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Thread: Rand Paul assaulted at Kentucky home (UPDATE: 6 broken ribs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    I like how all the headlines say "minor injury." Possible death doesn't seem minor. And how the hell is this only a possible max one year in prison?

    I wouldn't be surprised if the official reason is some property dispute. But after this guy's Facebook, there is no chance politics wasn't a huge motivator. The guy is an unhinged leftist. You don't attack a US Senator like that over a property dispute.
    Apparently a correction was issued and they had never met. I am thinking the guy is probably mentally off and worked himself up into a frenzy for whatever political reason and took action.

    Getting blindsided is not something a regular Joe would expect coming riding along on your mower with ear plugs. As a Republican public figure in a nation of this size they probably should have been thinking more about home security.



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    5 broken ribs is no minor altercation! What did the guy do? Beat him with a tire iron??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    5 broken ribs is no minor altercation! What did the guy do? Beat him with a tire iron??
    I garnered both 'tackled' and 'mowing the lawn' from what's been written...

    Slammed into from behind, or the side while on a riding mower could certainly break ribs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    I would say the charges need to be bumped to assault in the second degree (class C felony) which carries a 5-10 yr. sentence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murray N Rothbard View Post
    4th degree assault?

    $5k bail?

    This is weird. Waiting for more details. Hope Rand is OK.
    Bail is probably the most backwards, screwed up thing in our judicial system.

    They do need to up the charges on this, possibly even to aggravated assault. It takes a lot of force to displace a rib (fracturing is fairly easy but the bone usually stays relatively in-line).
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    From WAPO https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.2bbd4e7c2a57

    Jeff Jones, a registered nurse who worked with Boucher at the Bowling Green Medical Center, described Boucher’s politics as “liberal.”

    “He was active on social media and said some negative things about the Republican agenda,” Jones said.

    “I think it was unfortunate that they lived so close together,” he added



    Jim Bullington, a former member of the city commission, knows both men. He said Sunday that Boucher is divorced and lives alone. Bullington described Boucher as a socialist.


    “He’s pretty much the opposite of Rand Paul in every way,” Bullington said in an interview.


    The neighbors had been known to have “heated discussions” about health care, Bullington said, adding that Boucher is an advocate of a national health system.



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    This is upsetting. Broken bones cause a lot of lasting damage and discomfort.

    Hopefully Rand will be able to get this guy out of his house so he can live in peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Lordy help me I clicked on the comments. Can we please write off the Left and just let the Right kick the $#@! out of them? Of all the Republican senators in D.C. they are celebrating and mocking Rand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Bail is probably the most backwards, screwed up thing in our judicial system.
    Rand would be the first person to say that the bail system is unjust, as it stands.

    Indeed, he has a bill pending on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I would say the charges need to be bumped to assault in the second degree (class C felony) which carries a 5-10 yr. sentence.
    Yeah really.

    Quote Originally Posted by MRK View Post
    Hopefully Rand will be able to get this guy out of his house so he can live in peace.
    Yeah, as in prison... and then an indefinite restraining order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    A Facebook page that appeared to be Boucher’s included links to articles and memes critical of President Trump and a news article about a Montana Republican congressional candidate who attacked a reporter the day before winning his seat. The page said Boucher is a former Army pain-management specialist and graduated from the College of Osteopathic Medicine in Des Moines in 1984.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post

    They do need to up the charges on this, possibly even to aggravated assault
    . It takes a lot of force to displace a rib (fracturing is fairly easy but the bone usually stays relatively in-line).
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    This also shouldn't be lost on anyone that this Boucher character is getting a ton of free publicity for his rice vest, as it is now mentioned in every single news story about this incident. Maybe he figured a misdemeanor assault charge would be worth the uptick in visibility for his product. This really should be upgraded to Felony Assault charges and will make it harder for the bastard to profit from his crime.
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    What is coming up in the near future that THEY want Rand out of action for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What is coming up in the near future that THEY want Rand out of action for?
    The presidency...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    The presidency...
    He should be healed by 2020.

