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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    I'm pretty sure if I slapped Nancy Pelosi across the face I'd be in jail for a very long time
    I'm pretty sure you're on the money.

    I'm also pretty sure that if you slapped her like that and I had billions, I'd cover your lawyers fees.
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    Found this article and it was very vague but said this:

    Bowling Green, KY -
    Senator Rand Paul is recovering after a man assaulted the Senator at his Kentucky home on Friday November 3rd.

    According to Senator Paul's Press office, "Senator Paul was blindsided and the victim of an assault. The assailant was arrested and it is now a matter for the police. Senator Paul is fine.”

    Kentucky State Police say the Senator was not transported to the hospital.

    Police tell WNKY News 59 year old Rene Boucher of Bowling Green was arrested for the assault.

    He's charged with one count of Assault 4th - minor injury. Boucher remains in the Warren County Detention Center.

    WNKY has learned that Boucher is the Senator’s neighbor. The FBI believe that the attack was politically motivated.
    http://www.wnky.com/story/36764458/s...-bowling-green
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    h/t AllahPundit




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    Muh property rights. Muh NAP
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    Punishment is gonna be even more harsh for assaulting a sitting senator.

    I bet Rand is gonna do something smart like only pressing charges for attacking him as a person and not elected official.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Fences make good neighbors.
    It appears the dividing line between properties was a small creek where Rand's sons sometimes played:

    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    New Details on Rand Paul Assault: Sneak Attack, Possible Political Dispute

    by KASIE HUNT and DARTUNORRO CLARK
    NOV 6 2017

    Disagreement between Rand Paul and his neighbor over the senator's politics and his property line were possible motives in the Sunday attack that left the Kentucky lawmaker with five broken ribs, a source told NBC News on Monday.

    Paul was wearing headphones while mowing his lawn in Bowling Green, Kentucky, when he was attacked from behind by Rene Boucher, 59, on Sunday afternoon, two sources said. Paul suffered five rib fractures, including three displaced fractures.

    Paul managed to throw Boucher off of him and they exchange words, sources said.

    The two men had not spoken several years and a rift between pair possibly stemmed from Boucher's distaste for Paul's politics, as well as those of his father, former Texas Rep. Ron Paul, a source said.

    Paul and Boucher also had a previous disagreement about a property line involving a creek behind the lawmaker's house where Paul's sons would sometimes play, the source added.

    Boucher's lawyer denied that politics had anything to go with the fight.

    ...
    read more:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...ispute-n818021
    So if the dividing line is the middle of the creek, a fence doesn't seem be applicable to this situation.

    What an awful thing to have happen to such a good person. Congress is filled to the brim with corrupt, paid-off awful people and this guy chooses to attack one of the very small handful of people that are there for principle and a general desire to improve this country. I so much hope Rand will heal and these injuries will not come back to haunt him later on in life as chronic pain.


    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    I don't know but then again, I don't believe you particularly help society by locking up individuals for a very long time. It costs money and when they get out, have they become better people or better criminals ?
    Most U.S. prisoners are in prison for crimes where they did not physically harm other human beings: in those cases I completely agree with you. If they are not a physical threat, there are better methods of rehabilitating people. But in cases where a human being has actually physically harmed another human being, I disagree with you. They need to keep them away from society and from attacking others, including re-attacking their original victims. If they actually released from prison all of those who are there for reasons not including attacking other people physically, I think the price to taxpayers would come down dramatically; people involved in taking illegal substances, protesting, etc., and even theft where physical altercations were not involved, should not be put in a cage imho.

    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    It's not restitution either, it's pure revenge. So no, let him pay the medical bills, any lost income and a big sum as restitution.
    It's not pure revenge. It's taking someone who is dangerous to innocent people away from those people so they cannot be physically harmed.

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    Tolerant, peaceful Left at it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    Punishment is gonna be even more harsh for assaulting a sitting senator.

    I bet Rand is gonna do something smart like only pressing charges for attacking him as a person and not elected official.
    I personally hope he doesn't press charges...

    Takes a big man to avoid using the vile kourt system....

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    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    Yeah, that's not really my cup of tea. But Boucher seemed to think it was a good option.
    In biology, it's not how you play the game. Mother Nature, like honey badger, just don't care. It's whose group can most effectively turn food and resources into children. He who does so, wins the future. It's crush and destroy or be crushed and destroyed.

    And there is, of course, far, far more than one way to crush and destroy. But then you knew that. Or did you?

    It's not about killing people.... at least not always. It is always about keeping them from having babies, or at minimum from having babies anywhere near you.


    Are white people with French ancestry a target group now? I'd better make sure I'm carrying my papers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Identity View Post
    Tolerant, peaceful Left at it again.
    Indeed. So, why do we tolerate them, again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    h/t AllahPundit



    Yeah, right. Fake news. Nice try. [Edit]
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 11-07-2017 at 11:03 AM. Reason: Forum violation.
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    Hope to hear more from Rand soon, he must be pretty out of sorts or busy with doctors if he's not chatting up twitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    Yeah, right. Fake news. Nice try, Jews!
    Could you not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I personally hope he doesn't press charges...

