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  4. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    UM, NO, this was more than a mysterious black eye, this was political terrorism.
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  5. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Uh no, that's not what happened at all. Nice try at revising history though.
    You don't even have a logical fallacy to accuse me of! Nothing? Nothing at all? I think that's the closest we are ever going to see to you posting "Yeah, you're basically right."



    Rand veered left. Tried to appease them. Tried to build some alliances with them. Tried to talk to them in their snobby, urban, supercillious language. That was obviously what he did. It was long-term and ongoing, for years. It was more than a tactic, it was a strategy. A very well-thought-out, intentional, patient strategy. Got on the cover of TIME a time or two with the strategy. "Most Interesting Man in Politics!" the leftists swooned. Who was to say it wouldn't work? Some here on RPF still advocate pandering to and allying with the left. And maybe it would have worked brilliantly in the general, setting himself as a moderate centrist like this. Didn't work for McCain, but hey, I'm no consultant/sound guy. But we never got to see, because the GOP electorate wanted to... what was that phrase again? Build That.... rehabilitation center for newly-released MS-13 members?

  6. #245

    Rand Paul does not know why a longtime neighbor tackled him in his yard

    That earlier NY Times article mangled the story to push the neighborly dispute angle. Held back statement from Rand saying he had no idea why he was attacked, till the very end. Meanwhile speculation from nameless nobodies, plus the guilty man's lawyer, made up the title and the bulk of their "report".

    http://www.wgauradio.com/news/friend...ojoya9kzwE14I/
    FRIEND SAYS RAND PAUL DOES NOT KNOW WHAT PROMPTED ATTACK
    ADAM BEAM and BRUCE SCHREINER Associated Press
    November 7, 2017 1:40 PM EST - Updated: November 7, 2017 1:38 PM EST

    LOUISVILLE, Ky. - LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — U.S. Sen. Rand Paul does not know why a longtime neighbor tackled him in his yard and broke five of his ribs, sidelining him from the Senate, a close friend of the lawmaker said Tuesday.

    Rob Porter, who says he has known Paul for 20 years, visited the senator on Saturday just one day after the attack. He said Paul was mowing his yard and had stopped to remove a limb when 59-year-old Rene Boucher, Paul's neighbor for 17 years, tackled him from behind, slamming him to the ground. Porter said Paul was wearing ear protection and did not hear Boucher coming.

    For days, mystery has swirled around what led to the assault, from Washington, D.C., to the high-end gated community where both men live. Rumors spread in the community that the attack stemmed from a festering neighborhood dispute about lawn debris. But Porter said in all the years he has known Paul, he has never heard him mention Boucher or any type of yard issue with his neighbor.

    "Rand doesn't really have any interaction with the guy. If there was a dispute, I do believe Rand wasn't aware of it," Porter said. "I have been to their house socially and for a variety of reasons for going on 20 years, I've never heard (Paul) mention (Boucher), good or bad."

    The FBI is investigating the assault to see if it was politically motivated. Boucher's attorney, Matt Baker, said the attack had "absolutely nothing to do" with politics but was "a very regrettable dispute" that was "trivial." He would not elaborate, saying he needs to "do my due diligence" before offering specifics about the case.

    Paul's representatives have declined to comment about what might have prompted the attack. Doug Stafford, Paul's senior adviser, called the case a "serious criminal matter involving state and federal authorities."...

    http://www.wgauradio.com/news/friend...ojoya9kzwE14I/

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    I'm just glad this guy didn't tackle his own children and send them to the hospital, that would have been REALLY tragic
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    Sounds to me like Rand "tough-guyed" it when giving a police statement and was actually hurt worse than he admitted.
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    Police: What happened Rand??
    Rand: Well you know the interesting thing is, I had ear protection on...



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  11. #249
    Rand probably spent time reading all the posts here that say "never talk to cops".

