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    Shooter taken down after several shot at church in Sutherland Springs


    http://www.wfaa.com/news/witnesses-s...ings/489260703

    SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, TX - The Wilson County News is reporting that the man who allegedly walked into a Sutherland Springs church Sunday morning and shot several people has been taken down by police.

    Sheriff Joe Tackitt confirmed with the Wilson County News that there have been 'multiple casualties and fatalities'.

    A witness at the scene reported a 2-year-old was also shot.

    KENS 5 has a crew in route to the scene.

    This is a developing story, check back for updates.



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    Up to 27+ deceased apparently.

    Horrible, just horrible.
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    What I really want to know, was it a Muslim, or a Mexican?
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    On the other hand, all of the "dead" might just be crisis actors.

    Like Vegas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    A lot of guesswork going on in journalism-land.

    Deadline
    Multiple Shooting Victims At Texas Baptist Church – Up To 24 May Be Dead

    KSHB
    Gunman wounds 'at least 12' during Sunday church service in Texas, shooter dead

    Daily Mail
    BREAKING: 'At least 27 people killed' at a Texas church and multiple people injured - including a two-year-old child ...

    Daily Beast
    At Least 20 Killed in Shooting at Texas Church, Officials Say

    TMZ.com
    Texas Church Mass Shooting At Least 15 Shot, Multiple Deaths Gunman Reportedly Dead
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    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    A lot of guesswork going on in journalism-land.

    Deadline
    Multiple Shooting Victims At Texas Baptist Church – Up To 24 May Be Dead

    KSHB
    Gunman wounds 'at least 12' during Sunday church service in Texas, shooter dead

    Daily Mail
    BREAKING: 'At least 27 people killed' at a Texas church and multiple people injured - including a two-year-old child ...

    Daily Beast
    At Least 20 Killed in Shooting at Texas Church, Officials Say

    TMZ.com
    Texas Church Mass Shooting At Least 15 Shot, Multiple Deaths Gunman Reportedly Dead
    Have you heard anything yet, on whether the Officers are OK?
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    This story will be dead and buried by tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    This story will be dead and buried by tomorrow.
    I dunno about that, there may have been some pretty white women in that church.

    Then again, this is San Antonio.
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    Sick $#@!s, 27 people dead and making jokes about it.

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    This report is saying 20-25 dead and 20 injured - they also said this service usually only has 50 in attendance. I also read another report that said the Pastor's daughter was killed. No word on her age.




    Edited to add...from e_d's link below

    Just heartbreaking.

    First Baptist Church Pastor Frank Pomeroy told ABC that his 14-year-old daughter is among the dead.
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4xb0nmKXL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    Early reports can be inaccurate, with that in mind:






    Kelley, (pictured in his yearbook photo, left and recently, right) 26, of New Braunfels

    Devin Patrick Kelley ID’d as Sutherland Springs Church Killer
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/devin-...-church-killer




    Devin Kelley

    Kelley received a diploma from New Braunfels High School​. [2]​ He is a veteran of the US Air Force​ where he worked with logistics and supply [2]​.

    In 2013, he briefly volunteered as a teacher's at Kingsville FBC, teaching 4-6 year old children about the Bible​. [2]

    Sutherland Springs Mass Shooting

    On November 5, 2017, at around 11:30 a.m. local time, Kelley allegedly walked into the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, TX and opened fire killing at least 25 people. [3][5][7]

    Kelley apparently died following a short police pursuit. It was not immediately clear whether he was killed by officers or if his wounds were self-inflicted. [3][7]
    https://everipedia.org/wiki/devin-kelley-1/






    From Drudge:









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    Damm I could have stopped this if I had just thought to search texas school shooting a day or so early. Wonder when the go fund me page went up ?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=texa...F4%2F2017&tbm=


    Texas church shooting: Live updates - CNN
    edition.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/texas-church-shooting-latest/index.html
    Nov 4, 2017 - At least 20 people were killed in a shooting at First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas. Follow here for live updates.

    Mass shooting reported at Texas church | USA News | Al Jazeera
    http://www.aljazeera.com/.../gunman-...h-171105195212...
    Nov 4, 2017 - Multiple people have been killed inside a church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, local media say. The shooting took place on Sunday at the First Baptist Church in ...

    Multiple people dead in Texas church shooting | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
    http://www.post-gazette.com/news/nat....../2017110501...
    Nov 3, 2017 - SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, Texas — A man opened fire inside of a church in a small South Texas community on Sunday, killing multiple people and wounding ...

    Gunman opens fire in Texas church, killing multiple people | The ...
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    Nov 2, 2017 - Authorities say man opened fire inside of a church in a small South Texas ... Church in Sutherland Springs and began shooting, killing multiple people and ...

    Multiple dead, wounded in Texas church shooting
    http://www.newsherald.com/news/.../m...hurch-shooting
    Nov 4, 2017 - AP updates on the Texas church shooting that has allegedly left 20 dead and 20 wounded.

    The Latest: ATF sends agents to Texas church after shooting | Miami ...
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    Nov 3, 2017 - The Latest on a shooting at a church in Texas (all times local):. 2:25 p.m.. A spokeswoman say the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives ...

    Reports: Multiple victims in Texas church shooting
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    Nov 3, 2017 - SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, Texas — Local news outlets report that several people have been shot at a Baptist Church in South Texas.Television stations KSAT ...

    11alive.com | Multiple Deaths in Texas Church Shooting
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    Reports: Multiple victims in Texas church shooting - The Repository
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    Nov 3, 2017 - SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, Texas — Local news outlets report that several people have been shot at a Baptist Church in South Texas.Television stations KSAT ...

