No. You simply need to prosecute it under the appropriate charge once it has occurred. No need for expansion.Originally Posted by Zippyjuan
Attempted murder on a politician for their political views is terrorism.
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What are the advantages to calling it "terrorism" vs a felony assault?
When was the last time they ended up with a 4th degree misdemeanor felony charge?
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Tougher sentencing?
Attempted murder can already bring a life sentence. In the Gabby Giffords shooting, Jared Loughner got seven life terms without any charges of terrorism. http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov...rison-20121108
Actually seven life terms plus 140 years.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-12-2017 at 05:52 PM.
You didn't say "attempted murder." You said, "felony assault."
The left wants to justify the violence as necessary as a means to achieve their goal.Political terrorism involves an overall, overarching moral philosophy that is used to justify acts of terrorism
The sentence states depending on the severity. (It can be up to 25 years in some)
As for Rand: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ran...ederal-n819556
Does calling it "terrorism" reduce the likelyhood of somebody committing a crime?If prosecuted and convicted by both federal and state authorities, Boucher could face two different maximum sentences of ten years
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 11-12-2017 at 06:02 PM.
Obviously the guy didn't do it because he plead not guilty amiright zippy?
The worst Boucher could be charged with is assault in the second under KY law. 5-10 yrs.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ran...ederal-n819556
Paul’s newly-reported, more serious injuries could lead the state prosecutors to charge Boucher instead with the more-serious felony assault. The difference is punishment is massive. The misdemeanor assault carries a maximum term of a year of confinement, while a felony assault conviction carries a minimum of five and a maximum of ten years.
Could Boucher be charged with a federal crime? Ordinarily, an assault on an ordinary citizen does not involve federal law. But Paul is a U.S. senator, and federal law criminalizes assaults on members of Congress. Lesser assaults, like throwing a punch without landing the blow, or a slap that doesn’t injure, are punishable by one year of imprisonment and a fine.
Assaults that result in any personal injury are punishable by up to ten years of imprisonment.
There is no constitutional barrier to a federal assault prosecution of Boucher just because he’s being prosecuted in state court. This is because prosecutions by different sovereigns (the state and federal government) do not implicate the double jeopardy clause. But, a Department of Justice policy called the “Petite Policy” generally prohibits federal prosecution of a defendant following a state prosecution for the same act unless U.S. attorneys believe a federal crime was committed, and there is a substantial federal interest that the state prosecution failed to vindicate.
Federal prosecutors could easily conclude that a state prosecution for assault does not vindicate the different federal interest of protecting senators, and deterring attacks on public servants.
If prosecuted and convicted by both federal and state authorities, Boucher could face two different maximum sentences of ten years.
I agree there could be abuse here, but the chance of there being abuse if there is no justice is too high. Right now we are seeing people get attacked for their beliefs, not only senators but even Dan Savage got attacked, they even attacked his poodle. We should always investigate fully crimes, but politicians getting attacked for what they are saying isn't something we should cheer even if we don't like the politician. We don't need a world where politicians are afraid of being JFK'd.
Why are you repeating exactly what I just told you?
Clearly a hate crime in any case, so that would be a harsher sentence. Protected groups might not like that, but there you go.
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It could be double what you said.
Go read post #521 and #522. It's only a coupla posts back. WTF? are you talking about? I said 5-10 years. You posted an article stating 5-10 years. You're smoking some strange $#@! tonight.
Read the last line.
If prosecuted and convicted by both federal and state authorities, Boucher could face two different maximum sentences of ten years.
And you edited your original post to make it appear that you were referring to a state + Fed charge when your original post referred to nothing of the sort. I was replying to your original post, as quoted in full in my response. Christ, I'm done with you for tonight.
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In my original post I did mistakenly say that the sentence could be life for felony assault in some states.And you edited your original post to make it appear that you were referring to a state + Fed charge when your original post referred to nothing of the sort. I was replying to your original post, as quoted in full in my response. Christ, I'm done with you for tonight.
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Politically motivated violence is the textbook definition of terrorism. A "mere dispute between neighbors" seems to be an example of liberal propaganda.
I am really here to make an ass of myself and not really to sway the undecided.
Liberal racism crops up again: Mexicans are supposed to mow grass. (and blacks are supposed to pick cotton?)
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Federal Law is fairly clear... assaulting a member of congress is a federal misdemeanor. Assaulting a member of Congress causing injury is a federal felony with serious prison time! Title 18
If and when the FBI gets around to recommending charges, which no doubt will be coming, the 'perp' cannot avoid a federal felony! The news is of course blinding the public, and like big government, pursuant to the changed law with the passage of the last spy act renewal December 2016, which repealed the crime of government lying to the public, they feel emboldened to high heaven now! Since last December's renewal of that Act I do not trust any news for public consumption emanating from government!
And have been successful in that.
Meanwhile, we sit twiddling our dicks.
So, did she demand that the Press-Herald withdraw the piece and and caricature?
https://twitter.com/vpostrel/status/929840348700037120
The title of the original is different. The text is mostly the same, except the people who republished (@PressHerald) left out a self-quoted paragraph about standards and style. Here it is:
https://twitter.com/vpostrel/status/929840753391517697
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
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