    Takes a big man to avoid using the vile kourt system....
    The victim cannot "press charges." Only the prosecuting attorney can, it is up to their discretion and theirs alone, after a "complaint" has been filed. Which evidently it already has. Whether by Rand or, more likely, the police that investigated.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    The victim cannot "press charges." Only the prosecuting attorney can, it is up to their discretion and theirs alone, after a "complaint" has been filed. Which evidently it already has. Whether by Rand or, more likely, the police that investigated.
    You are talking about criminal charges. A civil lawsuit is another matter.
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    According to Robert Wenzel at Target Liberty...

    UPDATE 18

    Both Capitol Police and the FBI are now investigating the incident.
    http://www.targetliberty.com/2017/11...hysically.html
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.

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    I'm sure they HAVE been "sparring over yard waste," or whatever, for years. That can be "politically motivated", too.

    'If "XYZ party" transgresses on my property then I shrug it off. But if it's "ABC party" I'm gonna flip out!'

    This stupid MSM wants to treat everything in a vacuum, as if nothing interferes with anything else. Of COURSE politics was involved here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Well they would say, she's a woman...

    Of course that would be a lie, but that's what happens anymore.
    Didn't she have a part in They Live ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murray N Rothbard View Post
    I'm sure they HAVE been "sparring over yard waste," or whatever, for years. That can be "politically motivated", too.

    'If "XYZ party" transgresses on my property then I shrug it off. But if it's "ABC party" I'm gonna flip out!'

    This stupid MSM wants to treat everything in a vacuum, as if nothing interferes with anything else. Of COURSE politics was involved here.
    After a decade of demonization by MSNBC and Rachel Maddow, a brainwashed and incited leftist attacks Rand because politics? Ludicrous!

    /s

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/u...?smid=tw-share

    According to Rand's neighbor who spoke to Rand the day after the incident:


    “He is still unsure why he was attacked,” Mr. Porter said. “I don’t know if he knows why he was attacked.”
    Mr. Paul had just stepped off a riding lawn mower on Friday when Rene Boucher, a retired anesthesiologist who lived next door, charged and tackled him. Because Mr. Paul was wearing sound-muting earmuffs, he did not realize Mr. Boucher was coming, according to one of the Kentucky Republicans and a friend familiar with the altercation.

    “Rand never saw him coming or heard him coming,” said the friend, Robert Porter, who visited Mr. Paul on Saturday.
    Asked about long-leveled allegations that Mr. Paul had disregarded neighborhood regulations, Mr. Skaggs, who is also a former member of the county Republican Party, said that the senator “certainly believes in stronger property rights than exist in America.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    You are talking about criminal charges. A civil lawsuit is another matter.
    I thought that was what tod was referring to. In any event having read the arrest warrant it was a State Trooper that was the affiant in this case. The neighbor admitted to it.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    I'm pretty sure if I slapped Nancy Pelosi across the face I'd be in jail for a very long time
    In our upside down bizarro world, making a threat of breaking a Senator, politician or officials ribs on the internet is a far greater crime than ACTUALLY attacking them and breaking their ribs in the real world.

    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    There's a deterrence factor as well (which I understand some people don't believe in either). In any case, if you can beat the snot out of a senator and only have to pay $5 and spend a year in jail, they might as well be operating it like a dunking booth. Unless they increase the charges, this whole thing is a joke.

    Come one come all. Got a ticket? Fantastic! Step right up. Keep throwing 'til you hit the bulls-eye.
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    Amazing that this can possibly be discussed as anything but a politically motivated attack.

    Especially after he was almost assassinated a few months ago for political reasons.

    Be armed, stay armed. This $#@! is starting to boil off, for real.

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    Amazing that this can possibly be discussed as anything but a politically motivated attack.

    Especially after he was almost assassinated a few months ago for political reasons.

    Be armed, stay armed. This $#@! is starting to boil off, for real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Why do you think that is?
    He has no base or serious support anymore. His supporters are too narrow, and not willing to put in the effort needed to get him over the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    I personally hope he doesn't press charges...

    Takes a big man to avoid using the vile kourt system....
    So, short of uncivilized revenge violence?, what would you say is the remedy to having 5 of your ribs broken?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    So, short of uncivilized revenge violence?, what would you say is the remedy to having 5 of your ribs broken?
    I'd say you save your response for the establishment. I know this has reaffirmed my belief that Rand is a marked man and they were sending him a message. I think the only reason why he is still with us because he either has a dead man switch in place or they don't want to make him into a martyr. It sure makes sense if he has one though, he sure doesn't mince words when he criticizes the establishment and their sacred cows.

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    What a spin - a matter that most people would regard as trivial. Who is playing dumb here?
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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