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    THE TROOPS DO NOT DIE FOR THEIR COUNTRY

    The TROOPS DO NOT DIE for THEIR COUNTRY

    U.S. troops who have been killed in Niger, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam, Korea, or other faraway places did not die to defend the rights and freedoms of the American people. That’s a lie, a lie that unfortunately is deeply embedded all across American society, including in churches. …

    No one over there is invading the United States and trying to take away our rights and freedoms. Nonetheless, the lie persists …

    Another lie is the one that says that U.S. soldiers who get killed over there have died for their country. … In reality though, U.S. soldiers who die in faraway lands have died for their government, not their country.

    That notion shocks a lot of people. … the government and the country are two separate and distinct entities, a phenomenon implicitly recognized by the first ten amendments to U.S. Constitution … The Bill of Rights expressly protects the country from the federal government

    If a foreign nation were to invade the United States, U.S. troops would be said to be defending their country. But no one is invading the United States. Instead, it is the U.S. government, operating through the troops, that is invading other countries. …

    U.S. troops who have died in Niger, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam, or Korea have not died for their country. They have died for their employer, the U.S. government, which has ordered them into those faraway lands to kill or be killed. …

    None of them died for their country. None of them died defending our rights and freedom here at home. …

    Last edited by AZJoe; 10-24-2017 at 12:31 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    The TROOPS DO NOT DIE for THEIR COUNTRY

    U.S. troops who have been killed in Niger, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam, Korea, or other faraway places did not die to defend the rights and freedoms of the American people. That’s a lie, a lie that unfortunately is deeply embedded all across American society, including in churches. …

    No one over there is invading the United States and trying to take away our rights and freedoms. Nonetheless, the lie persists …

    Another lie is the one that says that U.S. soldiers who get killed over there have died for their country. … In reality though, U.S. soldiers who die in faraway lands have died for their government, not their country.

    That notion shocks a lot of people. … the government and the country are two separate and distinct entities, a phenomenon implicitly recognized by the first ten amendments to U.S. Constitution … The Bill of Rights expressly protects the country from the federal government

    If a foreign nation were to invade the United States, U.S. troops would be said to be defending their country. But no one is invading the United States. Instead, it is the U.S. government, operating through the troops, that is invading other countries. …

    U.S. troops who have died in Niger, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Vietnam, or Korea have not died for their country. They have died for their employer, the U.S. government, which has ordered them into those faraway lands to kill or be killed. …

    None of them died for their country. None of them died defending our rights and freedom here at home. …


    ^^THIS^^
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    Many of them believe they are fighting for our freedom, but they are fighting for the Empire and those who benefit from it.
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    Really excellent post. And very sad.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

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    Harsh, but true enough.

    If our military were conscripts instead of volunteers, I think we'd have mutinied by now. That's not going to happen once drones take over operations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    Harsh, but true enough.

    If our military were conscripts instead of volunteers, I think we'd have mutinied by now. That's not going to happen once drones take over operations.



    Roger, Roger.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    They die imposing Trumps version of Noninterventionism.
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    They die imposing Trumps version of Noninterventionism.
    Does Trump endorse "Noninterventionism"?

    I thought he campaigned on the concept of an expanded military, and expanded military operations....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Created4 View Post
    Does Trump endorse "Noninterventionism"?

    I thought he campaigned on the concept of an expanded military, and expanded military operations....
    Not according to the trump supporters on here. He was the second RP, didn't you hear.
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.



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