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    Senator Rand Paul hospitalized in fight over yard waste
    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/sen...er-yard-waste/
    Neighbors say the pair were quarreling over leaves and grass clippings.

    Pieces of grass and dead leaves may have led to the senator being hospitalized. Many had been speculating about what may have led to the fight, which left Paul in the hospital Monday recovering from the fractures and a bruised lung—but no one thought it could possibly be over foliage.
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    The New York Times reported the fighting centered on a strip of land between their homes.
    Last edited by kahless; 11-06-2017 at 11:34 PM.



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    Rand's neighbor of 17 years ambushed the good Senator while mowing his lawn and beat the stuffing out of him, cracking 5 ribs, knocking out 3 teeth, and possibly breaking his jaw.

    More at: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...-paul-attacked

    From the comments:





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    From the comments at Naked Capitalism, this morning:
    "I had a colleague die of this, well after the breaking. He contracted pneumonia and was unable to cough to clear his lungs. Senator Paul might benefit from admission to an intensive care unit, under the care of a thoracic surgeon, and a team of respiratory therapists, and treated with an epidural block. It seems his assailant used his training as an anesthesiologist, and an osteopath, to attempt murder."
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Senator Rand Paul hospitalized in fight over yard waste
    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/sen...er-yard-waste/
    yard waste = politics
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    Mr. Paul, 54, has long stood out in the well-to-do gated neighborhood south of Bowling Green, Ky., that he calls home. The senator grows pumpkins on his property, composts and has shown little interest for neighborhood regulations.


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    Mr. Porter, who says he spoke with Mr. Paul on Saturday after the incident, said the senator told him he and Mr. Boucher had not talked in years. Mr. Porter said he was not familiar with any landscaping disputes between the two neighbors.
    “He is still unsure why he was attacked,” Mr. Porter said. “I don’t know if he knows why he was attacked.”

    Three Kentucky Republicans, who requested anonymity to discuss the case, said Mr. Paul had been embarrassed by the incident and was not interested in drawing attention to it.

    More at: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/u...wyer-says.html
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    Yeah, bull$#@!.

    This was a political "hate crime", not a scuffle over leaves.

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    How long before "going liberal" replaces "going postal"?
    “[T]he enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table.” (Heller, 554 U.S., at ___, 128 S.Ct., at 2822.)

    How long before "going liberal" replaces "going postal"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    So, short of uncivilized revenge violence?, what would you say is the remedy to having 5 of your ribs broken?
    'Uncivilized' revenge is certainly preferable to using the "Just-Us" system...

    But I doubt Rand is going to beat his ass..... Next best scenario is to let the guy sell and move after covering all expenses and compensation for the trauma...

    There's no need for kangaroo kourts and klown kops...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    'Uncivilized' revenge is certainly preferable to using the "Just-Us" system...

    But I doubt Rand is going to beat his ass..... Next best scenario is to let the guy sell and move after covering all expenses and compensation for the trauma...

    There's no need for kangaroo kourts and klown kops...
    Turn a "good lawyer" ( I know oxymoron) loose on him right now and and sit back and heal up. The next few years will be worse than anything he has ever experienced.
    “[T]he enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table.” (Heller, 554 U.S., at ___, 128 S.Ct., at 2822.)

    How long before "going liberal" replaces "going postal"?

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    The two men were anything but strangers. Mr. Paul and Mr. Boucher have lived next to each other for 17 years, and at one point even worked at the same hospital. Mr. Boucher practiced for many years as an anesthesiologist and invented a rice-filled vest used for back pain. He now lives alone, neighbors said.
    Perhaps this will stop some of the nastier speculation going on.
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    Matthew J. Baker, a lawyer for Mr. Boucher, called the matter “a very regrettable dispute” between neighbors over a “trivial” matter.

    The incident “has absolutely nothing to do with either’s politics or political agendas,” Mr. Baker said in a statement on Monday. “It was a very regrettable dispute between two neighbors over a matter that most people would regard as trivial.”

    “We sincerely hope that Senator Paul is doing well and that these two gentlemen can get back to being neighbors as quickly as possible,” Mr. Baker said.
    SMH, yeah sounds cozy and nice bet Rand would sleep well.

    In Kentucky and in Washington, Mr. Baker’s comment about the “trivial” nature of the dispute prompted speculation about what had gone down, and how long Mr. Paul would remain at home.

    Neighbors said it was well known that the men had strongly divergent political views — Mr. Paul is a libertarian who identifies as a Republican; Mr. Boucher is a registered Democrat. But they said the dispute had more to do with long-simmering tensions over their adjacent properties than politics.