  12. #250
    Quote Originally Posted by Crashland View Post
    Police: What happened Rand??
    Rand: Well you know the interesting thing is, is I had ear protection on...
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  13. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    UM, NO, this was more than a mysterious black eye, this was political terrorism.
    That's the part I don't get, does Rand have cameras? He says he didn't see the guy coming, he got sucker punched and probably woke up in the hospital right? Either there are a lot of holes in this story or we are not getting all the information.. we don't even know if the guy did it just because they said he did it right?

  14. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    That's the part I don't get, does Rand have cameras? He says he didn't see the guy coming, he got sucker punched and probably woke up in the hospital right? Either there are a lot of holes in this story or we are not getting all the information.. we don't even know if the guy did it just because they said he did it right?
    You don't have a right to any information. A neighbor had said that Randal managed to throw the douchbag off of him, indicating that he didn't "wake up in the hospital". Sounds like the guy was on top and wailing away. A police interviewed him at the scene and thought he had some bruises and cuts, but didn't know he had cracked ribs. A spokesman for Randal said he was embarrassed by the whole situation and didn't want to bring any extra attention to it. Seems pretty normal of a reaction to me. If you gotten beaten up by some guy attacking you unnoticed would you go around releasing camera footage of it or wanting to bring extra attention to it? Most men wouldn't.

  15. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    You don't have a right to any information. A neighbor had said that Randal managed to throw the douchbag off of him, indicating that he didn't "wake up in the hospital". Sounds like the guy was on top and wailing away. A police interviewed him at the scene and thought he had some bruises and cuts, but didn't know he had cracked ribs. A spokesman for Randal said he was embarrassed by the whole situation and didn't want to bring any extra attention to it. Seems pretty normal of a reaction to me. If you gotten beaten up by some guy attacking you unnoticed would you go around releasing camera footage of it or wanting to bring extra attention to it? Most men wouldn't.
    Rand doesn't bring attention to himself that way. I know he did some interviews after the Senate ballgame attack, but he never seemed to thrive in that particular light. Seemed he wanted to keep bringing it back to policy.

  16. #254
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    You don't have a right to any information. A neighbor had said that Randal managed to throw the douchbag off of him, indicating that he didn't "wake up in the hospital". Sounds like the guy was on top and wailing away. A police interviewed him at the scene and thought he had some bruises and cuts, but didn't know he had cracked ribs. A spokesman for Randal said he was embarrassed by the whole situation and didn't want to bring any extra attention to it. Seems pretty normal of a reaction to me. If you gotten beaten up by some guy attacking you unnoticed would you go around releasing camera footage of it or wanting to bring extra attention to it? Most men wouldn't.
    Thanks for the info- don't know about you but to me this seems out of the normal. I don't know anyone who has been jumped by their neighbor to the tune that they can't come back to work. To me a little bit of context sounds like the norm, not out of the norm. I don't pretend to know anything I try to get all my news from Rand Paul he seems to be the only person telling it like it is, and in one of his most recent interviews when asked about the state of things and foreign policy he said arm yourself, he then later clarified to do it by staying informed, so I appreciate the info.

  17. #255
    It's not hard to find. Back in '08 he told me he was probably the only doctor in town that had his home number and address listed in the phone book. Anyone with 3 brain cells and 5 minutes on Google can figure it out.
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  18. #256
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Rand doesn't bring attention to himself that way. I know he did some interviews after the Senate ballgame attack, but he never seemed to thrive in that particular light. Seemed he wanted to keep bringing it back to policy.
    I hope its his pride and he isn't being shut up, lots of changes going on in the middle east especially in countries Rand Paul has expressed lots of criticism for. I think we might see regime change in SA before we see it in Iran with the way things are going. Something Rand has recently predicted.



