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    Senator Rand Paul said on Sunday night that even though the president is raising millions for a 2020 campaign, Republicans should not assume he's running.

    ďThere could well be a primary," the junior senator from Kentucky said on MSNBC, after being asked if a 2020 primary would be good for the Republican Party.

    Paul had prefaced his remark by saying Republicans "need to know [if] President Trump [is] running for re-election. I think you won't know that until you get into sort of second, third year of his presidency."


    Paulís comment echoes what Trump insider and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie told the Today show's Matt Lauer on October 27: "If he runs again I would support him, yes, but I'm not so sure what will happen."

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-may...140318114.html
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    Paul will not do well in a 2020 Primary if that's what people are hoping for. The nation is far far too polarized and brainwashed by Trump (both for and against) for anyone with actual principles or ideas to make any headway in his wake. Republicans are now chiefly concerned with merely pissing off liberals and stomping on them every chance they get, regardless of the underlying principles or morality. Democrats meanwhile are going to see every Republican as a reprehensible MAGA-hat-wearing Trump disciple and ignore anything else, especially any theoretical idea requiring more than 2 neurons to comprehend.

    Mark my words- 2020 is going to be worse than 2016 in terms of discourse. Trump and the ignorant, emotionally-driven overreaction to Obama which he led, with no foundation in theory or principles, is what did this. America will need 4 years after him to reset before it even starts thinking again.

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    Yeah I think Rand should just stick to the Senate, or go back to his medical practice if he wants to.
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    I would like to see Paul run again. A bit of sanity in politics would be nice.
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    The neocons have Pence in place and guaranteed as the next GOP pick. He will be their greatest victory yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murray N Rothbard View Post
    Mark my words- 2020 is going to be worse than 2016 in terms of discourse. Trump and the ignorant, emotionally-driven overreaction to Obama which he led, with no foundation in theory or principles, is what did this. America will need 4 years after him to reset before it even starts thinking again.
    I'm pretty sure the left-right paradigm and the tactics of divide and conquer used by the media have existed long before Trump. Sure, his actions may have escalated it, but the media painted him out to be Satan and still continue to. This leads to dividing a lot of people into two opposing groups. Do you agree with media and treat Trump like Satan or do you disagree with him and "defend" him as if you're defending yourself because in defending him, you're defending your ideology opposing the media in a sense.

    I dont disagree with you that people are only becoming more ignorant and violent, but this all can't be blamed on Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murray N Rothbard View Post
    Paul will not do well in a 2020 Primary if that's what people are hoping for. The nation is far far too polarized and brainwashed by Trump (both for and against) for anyone with actual principles or ideas to make any headway in his wake. Republicans are now chiefly concerned with merely pissing off liberals and stomping on them every chance they get, regardless of the underlying principles or morality. Democrats meanwhile are going to see every Republican as a reprehensible MAGA-hat-wearing Trump disciple and ignore anything else, especially any theoretical idea requiring more than 2 neurons to comprehend.

    Mark my words- 2020 is going to be worse than 2016 in terms of discourse. Trump and the ignorant, emotionally-driven overreaction to Obama which he led, with no foundation in theory or principles, is what did this. America will need 4 years after him to reset before it even starts thinking again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    or go back to his medical practice if he wants to.
    I dearly hope it doesn't come to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    I dearly hope it doesn't come to this.
    I wouldn't blame him to be honest. I swear he must feel like this every time he tries talking to Congress and the media:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murray N Rothbard View Post
    Paul will not do well in a 2020 Primary if that's what people are hoping for. The nation is far far too polarized and brainwashed by Trump (both for and against) for anyone with actual principles or ideas to make any headway in his wake. Republicans are now chiefly concerned with merely pissing off liberals and stomping on them every chance they get, regardless of the underlying principles or morality. Democrats meanwhile are going to see every Republican as a reprehensible MAGA-hat-wearing Trump disciple and ignore anything else, especially any theoretical idea requiring more than 2 neurons to comprehend.

    Mark my words- 2020 is going to be worse than 2016 in terms of discourse. Trump and the ignorant, emotionally-driven overreaction to Obama which he led, with no foundation in theory or principles, is what did this. America will need 4 years after him to reset before it even starts thinking again.
    I'm not so sure. Liberals wouldn't vote for a Republican regardless, and there are far fewer "Maga" folk than the media portrays. What we will hopefully see is the dem's freak-show coalition going against a reasonable gop candidate who resonates with the unclaimed middle class.
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    Far too early to see how anything is gonna shake out.
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    Rand is fortunate that Trump hasn't endorsed him as his replacement.