    “They just couldn’t get along. I think it had very little to do with Democrat or Republican politics,” said Jim Skaggs, who developed the gated community and who lives nearby. “I think it was a neighbor-to-neighbor thing. They just both had strong opinions, and a little different ones about what property rights mean.”

    Asked about long-leveled allegations that Mr. Paul had disregarded neighborhood regulations, Mr. Skaggs, who is also a former leader of the county Republican Party, said that the senator “certainly believes in stronger property rights than exist in America.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    He has no base or serious support anymore. His supporters are too narrow, and not willing to put in the effort needed to get him over the line.
    Some (many!) allies are incompatible. If you go left, you lose the right. That's what happened. The right wants deportation for illegal Mexicans, and does not want increased leniency for black drug dealers.

    Nice thing about the right, they're pragmatic (and also politically hapless and pathetic) and thus very forgiving. If Rand shuts up about leftist issues and stops appearing in solidarity with Jesse Jackson or whatever crazed black leftists he was smooching with, and if he strongly helps push through tax cuts, immigration cuts, and deportation, after a few years of this the right will mostly forgive and forget.
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    Drudge linking reports that he will be out of action in the Senate for quite a while.

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    Yeah sure nothing to do with politics at all.

    Rand Paul’s Socialist Attacker Insists Assault Had ‘Nothing To Do’ With Politics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Drudge linking reports that he will be out of action in the Senate for quite a while.
    I just don't see that happening, especially when they try to push through some real sleaze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I just don't see that happening, especially when they try to push through some real sleaze.
    If we weren't such a shadow of our former selves, I'd suggest and be willing to contribute to a "get well soon, Randal" moneybomb.

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    Just one of the things Rand gets endure for being in the Senate. Even if this wasn't directly "politically motivated", I'm sure there was resentment that he was a US Senator getting away with whatever this dispute was.
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    As if the assault alone is not disgusting enough, the alleged motive for it is worse. Jim Bullington, a mutual friend of both Paul and Boucher, has come forward and described Boucher as a socialist. “He’s pretty much the opposite of Rand Paul in every way,” Bullington told The Washington Post. The neighbors had been known to have “heated discussions” about health care, Bullington said, adding that Boucher is an advocate of a national health system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    Some (many!) allies are incompatible. If you go left, you lose the right. That's what happened. The right wants deportation for illegal Mexicans, and does not want increased leniency for black drug dealers.

    Nice thing about the right, they're pragmatic (and also politically hapless and pathetic) and thus very forgiving. If Rand shuts up about leftist issues and stops appearing in solidarity with Jesse Jackson or whatever crazed black leftists he was smooching with, and if he strongly helps push through tax cuts, immigration cuts, and deportation, after a few years of this the right will mostly forgive and forget.
    Uh no, that's not what happened at all. Nice try at revising history though.
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    Matt, have you spoken with Rand?
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    Rand needs to keep his wits about him. I sure hope he will consider something for protection.
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    wonder if he had a pre-existing condition. it would take a lot for a 59 year old man to break my ribs without a weapon involved. albeit Rand is a man of small stature and has zero close quarter combat ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Rand's neighbor of 17 years ambushed the good Senator while mowing his lawn and beat the stuffing out of him, cracking 5 ribs, knocking out 3 teeth, and possibly breaking his jaw.

    More at: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...-paul-attacked


    From the comments at Naked Capitalism, this morning:
    "I had a colleague die of this, well after the breaking. He contracted pneumonia and was unable to cough to clear his lungs. Senator Paul might benefit from admission to an intensive care unit, under the care of a thoracic surgeon, and a team of respiratory therapists, and treated with an epidural block. It seems his assailant used his training as an anesthesiologist, and an osteopath, to attempt murder."
    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017...s-11617-2.html
    Rand will certainly need to avoid the flu this year.

    Never saw the part about broken jaw and three teeth. Can't trust the media on this. They will be giving this crazed Marxist an award soon, and blame it all on Rand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    wonder if he had a pre-existing condition. it would take a lot for a 59 year old man to break my ribs without a weapon involved. albeit Rand is a man of small stature and has zero close quarter combat ability.
    Anyone who is over the age of 30 and decided it would be fun to go out and play tackle football again can attest to the ease of breaking things...
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    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    Yeah, right. Fake news. Nice try. [Edit]
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    Quote Originally Posted by liveandletlive View Post
    wonder if he had a pre-existing condition. it would take a lot for a 59 year old man to break my ribs without a weapon involved. albeit Rand is a man of small stature and has zero close quarter combat ability.
    He tackled him from behind. I'd guess that once he was on the ground, he started kicking him in the ribs and face. That's what scumbags do.

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