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    John Bolton hints at military draft

    Bolton was on Fox News over the weekend, I forget where, and hinted at a return of the draft so people would have sense of unity, and of course he used the usual Israeli excuse; even made sure to mention that men and women are drafted in Israel. Trial balloon? or just a nut case? he was considered of State sec.


    combine that with mentions of a ground war to take over North Korea. and that estimates are almost always understated. and the possible additional war in Iran.



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    The unity opinion is that Bolton is a nutcase, IMO.
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    Unity of who? Three quarters of those under the age of 25 are 4F.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XNavyNuke View Post
    Unity of who? Three quarters of those under the age of 25 are 4F.

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    lol

    Bolton may just be the dumbest piece of $#@! shill for Israel in the MSM. He never misses an opportunity to praise Israel.

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    I heard a speech on the benefits of a one year military support draft.
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    ... he's a fairly dangerous man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    "A Military draft is logical, Moral, and even Libertarian"
    Gotta say, I love this! lol!

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    It works a little differently if you say that at age 18 all Americans must report for mandatory training to become part of the Constitutional militia. The last thing we needs is a whole generation of people who are afraid of guns and do not know how to use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    It works a little differently if you say that at age 18 all Americans must report for mandatory training to become part of the Constitutional militia. The last thing we needs is a whole generation of people who are afraid of guns and do not know how to use them.
    The "Constitutional" militia were locals who were to protect their community, especially from bad government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Gotta say, I love this! lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    covered. Had a tuna melt for lunch. It was pretty libertarian.
    I am having the libertarian crab salad with swiss cheese on french bread , the real $#@! , no imitation crab meat . Once I have my anarchy all these fatties will be in militia .

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    He's a disgusting piece of crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XNavyNuke View Post
    Unity of who? Three quarters of those under the age of 25 are 4F.

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    Yeah , they are pretty much already getting most of those that would be of any use to them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    The "Constitutional" militia were locals who were to protect their community, especially from bad government.
    I'm aware of that. Just flipping the context and pointing out what will happen if we allow the anti-gun indoctrination to continue.

    Wow, for someone who claims to be the most brilliant man on the forums, I'm a little surprised you missed that bit of irony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    Bolton was on Fox News over the weekend, I forget where, and hinted at a return of the draft so people would have sense of unity, and of course he used the usual Israeli excuse; even made sure to mention that men and women are drafted in Israel. Trial balloon? or just a nut case? he was considered of State sec.
    It might work in a country/society with a preexisting sense of unity/focus/purpose such as Israel (homeland for the jews). But to try to push it ontop of a very much divided society as a reason to force unity? Yeah, that sounds like an idea bound to fail. It will only cause more resentment and division. This guy is stupid, unless causing an actual upheaval/revolution is what his real intent is.



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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    It might work in a country/society with a preexisting sense of unity/focus/purpose such as Israel (homeland for the jews). But to try to push it ontop of a very much divided society as a reason to force unity? Yeah, that sounds like an idea bound to fail. It will only cause more resentment and division. This guy is stupid, unless causing an actual upheaval/revolution is what his real intent is.
    Super Chess .

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    The thing is, liberty does not happen in a vacuum. It always has a context. And consequences. We have allowed gunaphobia to rule. How's that working for us? Our elected reps pass laws prohibiting concealed carry in churches, so where are the targets? Churches. There was another shooting yesterday outside of a church in Fresno, California. Nobody is mentioning that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    It works a little differently if you say that at age 18 all Americans must report for mandatory training to become part of the Constitutional militia. The last thing we needs is a whole generation of people who are afraid of guns and do not know how to use them.
    They should learn how to use guns. But now they've made girls eligible for the draft. Considering 33% of women in the military have been raped or suffered attempted rape and 84% have been sexually assaulted or harassed I think I'd say the very last thing we need is a draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    It might work in a country/society with a preexisting sense of unity/focus/purpose such as Israel (homeland for the jews). But to try to push it ontop of a very much divided society as a reason to force unity? Yeah, that sounds like an idea bound to fail. It will only cause more resentment and division. This guy is stupid, unless causing an actual upheaval/revolution is what his real intent is.
    Then again, if after 30 years a quiet cabal of libertarians got their hands on the weapons of war, while liberals and conservatives are killing each other to no end, there wouldn't be a whole lot of federal opposition left against states' rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    They should learn how to use guns. But now they've made girls eligible for the draft. Considering 33% of women in the military have been raped or suffered attempted rape and 84% have been sexually assaulted or harassed I think I'd say the very last thing we need is a draft.
    I'm not suggesting a draft. Many of my classmates had to register and some had draft numbers. Don't want to go down that path. However, we can't ignore what is happening today. Gunaphobia rules the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    Trial balloon? or just a nut case?
    Both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    The "Constitutional" militia were locals who were to protect their community, especially from bad government.
    And that seems to be what euphemia is in favor of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I'm aware of that. Just flipping the context and pointing out what will happen if we allow the anti-gun indoctrination to continue.

    Wow, for someone who claims to be the most brilliant man on the forums, I'm a little surprised you missed that bit of irony.
    Never claimed to be the most brilliant- and was just detailing your remark, as most do not realize what the "militia" initially meant in the 2nd Amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    lol

    Bolton may just be the dumbest piece of $#@! shill for Israel in the MSM. He never misses an opportunity to praise Israel.
    The Dems want National servitude, even Hillary admitted that in her book; and the Republican establishment want perpetual war. Israel is always the excuse, but would Israel be so aggressive towards the Palestinians if Israel had a volunteer army. The Dems want an excuse for free college, and to weaken white males. other than Ron/Rand and maybe Kucinich there are few who really want to cut the military.

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    John Bolton, Wimp



    A Vietnam hawk who remained stateside.

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    That mustache robs him of all credibility.

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    "I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy," Bolton wrote of his decision in the 25th reunion book. "I considered the war in Vietnam already lost."

    What a pussy. He has no qualm suggesting others die for lost causes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    "I confess I had no desire to die in a Southeast Asian rice paddy," Bolton wrote of his decision in the 25th reunion book. "I considered the war in Vietnam already lost."

    What a pussy. He has no qualm suggesting others die for lost causes.
    Personally while wading in $#@! in the jungle kind of sucks it is no worse than the desert where you can stand in one place , do nothing and still see the sweat come through your leather boots .

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