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    Default Trump Blames Gillespie For Virginia Defeat: "He Did Not Embrace What I Stand For"

    President Trump wasted not time apportioning any blame squarely on the shoulders of establishment Republican Ed Gillespie for his loss...
    Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for. Don’t forget, Republicans won 4 out of 4 House seats, and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win, even bigger than before!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 8, 2017
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    Update (8:10pm EST): MSNBC has called Virginia's Gubernatorial Race for Democrat Ralph Northam

    For now the spread is narrower than the 5.4pt spread Hillary won over Trump...



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    It is a Dem state what did people expect ?

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    Also , house seats are entirely different . The Pubs will have the house for years to come specifically because of obummercare .

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    "Not my fault". Trump also did robocalls for Gillespie. The "four out of four" (which was actually four out of five) were in solid Republican districts. Those races were not in question.







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    I'm not thrilled about it because I hate the left. But pragmatically the Democrats are at historically low levels. As much as I want them to die slow painful deaths starving in the streets with no free food and no free medical care, common sense says at some point they're going to regain at least some of the ground they've lost.

    History says they're going to win back some House seats too. Especially since the GOP is too pathetic to repeal Obamacare.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    I'm not thrilled about it because I hate the left. But pragmatically the Democrats are at historically low levels. As much as I want them to die slow painful deaths starving in the streets with no free food and no free medical care, common sense says at some point they're going to regain at least some of the ground they've lost.
    wat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    wat
    Well they have essentially enslaved everybody, pretty sure if somebody said something about slave owners in the south starving in the streets nobody would care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    I'm not thrilled about it because I hate the left. But pragmatically the Democrats are at historically low levels. As much as I want them to die slow painful deaths starving in the streets with no free food and no free medical care, common sense says at some point they're going to regain at least some of the ground they've lost.

    History says they're going to win back some House seats too. Especially since the GOP is too pathetic to repeal Obamacare.
    The worst aspect of the left is that they have permanently allied with the plutocrats. Even Bannon was trying to talk sense to these morons, but they have no principles.

    https://theintercept.com/2017/11/01/...di-weingarten/

    Hearing Bannon attack elites, including the types of hedge fund Democrats who fund the charter school movement, in the same way she would, was surreal. “He hates crony capitalism,” Weingarten said. “The same kinds of things [we say], you could hear out of his mouth, and that’s why it’s so — you sit there in a surreal way, saying, ‘How can you sit right next to all these elites?’”
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Well they have essentially enslaved everybody, pretty sure if somebody said something about slave owners in the south starving in the streets nobody would care.
    I don't think any one party is guilty of this "enslavement" that you mention. Both parties have contributed greatly to the expansion of government, Rs almost as much as Ds
    I just found it particularly ironic that someone who said "conspiracy theorists are detrimental to the liberty movement" also thinks that openly mentioning that she would enjoy seeing her political opponents starve to death en masse is totally fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hells_unicorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    I don't think any one party is guilty of this "enslavement" that you mention. Both parties have contributed greatly to the expansion of government, Rs almost as much as Ds
    You are confusing Rs (politicians) with Rs (voters). Not that Rs (voters) are perfect, but the platform that Rs (voters) vote for is often much better than the actions that Rs (politicians) end up carrying out. Taxes are an obvious example where Republicans really screw up and are not in sync with their base, but even Bush Jr. ran on no nation building and a humble foreign policy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    I just found it particularly ironic that someone who said "conspiracy theorists are detrimental to the liberty movement" also thinks that openly mentioning that she would enjoy seeing her political opponents starve to death en masse is totally fine.
    I Angie but sometimes she is a little cray cray.
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    You are confusing Rs (politicians) with Rs (voters). Not that Rs (voters) are perfect, but the platform that Rs (voters) vote for is often much better than the actions that Rs (politicians) end up carrying out. Taxes are an obvious example where Republicans really screw up and are not in sync with their base, but even Bush Jr. ran on no nation building and a humble foreign policy.
    I was being generous with interpreting her comment as only referring to D politicians. If she actually meant the tens of millions of D voters, that's a whole new level of sociopathy that really shouldn't be tolerated on these forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    I don't think any one party is guilty of this "enslavement" that you mention. Both parties have contributed greatly to the expansion of government, Rs almost as much as Ds
    I just found it particularly ironic that someone who said "conspiracy theorists are detrimental to the liberty movement" also thinks that openly mentioning that she would enjoy seeing her political opponents starve to death en masse is totally fine.
    Well , I am not feeding any democrats .

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    Gillespie just wasn't a very good candidate. Virginia Republicans are rather half-hearted, in general. After the truck ad, Democrats should have run away from the party, and they didn't. Why? Because the Virginia Republicans are just like Tennessee Republicans. They are establishment right down to the ground and they had already given up the governorship.
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    As I said before, vanilla Gillepsie didn't excite anyone.

    https://www.vox.com/mischiefs-of-fac...-show-virginia

    To analyze this, I looked at how well each candidate held on to their presidential votes from 2016. For example, in Alexandria, 13,285 people voted for Donald Trump last year, while 10,807 voted for Republican gubernatorial candidate Ed Gillespie this year. This drop-off isn’t surprising; it’s rare that a state election will produce the same turnout that a presidential one will. But it’s interesting to examine where Democrats and Republicans retained more of their presidential votes.
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    Bannon spoke to the GOP in Michigan last night, and said he had been the only person on the cabinet that wanted us out of the foreign wars. So I wish he was in that picture.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]






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