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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    There appears to be serious memory-hole scrubbing going on. Now sites are claiming he never had a FB profile. My fiancee and I absolutely 100% laid eyes o this guy's profile. It's not showing in my history either except for one link they didn't manage to scrub:

    https://www.facebook.com/sdarcey/med...9901371&type=1

    which now goes nowhere of course. And wayback has no record of that or "sdarcey" at all.
    If the profile name was "sdarcey," what makes you think it was his profile?

    Could it have been someone else's talking about him (maybe posting things they regretted, deleting it...)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    I think the police are exaggerating the heck out of their response time to make themselves look better. But other than that, it's not really that far off.

    Some corrections.

    At full cyclic rate, an M-16 will fire 30 rounds in about 2.5 seconds.

    On a bumpfire rig, an AR-15 will fire 30 rounds in about 3 seconds.

    A fully automatic AK-47 will fire 30 rounds in about 3 seconds.

    The shooter sounded like he was shooting 40 round mags. Maybe even a 100 round drum or two.
    Yes. Thanks for the correction. That actually changes the scenario a bit. Out of a minute, 12-15 secs. are spent on fire and 45 seconds on reloading per minute. Almost 15 secs. a piece to reload is not unfathomable.

    I still think that that would be extraordinary for this particular individual, as reported, to have achieved what he did singly.

    But, it's not as far off base as I originally figured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Ok. Follow me here.

    This guy wasn't sharpshooting. It was "spray and pray." There were 58 casualties and 400 wounded. From 500 yrds., even in a densely packed crowd I'd say maybe a 2 for 1 on ammo usage. So, should have expended 1000rds.
    For one man to expend 1000rds, even at full auto or bumper stock, would require 33 high capacity, 30 rd. mags.
    33 mags divided by nine minutes is 3-4 mags a minute.
    To dump a 30rd. mag takes about 10 seconds. So out of a minute 40 seconds are eaten up with the actual firing leaving 20 seconds for 4 reloads at 5 secs. a piece.
    For a shooter that wouldn't be unheard of I suppose. To be able to do that and do that with any accuracy for a sustained 9 mins. would be phenominal. For a shooter.

    Does my math add up or am I totally off base?
    The mags seen in the some of the rifles and in the stack near the pillar are 100 round Surefires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    If the profile name was "sdarcey," what makes you think it was his profile?

    Could it have been someone else's talking about him (maybe posting things they regretted, deleting it...)?
    sdarcey was the profile name of his girl's ex-husband in Arkansas.
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b1e5c1c84ddd

    From 1976 to 1985, Paddock worked U.S. government jobs: as a letter carrier for the U.S. Postal Service, an agent for the IRS and an auditor for U.S. government’s Defense Contract Audit Agency, according to the Office of Personnel Management.
    Hmmm...
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    "The monarch is a responsible person. The fact that a monarch is responsible "to God alone," rather than to an assembly or a popular majority, is rather shocking to an agnostic mind; but while God cannot be fooled, the masses can. While it is perhaps true that "one cannot fool all the people all the time," it seems one can fool millions for centuries."

    -Ibid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fedupinmo View Post
    The mags seen in the some of the rifles and in the stack near the pillar are 100 round Surefires.

    Yeah. Thanks. Yours an Gunny's correction pretty much destroyed my theory.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Hard to make sense of this. Two questions for me that would lead to what's really going on.

    1. Is Mandalay Bay selling rooms right now?
    2. Did Mandalay Bay video surveillance ever go down/blip on Sunday night?

    The first would answer whether Paddock's room was the only one, and the second would answer if someone got away.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b1e5c1c84ddd

    At one point, Danley worked for an airline based out of California’s Bay Area, said a longtime neighbor in Reno. She later worked for Avon, the cosmetic sales company, and tried to sell their products to other residents, Elizabeth Tyee said. Danley traveled all the time, and when she was at the home she shared with Paddock in a retirement community in Reno, it was never for very long. Tyee said Danley would show up every three or four months and stay for no more than 10 days.
    When was she doing all this traveling? After she left the airline (as the sequence of the article implies)?

