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    Toyota’s hydrogen electric fuel cell trucks are now moving goods around the Port of Los Angeles

    The only emission is water vapor



    Oct 12, 2017: A concept version of Toyota’s hydrogen fuel cell truck is running short-haul drayage routes at the Port of Los Angeles as part of a feasibility study, which figures in to the port’s efforts to reduce harmful emissions.

    The truck will move goods from select Port of LA and Long Beach terminals to surrounding rail yards and warehouses for distribution. Toyota estimates the vehicle’s daily trips will total around 200 miles — short, frequent route patterns designed to test the duty-cycle capabilities of the fuel cell system. As the study progresses, longer haul routes will be introduced.

    Toyota unveiled its plan to build a fleet of heavy-duty, zero-emission, hydrogen fuel cell trucks last April. The concept truck generates more than 670 horsepower and 1,325 pound-feet of torque from two Mirai fuel cell stacks and a 12kWh battery. Its gross combined weight capacity is 80,000 pounds.

    Hydrogen fuel cells — which use compressed hydrogen as their fuel and release only water vapor as an emission — have been in development for decades, but only recently have they attained performance and range numbers good enough to replace an average driver's gasoline-powered car.

    That said, hydrogen hasn’t taken off as a propulsion technology due to severe shortage in fueling stations. Experts predict that commercial vehicles, like trucks and forklifts, could benefit more from hydrogen, thanks to access to centralized, industrial fueling stations at ports or warehouses.

    Toyota has more experience with fuel cell vehicles than most automakers. The automaker began selling its hydrogen-powered Mirai sedan in the US in 2015, but recent reports suggest the company has only sold several hundred units. Toyota has said it plans to sell buses powered by hydrogen fuel cells in Tokyo this year, in time for the 2020 Summer Olympics.

    And Toyota isn’t alone in pursuing zero-emission big rigs. Nikola Motor Company recently unveiled a huge class 8 truck that's powered by hydrogen fuel cells. The Salt Lake City-based startup claims its H2-powered truck will have an operational range of as much as 1,200 miles when it's released in 2020...snip more: https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/12/...-truck-port-la



    What about the lack of Hydrogen stations? These trucks all leave from and return to the same place every day. So there only has to be ONE big hydrogen station at the Port of LA. Problem solved.

    Fun to watch the great company Toyota beat the subsidy-addicted Tesla and their egotistical little Tweeter-in-Chief that can't seem to tell the truth about anything.



    Related: First Public Hydrogen Station in the Middle East Opens in Dubai



    Dubai: The Middle East region’s first hydrogen refilling station was unveiled on Wednesday at the Dubai Festival City, in a move hoped to eventually usher in the UAE’s transformation into a “hydrogen society”.

    Al Futtaim Motors, the country’s Toyota dealership, inaugurated its hydrogen station in its Al Badia showroom in partnership with France’s Air Liquide.

    The initiative is in line with the UAE Vision 2021, aimed to raise the country’s contribution to the world’s clean energy drive and reduce dependence on fossil fuel, said officials.

    Saud Abbasi, Managing Director of Toyota at Al Futtaim Motors, said the move to introduce hydrogen-powered cars in the UAE is the next step in their sustainable mobility journey.

    Toyota first introduced green vehicles in the UAE in the form of Hybrid cars in the UAE nine years ago.

    In 2016, the Toyota Mirai (Japanese for “the future”) underwent rigorous technical tests under UAE‘s road conditions and a small demo hydrogen station was set up at Al Futtaim’s Al Badia location…snip more: http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/environ...ubai-1.2103976

    Another great week for Hydrogen and Energy Self-Sufficiency

    Hydrogen is The Next Big Thing™. And remember where you heard it first.
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    “Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor.” PNAC report September 2000



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    I see the Rat-Bastard Coward Downvoter has piped in again, and once again is too much of a chicken-$#@!e to explain the downvote.

    ROFL @ Rat-Bastard Cowards! No guts, no intelligence, no basic decency. Why are punks like this allowed to scamper around a supposedly serious place like RPF?

    How about a rule- no downvotes without a comment. Or would that be too much to ask from Rat-Bastard Cowards?
    Rand Paul lied about Crimea & Iran
    Rand- "US Must Take Strong Action Against Putin’s Aggression"
    “I’m not advocating everyone go out and run around with no clothes on and smoke pot, I’m not a libertarian. I’m a libertarian Republican. I’m a constitutional conservative”-Rand Paul
    “Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor.” PNAC report September 2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace Piper View Post
    Fun to watch the great company Toyota beat the subsidy-addicted Tesla and their egotistical little Tweeter-in-Chief that can't seem to tell the truth about anything.
    While I do like the promise of the hydrogen vehicles more than the $#@!ty electric ones... and I wouldn't piss on musk if he was on fire... but you might want to recheck your sources. Toyota has had plenty of subsidy help with their alternate-fueled vehicles.


    Just a couple quick examples found in no time:
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-j...0FS19420140723
    Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s planned consumer rebates of at least $20,000 per vehicle would be the largest government support plan for hydrogen vehicles yet, raising the stakes for a commercially unproven technology with roots in the space race that Toyota and others see headed for the mainstream over the coming decades.
    https://insideevs.com/japan-extends-ev-subsidy-program/
    Truth is that Japan offers some of the strongest plug-in vehicle subsidies of any nation in the world and they aren’t being phased out anytime soon.

    Earlier this year, Japan decided to extend its “Clean Energy” subsidies at least through early 2014 (it’s likely this will be extended again, but Japan makes this decision on an annual basis).

    Buyers of plug-ins in Japan reap huge benefits. Subsidies for passenger plug-in vehicles max out at approximately $8,500 (last year the max was closer to $10,000). The formula for computing the subsidy is complex, but it breaks down to something close to this: two thirds of the price difference between the EV and a comparable ICE vehicle
    Last edited by specsaregood; 10-13-2017 at 06:57 PM.






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