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    Bathroom bill author unseated by first trans legislator

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.51a85a52c7fb

    Virginia’s most socially conservative state lawmaker was ousted from office Tuesday by Danica Roem, a Democrat who will be one of the nation’s first openly transgender elected officials and who embodies much of what Del. Robert G. Marshall fought against in Richmond.


    The race focused on traffic and other local issues in suburban Prince William County but also exposed the nation’s fault lines over gender identity. It pitted a 33-year-old former journalist who began her physical gender transition four years ago against a 13-term incumbent who called himself Virginia’s “chief homophobe” and earlier this year introduced a “bathroom bill” that died in committee.


    “Discrimination is a disqualifier,” a jubilant Roem said Tuesday night as her margin of victory became clear. “This is about the people of the 13th District disregarding fear tactics, disregarding phobias . . . where we celebrate you because of who you are, not despite it.”


    Marshall, 73, who refused to debate Roem and referred to her with male pronouns, declined an interview request but posted a concession message on Facebook.


    “For 26 years I’ve been proud to fight for you, and fight for our future,” he said. “I’m committed to continue the fight for you, but in a different role going forward.”


    The contest was one of dozens of state legislative races in which Democrats pushed to gain ground in the Republican-majority General Assembly, buoyed by a surge of anti-Trump sentiment among Democrats and independents, and hoping to provide an example for the nation of how to run in opposition to the unpopular Republican president.


    Roem outraised Marshall 3-to-1 with nearly $500,000 in donations, much of it coming from LGBT advocates and other supporters across the country. Her campaign was relentless, knocking on doors more than 75,000 times in a district with 52,471 registered voters. Roem sat for myriad public appearances and interviews and maintained a steady social media presence. Marshall kept his schedule private but also mounted a healthy ground game; his campaign said this week that staffers knocked on voters’ doors about 49,000 times this fall.


    The race took an ugly turn when Marshall and his supporters produced ads disparaging Roem ’s transgender identity.


    But in the end, that tactic failed. Roem led by nearly nine percentage points with all precincts reporting, according to preliminary, unofficial results. Advocates say she will be the first openly transgender person seated in a U.S. state legislature; a transgender candidate was elected in New Hampshire in 2012 but did not take office, and a transgender person served in the Massachusetts legislature in the early 1990s but was not openly transgender while campaigning.


    “It’s kind of like Barack [Obama] winning the presidential election. I’m really proud of Virginia,” said Roem voter John Coughlin, 63, a Realtor in Manassas who said he had never voted for Marshall. “I don’t care about religious issues. I don’t care about items that are big on his agenda. He should be more mainstream.”


    Bob Marshall smiles while voting at Signal Hill Elementary School in Manassas. (Astrid Riecken/For The Washington Post)
    Stephen J. Farnsworth, a political-science professor at the University of Mary Washington in Fredericksburg, said Roem’s victory shows “that cultural wars don’t win elections like they used to.”


    “Virginia has changed so rapidly over the past 20 years. It’s gone from a state where no politician would dare to condemn the Confederacy to a state where a suburban district would elect a transgender candidate,” Farnsworth said. “The Old Dominion gives way to a very different New Dominion.”


    In addition to calling Marshall “a mirror” of Trump, Roem accused him of being more concerned with advancing his conservative causes than dealing with local problems. That message resonated in communities along Route 28 — particularly Manassas Park, an area that has seen an influx of immigrants and millennials. Marshall lost there four years ago.


    “I work in Tysons sometimes in the morning, and it can take up to two hours, and the main reason for that is Route 28,” said Miranda Jehle, 21, a Roem voter who lives in Manassas Park. “That issue definitely resonated here.”


    Nat King, 50, called the congested thoroughfare “the one issue that I know has to be addressed.”


    “That was the primary factor in how I voted,” said King, who lives in the Signal Hill area and cast his ballot for Roem. “Someone has to fix Route 28.”


    Marshall emphasized his record of helping constituents with individual problems.


    But he also countered Roem’s attacks with appeals to his conservative base, helped by last-minute donations from the state Republican Party and conservative groups outside Virginia that have long supported him.


