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    2 NY Cops Arrested For Raping Handcuffed Female Suspect

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8024541.html

    Two New York police officers have been charged with allegedly raping a handcuffed teenage girl in their van.

    Officers Eddie Martins and Richard Halls are accused of having sex with the 18-year-old after arresting her in south Brooklyn.

    Both men have been indicted on first-degree rape charges after a week-long hearing which culminated with a grand jury vote on Friday, The New York Post reported.

    According to sources, the narcotics officers will turn themselves in next week for arraignment in Brooklyn Supreme Court.

    If convicted they face 25 years in jail.

    The alleged incident occurred on September 15 after the victim was arrested for possession of marijuana, which is legal in New York City when used for medicinal purposes.

    The two policemen are alleged to have driven the woman to a restaurant chain parking lot in Coney Island where she was forced to perform oral sex on both men and raped by Martins.
    If she didn't smoke pot, these things wouldn't happen. #AmIRite?



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    In New York City, two police officers have quit the New York Police Department after they were charged with rape, kidnapping and official misconduct. Prosecutors say former NYPD detectives Edward Martins and Richard Hall arrested an 18-year-old woman after stopping her car and finding a small amount of marijuana and a few anti-anxiety pills in her purse.

    The plainclothes officers handcuffed her and put her in the back of the police van. Prosecutors say Officer Martins then sat down in the backseat next to her, tightened her handcuffs, forced the teenager to give him oral sex and then pulled her pants off and raped her while she cried and begged him to stop. Prosecutors say Detective Hall watched his partner rape the teenager, then switched places with him and also forced her to perform oral sex on him.

    Prosecutors say the officers then drove the teenager back to Coney Island, forced her to take one of her anti-anxiety pills, instructed her to “keep her mouth shut” and left her on the side of the road near a police precinct. Testing shows the DNA of both officers was found on the teenager. The former police officers are claiming the acts were consensual as their defense.
    https://www.democracynow.org/2017/11...g_of_teen_girl

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    Consensual? The laws should not allow government thugs to claim "consensual." Best case here is that she agreed to all this in order to avoid arrest, which is hardly consensual.

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    “Hero” Says “Suspicion is a Misdemeanor”

    https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2017...n-misdemeanor/

    By eric - November 7, 20178454

    Here’s a video taken of another “hero” law enforcer who makes up “the law” on the spot!

    A guy is filming the publicly visible exterior of a police station from a public sidewalk – which is (for the moment) abundantly legal – when he is approached by two confrontational “heroes” who – of course – demand his ID, Soviet-style.

    Not because the man is committing a crime – but because he is challenging the authority of the “heroes.” It is time, therefore, for a Dominance Display.

    The fact that this sort of thing is has become routine in the United States says a lot about the state of the United States, which is no longer even plausibly a “free” country. It is a country in which lawless law enforcers do as they please – insolently – because they are confident that there will be no meaningful repercussions, no matter what they do.

    The guy taking the video politely asks what crime he’s committed, or is suspected of committing. This used to be the probable cause standard for detaining a person; that is, armed government workers were once-upon-a-time legally required to have a specific reason for suspecting a criminal act had been committed or was about to be committed before they could lawfully prevent a citizen from peaceably going about his business.

    It is no longer required.

    Technically, perhaps – but that is as irrelevant as the Fourth Amendment’s defunct guarantee that we are to be left unmolested absent probable cause and the Fifth Amendment’s similarly defunct injunction that we are not to be made to provide evidence that can and will be used against us in a criminal proceeding (see, for example, your 1099 form).

    So.

    The “heroes” reply that he is “suspicious” – and he is informed that this is a “misdemeanor.”

    The reality is, the “heroes” want to show who is Boss – and will use any device, legal or otherwise, to establish this fact. In a free country- if we still had one – this citizen would be free to go.

    Of course, we do not live in a free country. And so he isn’t free to go.

    These “hero” law enforcers” are brazenly acting well outside their lawful authority – which fact ought to result in their being fired and charged with abuse of authority under color of law – but it doesn’t.

    They are free to go. To continue assaulting people under color of law.

    As a matter of routine.

    And, worse.

    Consider, for instance, the fate of the Salt Lake City “hero” who brutally assaulted a nurse who declined to perform an illegal blood draw. He has been fired and his victim awarded a $500,000 settlement.