    The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Rand is fortunate that Trump hasn't endorsed him as his replacement.
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    Rand was doing well until Trump jumped in and the avalanche of media coverage followed him. He got buried along with all the other republican candidates.

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    The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    What planet did you just come back from?
    How is US Senate GOP candidate Luther Strange polling in your galaxy, after his YUUGE victory over Roy Moore in the primary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    How is US Senate GOP candidate Luther Strange polling in your galaxy, after his YUUGE victory over Roy Moore in the primary?
    Who cares?
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    Fake news didn't get the soundbyte they wanted so they took Rand out of context. They keep trying to get Rand to criticize the president so they can claim he is against Trumps agenda to cut tax or repeal Obamacare. They just wanted to be able to blame Rand Paul for Washington's failed policies and pit Trump supporters against him

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    Letís hope not I think once was enough for everybody. Iím kinda seeing 20-20 for 2020, is there a doctor in the house?

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    Here's hoping for a Trump/Paul ticket in 2020
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    If Trump doesnt run in 2020, it'll be because he accomplished what he set out to do (MAGA)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The neocons have Pence in place and guaranteed as the next GOP pick. He will be their greatest victory yet.
    It is a lock as far as i know .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    It is a lock as far as i know .
    Did you consult the Magic 8 ball?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Did you consult the Magic 8 ball?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mello View Post
    Rand was doing well until Trump jumped in and the avalanche of media coverage followed him. He got buried along with all the other republican candidates.
    OH PLEASE. Rand killed his own chances. He did it all by himself. If he had wanted to kill his campaign, he couldn't have done a better job of it. Now, THAT is the truth. Deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    OH PLEASE. Rand killed his own chances. He did it all by himself. If he had wanted to kill his campaign, he couldn't have done a better job of it. Now, THAT is the truth. Deal with it.
    That is NOT the truth.

    Trump-lovers & the media took Rand down.

    Deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    That is NOT the truth.

    Trump-lovers & the media took Rand down.

    Deal with it.
    Nope.

    It was indeed sad to watch. It started with Rand supporting McConnell against being called a liar on the Senate floor. It made him look like establishment, in a political climate where establishment was not the thing to be.

    You have a convenient memory, Ender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Nope.

    It was indeed sad to watch. It started with Rand supporting McConnell against being called a liar on the Senate floor. It made him look like establishment, in a political climate where establishment was not the thing to be.

    You have a convenient memory, Ender.
    Sadly I must agree. If Rand had ran on a firebrand don't-give-a-$#@! all out Lion for Liberty campaign, he would have done much better... but he played politics with McConnell and the RINOs and people saw right through it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mello View Post
    Rand was doing well until Trump jumped in and the avalanche of media coverage followed him. He got buried along with all the other republican candidates.
    Yes. Not only that, but I still haven't seen any solid evidence that trump wasn't a Hillary plant. The Podesta Manafort collusion says it all.

    Of course, on script you get a bunch of people saying Rand was too compromising and not alpha enough. The McConnell alliance wasn't a factor. The voting populace doesn't even know who McConnell is.

    But I will accuse Rand of stupidly trying to beat trump at his own game, trying to be brash and insulting and failing miserably during the debates. It's not in Rand's nature to be confrontational. He's a man of ideas. The high road would have suited him better. Without trump and the meticulously orchestrated anti-ISIS outrage, 2016 could have been a campaign of policy discussion that would have educated the populace (those who didn't fall asleep) like never before in history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murray N Rothbard View Post
    Paul will not do well in a 2020 Primary if that's what people are hoping for. The nation is far far too polarized and brainwashed by Trump (both for and against) for anyone with actual principles or ideas to make any headway in his wake. Republicans are now chiefly concerned with merely pissing off liberals and stomping on them every chance they get, regardless of the underlying principles or morality. Democrats meanwhile are going to see every Republican as a reprehensible MAGA-hat-wearing Trump disciple and ignore anything else, especially any theoretical idea requiring more than 2 neurons to comprehend.

    Mark my words- 2020 is going to be worse than 2016 in terms of discourse. Trump and the ignorant, emotionally-driven overreaction to Obama which he led, with no foundation in theory or principles, is what did this. America will need 4 years after him to reset before it even starts thinking again.
    The public will eventually develop clown fatigue and throw their support behind a (relatively) sober, policy-driven candidate.

    That's not necessarily Rand, of course, but it's a better environment for him than the current circus.

    It's the sort of environment that he was anticipating in 2016, and for which his campaign was well designed.

    When? You say 2024/28. I'm a little more optimistic. 2020 is realistic if Trump continues to make an ass of himself while failing to deliver anything.
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