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    Default Trump Will Sign Legislation Imposing Additional Restrictions On Gun Ownership

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    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre ó the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

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    I dunno . Should not be any ever get out of the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I dunno . Should not be any ever get out of the house.
    FOX and the NRA are now openly promoting the idea of banning "bump stocks."

    There's not going to be anything major, but there's going to be something.
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre ó the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    FOX is now openly promoting the idea of banning "bump stocks."

    There's not going to be anything major, but there's going to be something.
    The senate is different you could get whatever anti 2nd amendmant $#@! you want through that pack of nancy boys .

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    FOX and the NRA are now openly promoting the idea of banning "bump stocks."

    There's not going to be anything major, but there's going to be something.
    Maybe.
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    I think Trump is playing the board right now, trying to think what he can get out of the democrats for this.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    I think Trump is...trying to think
    I concur
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre ó the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    I will predict that he won't, I don't think anything will get through Congress but if it does he will veto it and then they will try for an override so he isn't responsible, gun control either gets enough momentum for an override or it goes nowhere.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    I think something to that effect will slam his desk, and he'll maybe sign it - maybe he won't? I dunno. Call our reps' offices; let them know they're cooked if it passes the House.

    He could sign an anti-gun bill, and thereby make way to clear out the spineless Republicrats, who would either vote yea or not present, come election time. Not saying that's his plan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    I think something to that effect will slam his desk, and he'll maybe sign it - maybe he won't? I dunno. Call our reps' offices; let them know they're cooked if it passes the House.

    He could sign an anti-gun bill, and thereby make way to clear out the spineless Republicrats, who would either vote yea or not present, come election time. Not saying that's his plan...
    He doesn't have to sign it for that.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He doesn't have to sign it for that.
    IF he signs something though, every red or maroon state congressman that joins Ryan is going to get crucified along with the new law. If he doesn't sign, most incumbents have probably got nothing to lose. On the other hand, looks like the NRA and FAUX have got their backs no matter what. We'll see...
    They fought the Wars
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    They turned friends
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    They stood alone, in splendid isolation,
    And said it was their only choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    IF he signs something though, every red or maroon state congressman that joins Ryan is going to get crucified along with the new law. If he doesn't sign, most incumbents have probably got nothing to lose. On the other hand, looks like the NRA and FAUX have got their backs no matter what. We'll see...
    If he signs it he won't get the nomination in 2020, let alone be re-elected.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    They will pass a bill that bans bump fire stocks and maybe something else small. This will be seen as a compromise.
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    That election cycle's 1.5-2 years from now... that's like asking a goldfish if he remembers the 60's.
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    As much as I don't trust him I was leaning toward voting no, then I saw the White House statement that made it clear he will. It's up to the grassroots and groups like GOA and NAGR to stop it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    As much as I don't trust him I was leaning toward voting no, then I saw the White House statement that made it clear he will. It's up to the grassroots and groups like GOA and NAGR to stop it now.
    Source?
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Source?
    Thursday's sudden endorsements of controls came almost simultaneously from the NRA and the White House. The NRA, which famously opposes virtually any hint of new restrictions, said in a statement: "The National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law. The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."

    Moments after, at the White House, press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders praised the announcement. "We welcome that and a conversation on that," Sanders said. "It's something we're very open to." House Speaker Paul Ryan added his support, as have other top Republicans.

    "Obviously we need to look at how we can tighten up the compliance with this law so that fully automatic weapons are banned," the Wisconsin Republican told reporters at an event in Chestertown, Maryland.
    *************************************
    The issue of bump stocks came up aboard Air Force One as President Donald Trump traveled back from visiting Las Vegas on Wednesday, according to GOP Rep. Mark Amodei of Nevada, who was on board and said Trump sounded open to a change.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-fire-ban-quot

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    NOT good!

    But I will wait to hear what Dump himself says or does, I also don't think it will make it through Congress.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    NOT good!

    But I will wait to hear what Dump himself says or does, I also don't think it will make it through Congress.
    Don't wait, he needs to feel the heat before he makes a statement.
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    Of course he would sign it.

    Trump has been on the record for 20 years now, in his support of gun control.

    Stupid feckless GOP in the House and Senate will serve it up on a silver platter.

    Who knew that to get gun control passed, cement ObamaCare permanently into law, block tax cuts and grow government all you had to do is elect a solid GOP slate in all branches of government?

    Now, what's even more troubling, is once they roll over and capitulate on this, the Bolshevik mob on the left will get a scent of blood in the water, and it would not surprise me in the least to see more mass shootings designed to stampede the worthless GOP into much more Draconian gun control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Of course he would sign it.

    Trump has been on the record for 20 years now, in his support of gun control.

    Stupid feckless GOP in the House and Senate will serve it up on a silver platter.

    Who knew that to get gun control passed, cement ObamaCare permanently into law, block tax cuts and grow government all you had to do is elect a solid GOP slate in all branches of government?

    Now, what's even more troubling, is once they roll over and capitulate on this, the Bolshevik mob on the left will get a scent of blood in the water, and it would not surprise me in the least to see more mass shootings designed to stampede the worthless GOP into much more Draconian gun control.

    #nevervotingGOPagain
    Dont forget amnesty for dreamers signed into law. And maybe a more favorable climate change bill.
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    Need an option: "Of-course he $#@!ing will".
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

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    What if the ATF just revisits their decision in 2010 about bump stocks not violating the National Firearm Act?? That doesn't need a new legislative act?
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    What if the ATF just revisits their decision in 2010 about bump stocks not violating the National Firearm Act?? That doesn't need a new legislative act?
    Anything done on the regulatory side is entirely at the discretion of the President.
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre ó the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    He will, it will be benign but enough to placate the left and boost his ratings.
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