you use the excuse that you're talking past each other, that isn't what is happening at all.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    In short, whatever it is you're excited about is meaningless to me.
    Because it has nothing to do with making you King.

    But that does not answer the question asked. Why do you LIE? and then deliberately obfuscate?

    What is the reason for your blatant dishonesty? or are you totally lacking in integrity?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Because it has nothing to do with making you King.
    ..which has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

    But that does not answer the question asked. Why do you LIE? and then deliberately obfuscate?
    You obviously don't know what the word "lie" means.

    I disagree with you about the importance of the SPLC.

    That isn't a "lie."

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I disagree with you about the importance of the SPLC.

    That isn't a "lie."
    That wasn't the quote.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post

    That isn't a "lie."
    And you are a lying sac of excrement.
    Dishonest.. Deliberately.

    I doubt you even possess the ability to be honest. and that is sad really.

    You jumped into this thread to post lies in defense of the SPLC.
    and then say you don't care.

    Purely dishonest. Lying SAC OF EXCREMENT.
    Why are you here? just to derail and clutter the forum?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    That wasn't the quote.
    and not a good answer.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    And you are a lying sac of excrement.
    Dishonest.. Deliberately.

    I doubt you even possess the ability to be honest. and that is sad really.

    You jumped into this thread to post lies in defense of the SPLC.
    and then say you don't care.

    Purely dishonest. Lying SAC OF EXCREMENT.
    Why are you here? just to derail and clutter the forum?
    Alright, I'm just going to ignore you now.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Alright, I'm just going to ignore you now.
    I'll be keeping an eye on you.

    Can't be Trusted.

    and I'm run out of tolerance for obfuscating phucks
    Last edited by pcosmar; 12-29-2017 at 10:11 PM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Alright, I'm just going to ignore you now.
    ROFL
    "The Patriarch"

  28. #54
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    .

    I can type with one hand and hold DELETE with the other, but that would be dumb.
    No,

    That would be an improvement.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  30. #56
    New John Stossel piece exposing the SPLC Southern Poverty Lie Center

    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.



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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    @pcosmar

    It seems we're talking past one another. My point was that the SPLC is just some gang of people who have no power and don't matter. They might label Paulites or libertarians as extremists, but this doesn't affect things in the way you think. I'm not presently living in an SPLC camp run by FEMA (nor will I ever be); I'm at home, doing what I'd do if the SPLC didn't exist at all. The real purpose of the SPLC is to get the Democrats all hopped up and bring out their vote, which also gets out their opponents (i.e. you). You have an opinion about this obscure organization because the GOP wants your vote. Whereas I want nothing to do with your absurd and disgusting democratic political games. In short, whatever it is you're excited about is meaningless to me.
    Not talking past each other..

    I called you a LIAR..
    YOU LIED openly and now try to obfuscate..

    Why do you deliberately LIE. Why do you defend the indefensible?

    Why do you pretend that the SPLC is not affecting policy(in a very bad way)?

    They are connected to Federal Fusion Centers, They Train Police, and FBI. They are a deeply entrenched part of the Police State.


    http://splcexposed.com/
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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  35. #60
    I tried to reTweet this and it said the tweet had been deleted.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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