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    Actress Alleges GHWB Sexually Assaulted Her From Wheelchair

    • ]Actress Heather Lind made allegations Tuesday claiming when she met former President George H.W. Bush, 93, he 'sexually assaulted' her from his wheelchair
    • She claimed the 'assault' happened during a photo-op with wife Barbara Bush standing by his side, and claims his wife saw the incident unfold
    • Lind says this happened four years ago while she was promoting a movie
    • The now 34-year-old actress claims that afterwards Bush's security detail told her she shouldn't have stood next to the former president for the photo-op
    'And then, all the while being photographed, touched me again. Barbara rolled her eyes as if to say ''not again''. His security guard told me I shouldn't have stood next to him for the photo.'

    'We were instructed to call him Mr. President. It seems to me a President's power is in his or her capacity to enact positive change, actually help people, and serve as a symbol of our democracy,' the lengthy post went on.

    'He relinquished that power when he used it against me and, judging from the comments of those around him, countless other women before me,' Lind wrote.

    Her post goes on to say: 'What comforts me is that I too can use my power, which isn't so different from a President really. I can enact positive change. I can actually help people. I can be a symbol of my democracy.'

    'I can refuse to call him President, and call out other abuses of power when I see them,' she writes.



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    Last edited by angelatc; 10-24-2017 at 08:48 PM.



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    Damn. I wish I could give you rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Damn. I wish I could give you rep.
    Got that.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Me Too is spreading.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Me Too is spreading.
    The $#@!ty Men in Media List

    https://www.pscp.tv/Cernovich/1rmxPOWAZwVJN
    Last edited by dannno; 10-24-2017 at 09:28 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The $#@!ty Men in Media List

    https://www.pscp.tv/Cernovich/1rmxPOWAZwVJN
    I too was sexually molested by President Bush the First. Where's my fame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    I too was sexually molested by President Bush the First. Where's my fame?
    It doesn't count if you liked it.
    No - No - No - No
    2016

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    'I can refuse to call him President, and call out other abuses of power when I see them,' she writes.
    Well, at least you got a start. Wait until the other two branches disappoint you. Lol.



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    ... bunch of perverted $#@!s running the show... skating from justice at every turn... $hit like this needs to go mainstream 'til they're all brought down.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    ... bunch of perverted $#@!s running the show... skating from justice at every turn... $hit like this needs to go mainstream 'til they're all brought down.
    bad news, ain't gonna happen. this is how the world has been run for thousands of years. now, why don't you go back to your corner and stroke your .... ego

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    bad news, ain't gonna happen. this is how the world has been run for thousands of years. now, why don't you go back to your corner and stroke your .... ego

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Heather is sort of hot.

    Therefore, I sort of believe her.

    If she were totally hot, I would totally believe her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    UUhhh, that's because when men are stars, women tend to consent to sexual activity with them more than regular dudes.. lol.. and I'm the idiot???

    Women are often attracted to money and fame and power like men are attracted to sexy women, ok? Women who tend to put themselves around men like that, even MORE so, ok?
    How intellectually dishonest can you be? You can't just respond to a single line and remove all context and clarification.

    Just take 1 step back and look at exactly what Trump said.

    This is what he admits that HE does:

    1. He kisses women when he sees them
    2. He doesn't wait (for consent)
    3. He grabs them by the pussy

    You would obviously describe such a person as guilty of sexual assault.

    However, he also said what he perceives that the women:

    a. They let you do it if you are rich/important

    So how does a. modify 1-3?

    Does he only kiss/grope women that he thinks are ok with it? What if he's wrong? That would be sexual assault.

    Does he mean that they let him get away with it? That would be sexual assault.

    So we can conclude one of the following three things.

    I. He's just lying and he does wait for consent
    II. He has a 100% success rate of predicting which women are ok with it
    III. He sexually assaults women

    If he followed the "steps" of 1-3 more than a handful of times, he's almost certainly guilty of assault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    How intellectually dishonest can you be? You can't just respond to a single line and remove all context and clarification.

    Just take 1 step back and look at exactly what Trump said.

    This is what he admits that HE does:

    1. He kisses women when he sees them
    2. He doesn't wait (for consent)
    3. He grabs them by the pussy

    You would obviously describe such a person as guilty of sexual assault.

    However, he also said what he perceives that the women:

    a. They let you do it if you are rich/important

    So how does a. modify 1-3?

    Does he only kiss/grope women that he thinks are ok with it? What if he's wrong? That would be sexual assault.

    Does he mean that they let him get away with it? That would be sexual assault.

    So we can conclude one of the following three things.