    I mean in the time he will be unable to be in the Senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He should be healed by 2020.

    I mean in the time he will be unable to be in the Senate.
    He's supposed to be developing a tax reform bill isn't he? Was that last month's business, or ongoing?

    I want to see this Rene Doucher saddling the White House mower in blaze orange when Rand's in office. It wouldn't have to be combined with prison, just call it community service. He has to cut the lawn every week for 8 years, snow plow in the winter or something... never see his family again.

    For real though, if Rand was a Clinton or Bush, the fool would be dead. He picked a soft target the media wouldn't weep for, with his back turned and deaf from the motor running. $#@!ing coward would have been goo if he tried tackling Obama. (I think even nominees keep their secret service don't they?) He's a pussy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    He's supposed to be developing a tax reform bill isn't he? Was that last month's business, or ongoing?

    I want to see this Rene Doucher saddling the White House mower in blaze orange when Rand's in office. It wouldn't have to be combined with prison, just call it community service. He has to cut the lawn every week for 8 years, snow plow in the winter or something... never see his family again.

    For real though, if Rand was a Clinton or Bush, the fool would be dead. He picked a soft target the media wouldn't weep for, with his back turned and deaf from the motor running. $#@!ing coward would have been goo if he tried tackling Obama. (I think even nominees keep their secret service don't they?) He's a pussy.
    Nothing Rand wants will likely survive in the tax plan (much as I hate to say it), there must be something else coming up that they think he could sway the Senate about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    The presidency...
    No chance that Rand runs for President again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Nothing Rand wants will likely survive in the tax plan (much as I hate to say it), there must be something else coming up that they think he could sway the Senate about.
    If not tax reform, then gun control. That's been in the press recently...

    He can still serve his term with an absentee vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    If not tax reform, then gun control. That's been in the press recently...

    He can still serve his term with an absentee vote.
    I'm looking for a "black swan" or "bolt from the blue", like war maybe, something they don't want him able to speak to the Senate about.
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    In the mean time, gun control is something Republicrats, Trump, and MSM salivate for more of. I guess we'll find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He should be healed by 2020.

    I mean in the time he will be unable to be in the Senate.
    Things look to be going more sideways by the day. Like everything coming out of the media lately, this whole story is just bizarre. What are the odds that someone attacks Rand and gets a small bond at the same time Rand is looking to make bond procedures an issue (though can be argued that bond is a state issue, not a fed issue). And the Sheriff's office screws his name up so badly in the booking record but the media knows exactly how his name is spelled correctly? It's all just very strange.
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    Last tweet before the assault?



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    Rand was also almost shot at in Alexandria, Virginiia!!!
    Personally I feel these two events have no connection
    but the mood of the country is angry and shrill. I do
    think D.J Trump will leave public office after a Senate
    Trial, he is not fated to be the NEXT Andrew Johnson.
    Like Jerry Ford, Mike Pence will step in, but will find it
    extremely difficult to bring about a landslide like Ronald
    Reagan in 1980. The Democrats must find a contender
    who is YOUNGER than Barack Obama to get past 2016.
    Both parties are wide open and lack fresh leadership!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    No chance that Rand runs for President again.
    Why do you think that is?

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    Neighbors Say Rand Paul’s Attacker Was An Avowed Socialist
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/05/ne...wed-socialist/
    an avowed liberal who frequently fought with his neighbors about politics...about health care policies and other liberal issues. Boucher and Paul, a Republican from Kentucky, are on the opposite end of the political spectrum, they told reporters....
    “This type of injury is caused by high velocity severe force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Lordy help me I clicked on the comments. Can we please write off the Left and just let the Right kick the $#@! out of them? Of all the Republican senators in D.C. they are celebrating and mocking Rand.
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    “[T]he enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table.” (Heller, 554 U.S., at ___, 128 S.Ct., at 2822.)

    How long before "going liberal" replaces "going postal"?

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    It is not easy to break multiple ribs. Such an injury would have to be caused by use of lethal force. Why are these charges not more severe than "4th degree assault?"

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