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  20. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by helmuth_hubener View Post
    Rand veered left. Tried to appease them. Tried to build some alliances with them. Tried to talk to them in their snobby, urban, supercillious language. That was obviously what he did. It was long-term and ongoing, for years. It was more than a tactic, it was a strategy. A very well-thought-out, intentional, patient strategy. Got on the cover of TIME a time or two with the strategy. "Most Interesting Man in Politics!" the leftists swooned. Who was to say it wouldn't work? Some here on RPF still advocate pandering to and allying with the left. And maybe it would have worked brilliantly in the general, setting himself as a moderate centrist like this. Didn't work for McCain, but hey, I'm no consultant/sound guy. But we never got to see, because the GOP electorate wanted to... what was that phrase again? Build That.... rehabilitation center for newly-released MS-13 members?
    Talking to black people and visiting the inner city is not what cost him the Republican primary.


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  21. #258
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    It's not hard to find. Back in '08 he told me he was probably the only doctor in town that had his home number and address listed in the phone book. Anyone with 3 brain cells and 5 minutes on Google can figure it out.
    He did it by publishing a copy of the arrest affidavit. The address of Paul and Boucher were on it. He really should have blacked them out. For the safety of both.

  22. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I hope its his pride and he isn't being shut up, lots of changes going on in the middle east especially in countries Rand Paul has expressed lots of criticism for. I think we might see regime change in SA before we see it in Iran with the way things are going. Something Rand has recently predicted.
    I'm not gonna concern troll. Sometimes things are what they are. His neighbor didn't seem particular stable to begin with so, I think it is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I'm not gonna concern troll. Sometimes things are what they are. His neighbor didn't seem particular stable to begin with so, I think it is what it is.
    17 years with no attacks is pretty stable, I think I would feel comfortable enough to mow my lawn with earplugs in without thinking I will get sucker punched by some prick. Does he have a mental illness or something and was off his meds?

  26. #263
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Does he have a mental illness
    Yes.


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  30. #266
    Sen. Rand Paul’s attacker may face more serious charges, due to life-threatening injuries

    The neighbor of US Senator Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) may get charged with felony assault, after Paul was reportedly hospitalized with five broken ribs, three out of alignment. The attack allegedly took place as the senator was at home mowing his lawn.

    Kentucky State Police Master Trooper Jeremy Hodges said Monday that new developments in Senator Paul’s injuries could lead to a felony charge against Rene Boucher, the neighbor who reportedly tackled Paul at his Bowling Green residence on Friday, according to the Washington Post.

    “It requires serious physical injury in order for someone to be charged with a felony,” Hodges said. “Our arresting officer will submit his completed case report and then the prosecutors will make a decision about whether to upgrade those charges.”

    The five broken ribs included three displaced fractures, which could cause a fatal wound to the heart and lungs, Paul’s senior advisor Doug Stafford told the Associated Press on Sunday. Pain from the rib injuries is severe and can last for weeks or months, according to AP.

    Paul has bruised lungs, and the injuries could lead to pneumonia, Fox News reported Monday.

    Boucher, a 59-year-old retired anesthesiologist, currently faces a misdemeanor charge for fourth-degree assault. The criminal complaint said Paul, 54, was having “trouble breathing due to a potential rib injury,” according to the Post.

    A court date for Boucher has been set for Thursday. He has been out on a $7,500 bond since Saturday, AP reported. Boucher is under court order not to have any contact with Paul, his family or offices, or procure any firearms or any kind of weapon, the Post reported, according to Warren County-provided bond paperwork.
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    More: https://www.rt.com/usa/408962-rand-p...-ribs-charges/
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  31. #267
    McConnell says Rand Paul is expected to be back to work next week

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  33. #269
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/USAB4L/status/928112224908075009

    Wow, is GQ a leftist rag too? https://www.gq.com/story/rand-paul-bad-neighbor


    no MSM article mentions his neighbor is a socialist.
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  34. #270
    I thought he backed out of the primary for president after he made a fool of Donald Trump in a televised debate and then, voila!, someone started primarying him for the senate seat, IIRC. (Or that's how it seemed and how some of us took it.)

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