    A cable television ad by Marshall’s campaign questioned Roem’s moral judgment with brief footage from a five-year-old music video she appeared in with her band. A scene from the video, which did not appear fully in the ad, is suggestive of a group of people having oral sex.


    A state Republican Party flier accused Roem of “wanting transgenderism taught to kindergartners” — a reference to a radio interview in which she supported the idea of addressing lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender matters in schools “in an age-appropriate manner.”


    Quentin Kidd, director of the Wason Center for Public Policy at Christopher Newport University, said Marshall may have erred in making too much of Roem’s gender while refusing to participate in public-policy debates.


    “He got put in a box on a cultural war issue, and the irony is that he’s made his living on cultural war issues,” Kidd said.


    But some Marshall voters said they were turned off by Roem’s gender. “She’s never had menstrual cramps, and she’s never had a baby, and she never will be able to,” said Carol Fox, a community activist in the Heritage Hunt section of Prince William, where Roem campaigned repeatedly. “She can take all the estrogen she wants, but she’ll never be a woman.”


    Alexis Dimouro, 53, who voted for Marshall, said she was turned off by negativity on both sides, including attacks on Roem’s gender and Roem’s characterization of Marshall as a conservative zealot out of touch with local issues.


    “Let us do the research and decide,” she said. “All of that seemed like a waste of money.”




    At the Water’s End Brewery in Lake Ridge, a crowd of supporters and news cameras awaited Roem as she drove in for a final stop in what became a victory tour of Prince William County Democratic parties.


    The crowd chanted “Danica! Danica!” She raised her fist and shouted “Sí, se puede!”


    Standing on a table inside the pub, Roem dedicated her win “to every person who’s ever been singled out, who’s ever been stigmatized, who’s ever been the misfit, who’s ever been the kid in the corner, who’s ever needed someone to stand up for them when they didn’t have a voice of their own. This one is for you.”


    She then reiterated her promises of alleviating traffic congestion on Route 28.


    “That’s why I got in this race,” Roem said. “Because I’m fed up with the frickin’ road over in my home town.”
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.



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    BTW this is just up the road from me. I can't say I'm sorry to see Marshall go. He was usually solid on pro-gun issues, but really was a conservative dinosaur.
    Nothing he ever did was founded on a devotion to liberty. He is a more obvious version of Ken Cuccinelli - champing at the bit to use the state to punish people he doesn't like.

    I think it's telling that Roem won largely by sticking to a fundamental issue that affects everyone in the district, which has been largely ignored. It's almost like people in the area think that this is what they are supposed to be paying attention to.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    I think it's telling that Roem won largely by sticking to a fundamental issue that affects everyone in the district, which has been largely ignored. It's almost like people in the area think that this is what they are supposed to be paying attention to.
    Yeah, it sounds like despite the mudslinging in the end it was an issues-based race. I'm sure a lot of people turned up their nose and voted for hehimr.... because the old Republican was out of touch with what the electorate perceived as their primary need.

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    And she sings too...

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    Eww Virginia. What happened to you.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
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    Roem outraised Marshall 3-to-1 with nearly $500,000 in donations, much of it coming from LGBT advocates and other supporters across the country.
    Oh.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




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    Well Good for that individual, I was surprised to read that. I wouldn't expect that there, or any time soon.

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    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post

    I think it's telling that Roem won largely by sticking to a fundamental issue that affects everyone in the district, which has been largely ignored. It's almost like people in the area think that this is what they are supposed to be paying attention to.
    Muh roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And "she" sings too...

    FIFY

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    Okay, this concerns a transgender politician. Big deal.

    What are her policy positions ? Glanced over the article but didn't really find any of them.
    "I am a bird"

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Oh.
    It has always struck me as odd that the group that we are supposed to believe is "oppressed" always massively outfunds their "oppressors."
    Stop believing stupid things

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Okay, this concerns a transgender politician. Big deal.

    What are her policy positions ? Glanced over the article but didn't really find any of them.
    I'm going to guess there is a hefty dose of virtue signaling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Okay, this concerns a transgender politician. Big deal.