    But he is not in a cage. He has not been charged with the criminal assault under color of law he is flagrantly guilty of.

    Those familiar with this case know the basic story.

    An unconscious car wreck victim was taken to the hospital to be treated for his injuries. A thug with a badge shows up and – like the thug he is – demands immediate submission and cooperation from the nurse, whom he orders to draw blood from the unconscious victim, despite the nurse very calmly pointing out that it is not legal for her to do this – nor for him to demand it.

    In response, the thug with the badge and the government-issued gun physically attacks the nurse, assaulting her for the grievous offense of not obeying an armed government worker’s commands. Even though those commands had no basis in law.

    So, what happens?

    The taxpayers end up paying $500,000 for the damages caused by the violent, out-of-control and criminal “hero.”

    The “hero” himself is merely fired. Not even a fine.

    As a thought experiment, imagine the consequences if the nurse had jabbed her finger into the body-armored chest of the “hero,” to make a point. It goes without saying she would have been caged and charged with felony assault upon a “hero.”

    She would have faced prison time – not merely the loss of her job.

    This double standard is so routinized it might as well be codified – made official.

    “Heroes” also feel entitled to shove their porcine snouts into every nook and cranny of our lives. To surveil us using every means available to them (e.g., automated license plate readers, random checkpoints, devices that hack into our cell phones). They demand that we submit to searches of our persons and property – in order to establish we’re not guilty of something.

    They seize our money simply because we have “too much” of it.


    Etc. Etc.

    They wear opaque sunglasses – and tint the windows of their cars opaque – but we are not permitted to tint the windows of our cars much at all. For “their safety,” we are told; in reality, so that it is easier for them to look inside our cars and so conduct visual searches at random.

    Yet these same “heroes” get their backs up when a citizen so much as points a video camera their way.

    It is hardly necessary to elaborate. It is like pointing out that the sun has come up – or that it is dark at night.

    We have become subjects – and are no longer citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    An unconscious car wreck victim was taken to the hospital to be treated for his injuries. A thug with a badge shows up and – like the thug he is – demands immediate submission and cooperation from the nurse, whom he orders to draw blood from the unconscious victim, despite the nurse very calmly pointing out that it is not legal for her to do this – nor for him to demand it.
    I know this is a minor point and I have pointed it out before; but this inaccuracy keeps being repeated. She did not point out calmly or in any way that it was not legal for her to do this. She cited her facility policy, not the law, nor the constitution. If her facility policy had not explicitly forbid it, I predict that she would have given him the blood. She simply didn't want to get fired and sued for not following her work rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post

    [...]

    Consider, for instance, the fate of the Salt Lake City “hero” who brutally assaulted a nurse who declined to perform an illegal blood draw. He has been fired and his victim awarded a $500,000 settlement.

    But he is not in a cage. He has not been charged with the criminal assault under color of law he is flagrantly guilty of.

    Those familiar with this case know the basic story.

    An unconscious car wreck victim was taken to the hospital to be treated for his injuries. A thug with a badge shows up and – like the thug he is – demands immediate submission and cooperation from the nurse, whom he orders to draw blood from the unconscious victim, despite the nurse very calmly pointing out that it is not legal for her to do this – nor for him to demand it.

    In response, the thug with the badge and the government-issued gun physically attacks the nurse, assaulting her for the grievous offense of not obeying an armed government worker’s commands. Even though those commands had no basis in law.

    So, what happens?

    The taxpayers end up paying $500,000 for the damages caused by the violent, out-of-control and criminal “hero.”

    The “hero” himself is merely fired. Not even a fine.


    As a thought experiment, imagine the consequences if the nurse had jabbed her finger into the body-armored chest of the “hero,” to make a point. It goes without saying she would have been caged and charged with felony assault upon a “hero.”

    She would have faced prison time – not merely the loss of her job.

    This double standard is so routinized it might as well be codified – made official.

    [...]

    It is hardly necessary to elaborate. It is like pointing out that the sun has come up – or that it is dark at night.

    We have become subjects – and are no longer citizens.

    Thanks for sharing this. That taxpayers have to pay the $500,000.00 for the misdeeds of this badged thug says it all. When government workers engage in illegal activity as this badged thug did, they, not the taxpayers, should have to pay for the penalty (and if they did have to pay for the penalty, it would give many of these miscreants pause before engaging in the illegal activity in the first place). That this goes on constantly and routinely is outrageous.