    This summer, Tyee saw Danley and Paddock moving a mattress and saw in their garage, which was completely empty. Tyee asked Danley whether they were moving, and Danley said they had bought a new house but were not moving out of Reno.

    Another neighbor, Susan Page, who moved next door to the couple this summer, said she had not seen them since August. Paddock had recently bought a new silver minivan, she said, and Danley drove an SUV. On the third week of August, Paddock left the house. Soon after, Danley packed up her car as well, as if she was moving, Page said.
    Something strange about that
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    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "The monarch is a responsible person. The fact that a monarch is responsible "to God alone," rather than to an assembly or a popular majority, is rather shocking to an agnostic mind; but while God cannot be fooled, the masses can. While it is perhaps true that "one cannot fool all the people all the time," it seems one can fool millions for centuries."

    -Ibid.

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    “Miracle” ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    “Miracle” ?

    Hey, they breached a little over an hour of commencement. C'mon that is a miracle!
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Ok. Follow me here.

    This guy wasn't sharpshooting. It was "spray and pray." There were 58 casualties and 400 wounded. From 500 yrds., even in a densely packed crowd I'd say maybe a 2 for 1 on ammo usage. So, should have expended 1000rds.
    For one man to expend 1000rds, even at full auto or bumper stock, would require 33 high capacity, 30 rd. mags.
    33 mags divided by nine minutes is 3-4 mags a minute.
    To dump a 30rd. mag takes about 10 seconds. So out of a minute 40 seconds are eaten up with the actual firing leaving 20 seconds for 4 reloads at 5 secs. a piece.
    For a shooter that wouldn't be unheard of I suppose. To be able to do that and do that with any accuracy for a sustained 9 mins. would be phenominal. For a shooter.

    Does my math add up or am I totally off base?
    It adds up as much as a 100 pound dork carrying 50 pounds of gear, weapons and ammo around as he mows down kids inside a brick and concrete school....
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    Went to the store came back to a live stream briefing. Not sure if I missed anything earth shattering.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrp12 View Post
    Went to the store came back to a live stream briefing. Not sure if I missed anything earth shattering.



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    I haven't looked at all the pictures yet, but they are saying this guy was firing with a bumpstock, but are showing guns with bipods? Yeah that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post

    I never entertain conspiracy theories, but this...is quite the coincidence.
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    I'm skeptical. Casinos are run like prisons in terms of around-the-clock surveillance. They didn't see him setting up his cameras? If we had a real FBI, they would be interrogating the security officials.

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    We got attacked by people from Saudi Arabia and they covered it up in the 9/11 report its hard to believe the official story. It would be far too easy to cover up the "motive" of the guy, now what "motive" the government has to cover up the gunman's "motive" is another argument all together. We should just assume that its a cover up until better information is available because right now there is not enough evidence to believe this official story. There should be a public investigation ah who am I kidding.

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    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    I never entertain conspiracy theories, but this...is quite the coincidence.
    With that many guns I can only assume that either he was supposed to kill a lot more people then he did and didn't follow through with it or just failed because he wasn't a good enough shot. This was either a hit that was covered up by a massacre like the malasian airlines flight or a way for the left to push for gun control. I can only assume that this is related to that because the Trump admin went out of their way to advocate his 2a positions. The Trump admin is tone deaf when it comes to not knowing that the public don't know what they know or they don't poll test their $#@! at all because they always advocate their positions based on the government intelligence instead of the political narrative that people are following on the news. Its like the left hand doesn't know what the right is saying.

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    http://www.newsweek.com/marilou-danl...-number-677033

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    Paddock's Girlfriend Used Two Social Security Numbers and Was Married to Two Men at the Same Time


    Marilou Danley, the live-in girlfriend of*Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock, and now a "person of interest" in the shooting investigation, is a Philippines native who has used two Social Security numbers during her two-plus decades*in the United States, and was married to two men at the same time, public records show.*
    The person who may hold*the key to solving the mystery of why the Vegas gunman killed*59 and wounded nearly 600 people led a convoluted life of her own, with two simultaneous husbands, a bankruptcy, two Social Security numbers, multiple addresses in several states and even different ages depending on which state records you review.