    What are her policy positions ? Glanced over the article but didn't really find any of them.
    She ran a one issue local campaign on improving roads to try to eliminate traffic jams.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    FIFY
    And I figured the obvious correction was to quote "sings"...
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Okay, this concerns a transgender politician. Big deal.

    What are her policy positions ? Glanced over the article but didn't really find any of them.
    More government.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    She ran a one issue local campaign on improving roads to try to eliminate traffic jams.
    More than that on the site. http://danicaroem.ngpvanhost.com/tra...hools-equality
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
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    So sad to see a MAN get himself mutilated.

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    Congrats to Mr. Roem. May he resign in disgrace for being a socialist that insists that others share his delusional state.
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    In Washington you can see them everywhere: the Parasites and baby Stalins sucking the life out of a once-great nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    More government.
    Count on it.

    Wonder how many people are going to lose their homes and property as the state seizes it to "improve" the road?

    The only freedom that is popular in AmeriKa is the freedom to be a freak.

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    "Vote for me and I'll do something about the horrible traffic!"
    lol. The only thing that will help nova traffic is shrinking the federal government.
    All the gov't workers will move out of the area in search of real work, thus leaving the roads far less congested.
    It's a win-win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    She ran a one issue local campaign on improving roads to try to eliminate traffic jams.
    Which will morph into an agenda to remove cars from the roads instead of improving/expanding roads, per agenda 21. I lived in the DC area most of my life and one thing you'll never eliminate is traffic jams without eliminating cars (or as PursuePeace said, shrinking the feds bigly). It's just too sprawling of an area. I had to commute nearly an hour and a half each way before I moved out of the swamp.
    Last edited by devil21; 11-08-2017 at 08:57 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And she sings too...

    lol

    they spend more time practicing how to swish their hair than learning to play their instruments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    More government.

    More than that on the site. http://danicaroem.ngpvanhost.com/tra...hools-equality
    Yep. A government solution to everything. Typical Big Brother/Big Mother socialists.

    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Which will morph into an agenda to remove cars from the roads instead of improving/expanding roads, per agenda 21. I lived in the DC area most of my life and one thing you'll never eliminate is traffic jams without eliminating cars (or as PersuePeace said, shrinking the feds bigly). It's just too sprawling of an area. I had to commute nearly an hour and a half each way before I moved out of the swamp.
    They love the pyramid schemes. The irony is that they want more jobs and more businesses, and that will provide tax revenue to improve the roads (good luck on smart planning and smart government spending). Their problem is that they already have jobs which creates traffic, but the roads were never improved. Now they want to increase traffic with even more jobs, and then later they can improve the roads. LOL. And of course they want more immigration too.

    They all hate traffic, and every single thing they propose will make traffic worse. Group stupidity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And she sings too...

    Couldn't hear anything apart from the noise in the room.



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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Eww Virginia. What happened to you.
    Always been that way .

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    Quote Originally Posted by PursuePeace View Post
    "Vote for me and I'll do something about the horrible traffic!"
    lol. The only thing that will help nova traffic is shrinking the federal government.
    All the gov't workers will move out of the area in search of real work, thus leaving the roads far less congested.
    It's a win-win.
    Don't forget that housing prices will also return to sanity.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    I think it's amusing that more people don't appreciate that stories like this (i.e. culture war fluff) are intentional distractions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I think it's amusing that more people don't appreciate that stories like this (i.e. culture war fluff) are intentional distractions.
    I guess it just depends on your sense of humor, if I am understanding correctly you have a dark sense of humor because you are laughing at the fact that people are too stupid to understand they are licking the boot stomping on their face because the establishment said there was chocolate on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I guess it just depends on your sense of humor, if I am understanding correctly you have a dark sense of humor because you are laughing at the fact that people are too stupid to understand they are licking the boot stomping on their face because the establishment said there was chocolate on it.
    More or less

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I think it's amusing that more people don't appreciate that stories like this (i.e. culture war fluff) are intentional distractions.
    Except that this culture warrior will be advancing the socialist agenda on every level as a lawmaker.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
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