    I. He's just lying and he does wait for consent
    II. He has a 100% success rate of predicting which women are ok with it
    III. He sexually assaults women

    If he followed the "steps" of 1-3 more than a handful of times, he's almost certainly guilty of assault.
    Wow, you are calling me intellectually dishonest, then you add words into what Trump said THAT HE NEVER SAID..

    Wow.. just wow..

    These women were all over Trump, afterall he is one of the richest and most powerful men in the world.. this is equivalent to you saying that the sexiest female model on earth can't go around and kiss pretty much any single available dude she wants.. I mean, come on.. think about it.

    People like you with Trump derangement syndrome don't want to admit that, but whatever, just be in denial and keep whining about Trump like it will make any difference.

    II. He has a 100% success rate of predicting which women are ok with it
    Quite possibly, yes, what available woman would NOT want the most rich and powerful man on earth? There were women throwing themselves at him left and right, I don't think he is going to have a problem finding which ones like him. Again, the women that are hanging around men like that are the ones that like that type the most, so it's not really surprising that there were women constantly throwing themselves at him.
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Wow, you are calling me intellectually dishonest, then you add words into what Trump said THAT HE NEVER SAID..

    Wow.. just wow..

    These women were all over Trump, afterall he is one of the richest and most powerful men in the world.. this is equivalent to you saying that the sexiest female model on earth can't go around and kiss pretty much any single available dude she wants.. I mean, come on.. think about it.

    People like you with Trump derangement syndrome don't want to admit that, but whatever, just be in denial and keep whining about Trump like it will make any difference.



    Quite possibly, yes, what available woman would NOT want the most rich and powerful man on earth? There were women throwing themselves at him left and right, I don't think he is going to have a problem finding which ones like him. Again, the women that are hanging around men like that are the ones that like that type the most, so it's not really surprising that there were women constantly throwing themselves at him.
    What words did I add? Are you really crying about me adding "(for consent)"? What else would he be waiting/not waiting for? Do you have any ideas or are you just going to be dumbfounded?

    But alright, if you're gonna go with the 100% success rate conclusion then I guess you're just part of the trump personality cult



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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    How intellectually dishonest can you be? You can't just respond to a single line and remove all context and clarification.

    Just take 1 step back and look at exactly what Trump said.

    This is what he admits that HE does:

    1. He kisses women when he sees them
    2. He doesn't wait (for consent)
    3. He grabs them by the pussy

    You would obviously describe such a person as guilty of sexual assault.

    However, he also said what he perceives that the women:

    a. They let you do it if you are rich/important

    So how does a. modify 1-3?

    Does he only kiss/grope women that he thinks are ok with it? What if he's wrong? That would be sexual assault.

    Does he mean that they let him get away with it? That would be sexual assault.

    So we can conclude one of the following three things.

    I. He's just lying and he does wait for consent
    II. He has a 100% success rate of predicting which women are ok with it
    III. He sexually assaults women

    If he followed the "steps" of 1-3 more than a handful of times, he's almost certainly guilty of assault.
    you really do have trump derangement syndrome. Or you are very young and not very wise.

    a guy with an ego like trump's is talking privately to another dude. Trump pretty much alpha-dogs everybody, so it is probably a safe bet that he was alpha-dogging this guy. He says stuff to the guy which translates to, "I'm a big star and you're not" Similar to the alpha dog getting first choice of mates, and being first to eat the fresh kill.

    the accusers that came out during the campaign when we have no record of Trump being accused prior to the campaign (AFAIK) makes them highly suspect. Especially considering the vehemence shown towards him.

    by all accounts that I'm aware of Trump is fair and respectful of women. And he employs a bunch of them, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    What words did I add? Are you really crying about me adding "(for consent)"? What else would he be waiting/not waiting for? Do you have any ideas or are you just going to be dumbfounded?

    But alright, if you're gonna go with the 100% success rate conclusion then I guess you're just part of the trump personality cult

    I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
    He said he just starts kissing them, and then says after that they let him do it.. Which is EXACTLY what I said. They let him do it because he is rich and powerful, he is the male version of Kim Kardashian. This is not complicated, you are just making $#@! up like everybody else.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    He said he just starts kissing them, and then says after that they let him do it.. Which is EXACTLY what I said. They let him do it because he is rich and powerful, he is the male version of Kim Kardashian. This is not complicated, you are just making $#@! up like everybody else.
    So you admit that and you still like him as president? LOL

    The fact that you are getting so bothered by the suggestion that it's possible that Trump has assaulted a woman is actually hilarious. Keep it going. I already fully explained the quote, you don't need to give your low-effort spin. You already said you think Trump had a 100% success rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    So you admit that and you still like him as president? LOL
    What the $#@! does that have to do with being President?? I'm talking about sexual attractiveness. I don't give a flying $#@! whether the President is the most attractive, or least attractive person. It just happens that Trump was very attractive when he was younger due to his wealth and power, and now people are using that against him.