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    As if that weren't bad enough, 9 NYPD showed up at the hospital to intimidate the girl and her mom

    Chambers immediately contacted her mother and they went together to the local hospital for a rape kit examination. While Chambers and her mother were at the hospital, nine officers showed up to intimidate them into remaining silent about what happened.

    “They came with nine cops to intimidate her and her mom, to discourage them from coming forward and reporting the rape and sex assault,” attorney Michael David, told The Post.

    The officers accused Chambers of making a false report, and suggested that she had made accusations against cops in the past, which she has not.

    “Anna said [the officer] was trying to manipulate a rubber band over his name tag, so she couldn’t see who it was,” David said.

    “He kept saying to Anna and her mom, ‘How do you know they were real cops?’ ” David said.

    “You don’t know what you’re talking about. Your daughter doesn’t know what she’s talking about,” the officer allegedly said. …

    Chambers went ahead with the rape kit despite the intimidation, and the examination found traces of both officers DNA. …
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    The two policemen are alleged to have driven the woman to a restaurant chain parking lot in Coney Island where she was forced to perform oral sex on both men and raped by Martins.
    Allegedly being the key word.

    The alleged incident occurred on September 15 after the victim was arrested for possession of marijuana
    Are we really going to trust the word of someone who uses marijuana? Against the testimony of two Officers, really?
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    Chambers went ahead with the rape kit despite the intimidation, and the examination found traces of both officers DNA. …
    And how do we know that this woman didn't plant this evidence in there herself??
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    Add those nine LEO too? Victim intimidation and obstruction charges?

    I thought from a legal standing prisoners were unable to consent, even if they to so.

    Martins and Hall are facing a total of 50 charges, including first-degree rape, first-degree criminal sexual act and second-degree kidnapping. Each could face up to 25 years in prison if convicted.
    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/nyp...g-raping-teen/
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    Process Server Serving Papers on Behalf of Accused NYPD Cops Promptly Arrested After Harassing Raped Teen

    A process server has been arrested for “impersonating an officer” after he served a subpoena to Anna Chambers, the alleged rape victim who says she was sexually assaulted when two undercover NYPD officers took her away from her friends in an NYPD van in September 2017.

    Corey Guskin, 59, was caught on camera insulting Chambers apparently harassing her by not leaving her door steps after serving her with the legal documents. The video, which has now gone viral, shows Guskin recording Chambers as she insists he leave. He calls the alleged rape victim a “stupid bitch.”

    Chambers … accused NYPD Detectives Richard Hall and Eddie Martins of raping her after they arrested her for marijuana possession on Coney Island Sept. 15th of 2017. … both men raping her while she was still in handcuffs. Her friends were also told she was being arrested and could be picked up at the NYPD station. They were also allegedly told not to follow the van, a possible indication they had planned the rape beforehand. …

    With respect to Guskin, the process server claimed to be representing the Sheriff’s Office. …
    Don’t tell me what to do. I’m from the Sheriff’s office, I can do whatever I want…Go screw yourself.

    [Guskin] apparently knew who he was serving papers and may have developed an opinion about her case. This speculation is revealed when he brought up Chambers’ heritage. He stated: “This isn’t Russia, I’m not the KGB…You stupid bitch.”

    Guskin … was arrested on Friday the 10th of August and is soon to be arraigned for impersonating an officer. … “The Sheriff’s Office takes impersonation of its officers very seriously”

    Incredulously, the officers claim she consented to having sex with the two badge-wearing strangers. … Both Hall and Martins were arrested and charged with raping the teen.


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    Rape Charges Dropped Against NYPD Cops Who Had Sex With Teen
    More than 40 charges against the former detectives have been dropped, including rape, sexual assault and kidnapping

    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/nati...506798391.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post


    Rape Charges Dropped Against NYPD Cops Who Had Sex With Teen
    More than 40 charges against the former detectives have been dropped, including rape, sexual assault and kidnapping

    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/nati...506798391.html
    It makes me physically sick to my stomach.