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    Texas Church Shooting - K2 Radio
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    Nov 4, 2017 - texas church shooting. Texas Church Shooting Leaves Multiple People Dead. Wilson County Sheriff Joe Tackitt said the shooter has been taken down.

    Reports: Multiple victims in Texas church shooting - The Daily News
    http://www.jdnews.com/zz/news/.../re...hurch-shooting
    Nov 4, 2017 - SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, Texas — Local news outlets report that several people have been shot at a Baptist Church in South Texas.Television stations KSAT ...

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    http://www.gainesville.com/zz/news/....hurch-shooting
    Nov 3, 2017 - SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, Texas — Local news outlets report that several people have been shot at a Baptist Church in South Texas.Television stations KSAT ...

    Reports: Multiple victims in Texas church shooting - Cape Cod Times
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    Nov 3, 2017 - SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, Texas — Local news outlets report that several people have been shot at a Baptist Church in South Texas.Television stations KSAT ...

    Latest on Texas church shooting: Reports of more than 20 dead, yet ...
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    Nov 3, 2017 - Local news outlets report that several people have been shot at a Baptist Church in South Texas and the gunman is dead.

    Reports: Multiple victims in Texas church shooting - telegram.com
    http://www.telegram.com/zz/news/.../...hurch-shooting
    Nov 4, 2017 - SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, Texas — Local news outlets report that several people have been shot at a Baptist Church in South Texas.Television stations KSAT ...

    Reports: Multiple victims in Texas church shooting - The Daily Record
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    Nov 3, 2017 - SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, Texas — Local news outlets report that several people have been shot at a Baptist Church in South Texas.Television stations KSAT ...

    Reports: Multiple victims in Texas church shooting - recordonline.com
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    Nov 4, 2017 - SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, Texas — Local news outlets report that several people have been shot at a Baptist Church in South Texas.Television stations KSAT ...

    Multiple deaths in shooting at Texas church; suspect 'down'
    http://www.dispatch.com/news/.../mul...h-suspect-down
    Nov 3, 2017 - Law enforcement officials stand next to a covered body at the scene of a shooting Sunday at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas.

    Sheriff: Multiple Deaths In Shooting At Texas Church « CBS Dallas ...
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    Nov 1, 2017 - Sheriff: Multiple Deaths In Shooting At Texas ChurchWilson County Sheriff Joe Tackitt said there were multiple casualties and fatalities in the church shooting.
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    Several hours and nothing on the shooter....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    What I really want to know, was it a Muslim, or a Mexican?

    Could be both.
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    Horrible. If 50 people about are in that service and 20-25 are dead... insane..

    I can't believe they haven't id'd the dude at least at this point.

    So glad my church always has at least 3 (usually 5)guns who stay for both services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Sick $#@!s, 27 people dead and making jokes about it.
    + rep to kahless, WTF is wrong with you guys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    + rep to kahless, WTF is wrong with you guys?
    ditto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    + rep to kahless, WTF is wrong with you guys?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asurfaholic View Post
    Horrible. If 50 people about are in that service and 20-25 are dead... insane..

    I can't believe they haven't id'd the dude at least at this point.

    So glad my church always has at least 3 (usually 5)guns who stay for both services.
    If it keeps up it will fuel conspiracy theories. Because of the way they handled Vegas I still wonder whether Paddock was really the killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    If it keeps up it will fuel conspiracy theories. Because of the way they handled Vegas I still wonder whether Paddock was really the killer.
    Makes me wonder, if this was the same shooter from Vegas.
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    There are more important things than semantics but if this isn't terrorism what is?
    UPDATE: Church shooting is not terrorism-related & shooter was not from the Sutherland Springs area: TX congressman
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    Texas, First Baptist, no guns? The guy makes it out of there without getting shot, apparently. The story just doesn't sound right. Seems odd.
    The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

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    Wiped out an entire circle of friends.
    SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, Texas --
    The pastor of the church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, where dozens were killed and dozens more injured when a man walked into the building and opened fire, said his 14-year-old daughter is among the dead.

    First Baptist Church Pastor Frank Pomeroy said he was not at the church Sunday morning when the shooting took place. His youngest daughter, Annabelle, was.

    Pomeroy said he was in Oklahoma at the time. The pastor was driving back to Sutherland Springs when he spoke to ABC News.

    According to Pomeroy, every one of his family's close friends is among the deceased.

    Pomeroy said he wants the world to know that his daughter Annabelle was "one very beautiful special child."
    http://abc7.com/pastors-14-year-old-...oting/2607277/
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    Did not take long for the Democrats.

    "Enough is enough. Now is the time for commonsense gun violence prevention steps. Congressional complicity must end." - Richard Blumenthal

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Did not take long for the Democrats.

    "Enough is enough. Now is the time for commonsense gun violence prevention steps. Congressional complicity must end." - Richard Blumenthal
    Yeah I agree.
    They need to make it easier for law abiding people to carry a firearm inside of a church building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Makes me wonder, if this was the same shooter from Vegas.
    It was a Texan.

    The gunman is dead

    Sources told KSAT 12's Erica Hernandez the gunman killed himself after leading authorities on a short chase.
    The gunman was from the San Antonio area

    Officials told ABC News the gunman was a white man in his 20s who was from "outside San Antonio." No other identifying information was given.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    It was a Texan.

    The gunman is dead

    Sources told KSAT 12's Erica Hernandez the gunman killed himself after leading authorities on a short chase.
    The gunman was from the San Antonio area

    Officials told ABC News the gunman was a white man in his 20s who was from "outside San Antonio." No other identifying information was given.
    You expect me to believe that?

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