    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    The fact that you are getting so bothered by the suggestion that it's possible that Trump has assaulted a woman is actually hilarious.
    I'm not bothered by the suggestion that it is possible Trump "assaulted" "women", he very well may have.. What I am bothered by is the complete and total stupidity of people claiming that he assaulted women based on a statement that CLEARLY indicated consent.. He said THEY LET HIM DO IT. That is THE DEFINITION of consent, and people who think otherwise are really dimwitted and/or have Trump derangement syndrome.


    You already said you think Trump had a 100% success rate.
    He had a 100% success rate in the instances he described whereby the women "let him do it". Otherwise he would have said, "some of them didn't let me do it and I did it anyway". But he never said that. He implied that there was consent 100% of the time. So based on that statement, he didn't assault any women. Maybe he did assault women, but he certainly didn't do it BASED ON THAT STATEMENT. That is what you claimed, and now you are looking like a complete fool.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    ...the suggestion that it's possible that Trump has assaulted a woman...
    As a Chad celebrity worth billions women were throwing themselves at him. I am not buying the guy assaulted women but rather heard it as off mic locker room talk based on that.

    I am not sure of your age, maybe it is different these days among sheltered Millenials, but this kind of talk when you get a bunch of guys together is not unusual. Listen the way they were laughing, one big joke and probably some exaggeration. Who has not busted a gut every now and then with blue humor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    So you admit that and you still like him as president? LOL

    The fact that you are getting so bothered by the suggestion that it's possible that Trump has assaulted a woman is actually hilarious. Keep it going. I already fully explained the quote, you don't need to give your low-effort spin. You already said you think Trump had a 100% success rate.
    LOL!

    That's exactly why I asked the question in the first place.

    All these terrible men are finally being brought to the front about sexual assault and they deserve it- FOR SHAME- because everyone knows they are just nasty pervs.....uh...... until we mention Trump.

    Then it's OH NOES! HE didn't assault anyone, the women wanted it, are lying, want money, fortune, fame, etc., etc., etc...otherwise, we all know they would have clearly spoken out when it happened; just like we all know that the women who don't are just simply liars.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    This is what he admits that HE does:

    1. He kisses women when he sees them
    2. He doesn't wait (for consent)
    3. He grabs them by the pussy

    You would obviously describe such a person as guilty of sexual assault.
    Hopefully nobody has recorded me should I run for office in the future. I've told people that I can only get an erection if the woman is crying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    Hopefully nobody has recorded me should I run for office in the future. I've told people that I can only get an erection if the woman is crying.
    The main problem wasn't the tape, that was just Trump giving credence to the dozen+ women who accused him of sexual assault...



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    I don't know if it's worth the accusation if it's someone you could immediately throat punch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    I don't know if it's worth the accusation if it's someone you could immediately throat punch.
    If he did it, I think it is. People (Not on this forum, I'm speaking in general.) seem to forget what a complete sack of $#@! that man is and anything that reminds them is fine with me.
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    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    If he did it, I think it is. People (Not on this forum, I'm speaking in general.) seem to forget what a complete sack of $#@! that man is and anything that reminds them is fine with me.
    Oh I agree..it just bugs me she didn't speak up until now. I personally would've rather throat punched him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Oh I agree..it just bugs me she didn't speak up until now. I personally would've rather throat punched him.


    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Carlybee again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    The now 34-year-old actress claims that afterwards Bush's security detail told her she shouldn't have stood next to the former president for the photo-op
    Not to excuse old NWO Bush, but the security detail was probably speaking from experience. As much as it's popular right now to jump on the "evil men want sex" witch-hunt bandwagon, there are conditions where this is not unusual.

    Has anyone ever been to an elder-care or rest home? Between old-age, senility, Alzheimer's, dementia, drugs and strokes, old people slowly revert back to basics. Old men grabbing is not unusual. It's pretty sad in an institution, but for George, they clean him up and take him out in the public, where he might be inappropriate. How much this applies to GHWB is unknown to us, but he isn't looking very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Not to excuse old NWO Bush, but the security detail was probably speaking from experience. As much as it's popular right now to jump on the "evil men want sex" witch-hunt bandwagon, there are conditions where this is not unusual.

    Has anyone ever been to an elder-care or rest home? Between old-age, senility, Alzheimer's, dementia, drugs and strokes, old people slowly revert back to basics. Old men grabbing is not unusual. It's pretty sad in an institution, but for George, they clean him up and take him out in the public, where he might be inappropriate. How much this applies to GHWB is unknown to us, but he isn't looking very good.
    Exactly and what I was just saying about this outside the forum.

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