    That these heroes were ever charged with a crime at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post


    Rape Charges Dropped Against NYPD Cops Who Had Sex With Teen
    More than 40 charges against the former detectives have been dropped, including rape, sexual assault and kidnapping

    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/nati...506798391.html
    Skate away...that's all...


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    I hope the Officers are OK. The girl that sexually assaulted them could have had STD's.
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  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Skate away...that's all...
    Well they are still charged with something more prosecutable.
    The officers, who resigned after the allegations broke, pleaded not guilty and claimed the sex was consensual. They've now been newly charged with accepting sexual favors as a bribe.

    The case spurred legislation to close what some called a police sex loophole. While New York law already bars sex between prison guards and inmates, it didn't apply to officers and those in their custody. The loophole has since been closed.


    A spokesman for the Brooklyn district attorney's office, Oren Yaniv, blamed "unforeseen and serious credibility issues" after recent evidence surfaced that contradicted the woman's testimony to a grand jury.
    I'd wager they have much better chances of proving in court that the woman offered to $#@! them to get out of charges, than the officers raping her without consent. Its simply more believable.



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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Well they are still charged with something more prosecutable.


    I'd wager they have much better chances of proving in court that the woman offered to $#@! them to get out of charges, than the officers raping her without consent. Its simply more believable.
    With any luck these charges will get dropped quickly. We have the word of two brave Officers who both say they did nothing wrong, against the word of one girl of questionable ethics/morals (e.g. bribing, sexually promiscuous).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    With any luck these charges will get dropped quickly. We have the word of two brave Officers who both say they did nothing wrong, against the word of one girl of questionable ethics/morals (e.g. bribing, sexually promiscuous).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Are we really going to trust the word of someone who uses marijuana? Against the testimony of two Officers, really?
    It's little subtleties like your capitalization of "Officers" that make you the best.

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    Last edited by Superfluous Man; 03-07-2019 at 08:15 AM.

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    Blue Privilege has its Perks - Rape Charges Dropped Against Cops Who Admitted to Sex With Teen They Kidnapped

    Despite admitting to kidnapping and sex with a teenage girl, two police officers had 43 rape charges dropped this week.

    Both of the officers … had all those charges dropped. Because the system is set up in a way to protect predator police officers, the charges have been reduced to bribery and official misconduct. They have both since been released on their own recognizance.

    “It’s just outrageous,” said Chambers’ lawyer, Michael David. “It was a clear-cut case. She was kidnapped. [and handcuffed] There was DNA evidence,” he said.

    After Chambers’ case garnered national attention, New York lawmakers were forced to pass a bill last year banning cops from having sex with people they arrest. Up until last April, cops in New York could have sex with people in custody, so long as they claimed it was consensual. And that’s exactly what happened in this case.

    Both officers kidnapped Chambers in 2017 for allegedly possessing marijuana. The cops conveniently let all of her friends go, and kept only the tiny teen girl. …

    As TFTP reported, Chambers used social media to voice her outcry for justice. She … was … dropped off near the police station after she says Hall and Martins had their way with her, both men raping her while she was still in handcuffs.
    Her friends were also told she was being arrested and could be picked up at the NYPD station. They were also allegedly told not to follow the van, a possible indication they had planned the rape beforehand.
    After she was raped in the police van and went to the hospital afterward, nine cops allegedly showed up to harass and threaten her. “They came with nine cops to intimidate her and her mom, to discourage them from coming forward and reporting the rape and sex assault,” attorney Michael David, told The Post.

    The officers accused Chambers of making a false report, and suggested that she had made accusations against cops in the past, which she has not.
    “Anna said [the officer] was trying to manipulate a rubber band over his name tag, so she couldn’t see who it was,” David said. “He kept saying to Anna and her mom, ‘How do you know they were real cops?’ ” David said. “You don’t know what you’re talking about. Your daughter doesn’t know what she’s talking about,” the officer allegedly said.

    The harassment expanded later as Corey Guskin, 59, who works for the city, was captured on video harassing the teen over the incident. Because it was caught on video, he was officially charged.

