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    Trump says discussion of gun laws to come after Las Vegas massacre

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...tm_medium=push

    By Dave Boyer - The Washington Times - Tuesday, October 3, 2017

    President Trump said Tuesday that his administration will weigh new gun laws in the wake of the Las Vegas massacre, as he praised police for the “miracle” of their quick response to the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

    “We have a tragedy,” Mr. Trump told reporters at the White House. “We’ll be talking about gun laws as time goes by.”

    Asked about legislation on gun silencers, Mr. Trump replied, “We’ll talk about that later.”

    Mr. Trump has consistently spoken out for Second Amendment rights as a candidate.

    The president emphasized “the incredible job” done by Las Vegas police in the attack by a lone gunman that claimed at least 59 lives at an outdoor concert.

    “How quickly the police department was able to get in was really very much of a miracle,” Mr. Trump said. “They’ve done an amazing job.”

    He called the gunman, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, “a sick man, a demented man.” Paddock killed himself in his hotel room as police closed in.

    He had “a lot of problems, I guess,” Mr. Trump said. “We’re looking into him very, very seriously. But we’re dealing with a very very sick individual.”

    Mr. Trump will visit Las Vegas on Wednesday to meet with families of victims, first responders and police.



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    trump = copsucker
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    I do think that ID should be required for certain things like carrying a concealed weapon...




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    I think, going forward, people who are wealthy gamblers who have a father with a criminal record, should have to undergo additional layers of background checks before they can buy a weapon.

    If we did, tragedies such as this could have been prevented.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

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    We're going to find out two things very soon.
    First, we'll find out whether Trump is really the political mastermind everyone thinks he is. Because if he comes out in favor of even one more restriction, he's not. Gun control pulled out Bill Clinton's teeth... I'm not sure how even a nominal Republican can think himself immune.

    Second, we're going to find out whether his unmitigated support across the country is really without limits. He's going to say more stupid $#@! like this, and regardless whether he signs legislation, he's going to end up on the bad side of gun owners.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    trump = copsucker
    Shocked, I tell ya.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Shocked, I tell ya.
    His biggest selling point is and has always been that he is better(slightly to the point that u miss it if u blinked) than Hillary. Just so as long as he can convince his supporters that Hillary would have completely banned all gun, he can get away with banning everything except for muskets.
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

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    Who coulda knowed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Trump, "The America We Deserve," 2000
    I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun...

    ...The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions.
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    “How quickly the police department was able to get in was really very much of a miracle,” Mr. Trump said. “They’ve done an amazing job.”
    Let us recite the Captive's Prayer:

    Our Government who art in DeeCee, America was thy name.
    Thy bureaucracy came, our will undone, in Israel so go Congress.
    Give us this day our daily citation, and repeal our debt ceiling, as you go on taxing.
    Lead us not into Liberty, but deliver us from self-governance.
    For thine is the State, the welfare, and the wars forever. G-men.
    Last edited by Raginfridus; 10-03-2017 at 11:01 AM. Reason: textus receptus
    They fought the Wars
    They lost.
    They turned friends
    into enemies.
    Who became
    friends of our enemies.
    They stood alone, in splendid isolation,
    And said it was their only choice.

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    If he passes any form of gun control I think it will be a pretty good indication he is only running for one term.

    If he caves I do not believe he could win the nomination in 2020 even if he tried. If he did win he would lose the general.

    One can only hope he is just placating the gun grabbers and dangling the carrot to shut them up in thinking he will work with them. At least that would be the smart thing to do politically until this blows over.

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    It seems people here think republican voters are the same as libertarians when it comes to 2nd amendment. That's a false assumption. I believe there could be a compromise acceptable to most Republican voters and Trump supporters. Reagan banned full autos in 1986.

    Who's talking about a republican primary? Trump will be the 2020 general election candidate no matter what anyone on this forum hopes or wishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    It seems people here think republican voters are the same as libertarians when it comes to 2nd amendment. That's a false assumption...
    ... that nobody's made.
    They fought the Wars
    They lost.
    They turned friends
    into enemies.
    Who became
    friends of our enemies.
    They stood alone, in splendid isolation,
    And said it was their only choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    ... that nobody's made.
    I quit confusing the two a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    ... that nobody's made.
    Did I quote anyone? No. My point remains. What opinion do you bring to this thread?
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    Did I quote anyone? No. My point remains. What opinion do you bring to this thread?
    "It seems people here think republican voters are the same as libertarians when it comes to 2nd amendment."

    Of course you didn't quote anyone, because nobody's said what you've perceived.
    They fought the Wars
    They lost.
    They turned friends
    into enemies.
    Who became
    friends of our enemies.
    They stood alone, in splendid isolation,
    And said it was their only choice.

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    Gun control is dead in the water, the worst that will happen is that pro-gun bills get held up or die.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Gun control is dead in the water, the worst that will happen is that pro-gun bills get held up or die.
    That's what everybody said under Reagan when he banned the guns that allegedly were used in Las Vegas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    That's what everybody said under Reagan when he banned the guns that allegedly were used in Las Vegas.
    We will see but this is not the 80's, the 2nd Amendment movement has made great strides since then.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    <<<Didn't vote for Trump

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    Don't worry this is just Sandy Hook all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamp View Post
    Don't worry this is just Sandy Hook all over again.
    I suspect we will see this cycle, till those who are setting this up, decide they've gotten what they want.

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    They can talk about it all they want. Call me when the rubber meets the road.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Maybe it's time for some common-sense gun laws like banning barrel shrouds, and other shoulder things that go up
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    I am shocked.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




    Reprinted from http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/ [Nov. 29, 2011]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    <<<Didn't vote for Trump
    Congratulations, you're a Great American, unless you voted for Hillary!
    The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

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    Why would this be a surprise?

    His book documents his support of the AWB and dislike of the NRAint.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

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    The danger isn't that Republicans are going to pass gun control... in this political environment they won't.
    The danger is that Republicans will do nothing to advance the right to keep and bear arms using these tragedies as an excuse for their inaction.
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    Don't forget the explosives.

    We need to make them illegal too. Or more illegal, if they already are.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Don't forget the explosives.

    We need to make them illegal too. Or more illegal, if they already are.

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    We're going to find out two things very soon.
    First, we'll find out whether Trump is really the political mastermind everyone thinks he is. Because if he comes out in favor of even one more restriction, he's not. Gun control pulled out Bill Clinton's teeth... I'm not sure how even a nominal Republican can think himself immune.

    Second, we're going to find out whether his unmitigated support across the country is really without limits. He's going to say more stupid $#@! like this, and regardless whether he signs legislation, he's going to end up on the bad side of gun owners.
    Trump is absolutely a political mastermind. He knows the only time gun control has any support whatsoever is in the immediate aftermath of a major shooting, so what does he do? He says it is something we will talk about "latter". What happens latter? The normal dynamic returns and gun control doesn't have any popular support at all. Trump is doing the absolute smartest thing any pro-gun politician could be doing right now and some of you still criticize him for it.

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