    The law cops were using to protect themselves from Anna’s testimony happens to exist in 34 other states as well where police officers can claim sex with someone they have taken into custody [and handcuffed inside their van] was consensual. …

    As Chambers’ lawyer said on Wednesday, “You can’t have consent, when you have two cops on duty. These are two cops over six feet, over two hundred pounds.” “She is 5-foot-2, 90 pounds,” [arrested, handcuffed and driven away] … “They have guns, they have handcuffs. You can’t have consent under those circumstances.” …

    When armed individuals chain a person’s hands and kidnap them, there is no reasonable manner in which that person could consent to having sex. Even if there was no struggle and the arrested person goes along with police demands, when you are under duress and kidnapped against your will, there is no consenting. …
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  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Blue Privilege has its Perks - Rape Charges Dropped Against Cops Who Admitted to Sex With Teen They Kidnapped

    Despite admitting to kidnapping and sex with a teenage girl, two police officers had 43 rape charges dropped this week.

    Both of the officers … had all those charges dropped. Because the system is set up in a way to protect predator police officers, the charges have been reduced to bribery and official misconduct. They have both since been released on their own recognizance.

    “It’s just outrageous,” said Chambers’ lawyer, Michael David. “It was a clear-cut case. She was kidnapped. [and handcuffed] There was DNA evidence,” he said.

    After Chambers’ case garnered national attention, New York lawmakers were forced to pass a bill last year banning cops from having sex with people they arrest. Up until last April, cops in New York could have sex with people in custody, so long as they claimed it was consensual. And that’s exactly what happened in this case.

    Both officers kidnapped Chambers in 2017 for allegedly possessing marijuana. The cops conveniently let all of her friends go, and kept only the tiny teen girl. …

    As TFTP reported, Chambers used social media to voice her outcry for justice. She … was … dropped off near the police station after she says Hall and Martins had their way with her, both men raping her while she was still in handcuffs.
    Her friends were also told she was being arrested and could be picked up at the NYPD station. They were also allegedly told not to follow the van, a possible indication they had planned the rape beforehand.
    After she was raped in the police van and went to the hospital afterward, nine cops allegedly showed up to harass and threaten her. “They came with nine cops to intimidate her and her mom, to discourage them from coming forward and reporting the rape and sex assault,” attorney Michael David, told The Post.

    The officers accused Chambers of making a false report, and suggested that she had made accusations against cops in the past, which she has not.
    “Anna said [the officer] was trying to manipulate a rubber band over his name tag, so she couldn’t see who it was,” David said. “He kept saying to Anna and her mom, ‘How do you know they were real cops?’ ” David said. “You don’t know what you’re talking about. Your daughter doesn’t know what she’s talking about,” the officer allegedly said.

    The harassment expanded later as Corey Guskin, 59, who works for the city, was captured on video harassing the teen over the incident. Because it was caught on video, he was officially charged.

    The law cops were using to protect themselves from Anna’s testimony happens to exist in 34 other states as well where police officers can claim sex with someone they have taken into custody [and handcuffed inside their van] was consensual. …

    As Chambers’ lawyer said on Wednesday, “You can’t have consent, when you have two cops on duty. These are two cops over six feet, over two hundred pounds.” “She is 5-foot-2, 90 pounds,” [arrested, handcuffed and driven away] … “They have guns, they have handcuffs. You can’t have consent under those circumstances.” …

    When armed individuals chain a person’s hands and kidnap them, there is no reasonable manner in which that person could consent to having sex. Even if there was no struggle and the arrested person goes along with police demands, when you are under duress and kidnapped against your will, there is no consenting. …
    AZJoe,

    Here is an update on this story.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...e-trial-police

    Snoop

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by snoop4truth View Post
    AZJoe,

    Here is an update on this story.

    [URL]https://old story from January

    Snoop
    Not an update.. it is an older story.. but have some education anyway.

    https://www.constitution.org/lrev/roots/cops.htm

    Police work is often lionized by jurists and scholars who claim to employ "textualist" and "originalist" methods of constitutional interpretation. Yet professional police were unknown to the United States in 1789, and first appeared in America almost a half-century after the Constitution's ratification. The Framers contemplated law enforcement as the duty of mostly private citizens, along with a few constables and sheriffs who could be called upon when necessary. This article marshals extensive historical and legal evidence to show that modern policing is in many ways inconsistent with the original intent of America's founding documents. The author argues that the growth of modern policing has substantially empowered the state in a way the Framers would regard as abhorrent to their foremost principles.
    Last edited by pcosmar; 04-25-2019 at 06:15 PM.
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