    The details are part of a*Newsweek investigation into Danley's past, which takes on a new urgency now that the FBI is frantically working to bring her "immediately" back from overseas for more information about the shooting and the $100,000 Paddock wired to her family there days before the shooting.

    The records show conflicting details under multiple identities:*
    Marilou came to the U.S. as Marilou Natividad, married Geary Danley in 1990 and took his surname. Danley, 76, lives in Arkansas, but he has declined to answer questions.
    In 1996, Marilou wed Jose Bustos, and*became Marilou Bustos. But she did not*dissolve her marriage to*Danley until*2015, divorce records*show.
    Both marriage licenses were filed in Clark County, which includes the city of Las Vegas, even though the Danleys*lived in Tennessee and Arkansas around the time of their marriage, and the Bustoses*lived in California. Marilou also has a*daughter, currently living in California, but it is unclear whether one of her husbands, or another man,*fathered*the child.
    In California, her name is registered as*Marilou Natividad-Bustos and her*birthday is listed as January 1962, making her 55 years old. Under a different Social Security number in Nevada, her name is Marilou Lou Danley and her*birthday is listed as December 1954, making her 62.*
    At times, her identities merged: Marilou filed for bankruptcy in 2012, under the name Bustos, while she was still married to Danley and living with Paddock in Reno. Her lawyer during the bankruptcy*has not yet responded to a request for comment. Marilou*travels back to California often to visit her daughter there, Reno neighbors told*Newsweek.*
    Marilou held multiple addresses, some simultaneously—in Arkansas, Tennessee, California, Florida and other states, and often moved through cities within those states.
    Though the police initially cleared*Marilou of any involvement in Sunday night's shooting, on Tuesday, Sheriff Joe Lombardo called her a "person of interest" in the investigation again at a briefing in Las Vegas.
    It is rare for an individual to have multiple Social Security numbers, though it is legal to get a new one issued if the first one has "been misused" in a way that caused hardship, a*2014 report*from the Social Security Administration said. There have been a few instances in which*new immigrants to the U.S. end up with two Social Security numbers: once*when they entered the country and once when they applied through an SSA office.*
    Newsweek has reached out to Marilou’s ex-husbands, family, and neighbors at her various residences. Two neighbors in Reno, who knew her under the name "Danley" while she lived with Paddock, on Monday*called her and Paddock*recluses who often left their home for extended periods of time.*
    A federal immigration*spokesperson declined to comment, citing Marilou's "privacy rights."*An FBI spokesperson referred questions to the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, which did not respond to a request for comment. The Social Security Administration did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    AFAIK its more financially imperative for them to watch for cheaters then put cams in hotel rooms. I have done work on their rooms in the last few years they don't even have cams in the hallways. Just the elevator maybe..

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    If you're going to become the most proficient mass murderer in U.S. history, why go through the trouble of outfitting your carbine with a bump fire stock? Sounds absolutely nonsensical if you ask me. The trigger conversion makes for a more controllable weapon and you can swap out for a thicker barrel. None of these reports make any sense. If I had to guess, this was a black ops operation with belt fed weapons.

    Even Tom Cotton agrees.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...ed-machine-gun

    “You know, when I hear those videos, it sounds to me like machine gun fire, a belt-fed machine gun, which is exceptionally hard to acquire in the United States, certainly linked ammunition as well,” the senator continued.

    “But we don’t know that for sure. I don’t think we have confirmation, yet, of the kinds of weapons that were used, and where he obtained them, and under the circumstances that he obtained them. So I think we have to gather all those facts before we make any conclusions.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    AFAIK its more financially imperative for them to watch for cheaters then put cams in hotel rooms. I have done work on their rooms in the last few years they don't even have cams in the hallways. Just the elevator maybe..
    Nobody is asking for camera footage from inside his room... parking lots, lobbies. That sort of thing...

    Most hotels have cameras in the halls of each floor. That footage would go a long ways in clearing some questions.

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    I promise you there is video of the hallway where that room is. It was right by a stairwell. There are video cameras all over every casino hotel in Las Vegas. They are not releasing it because the video does not fit the narrative. Dude did not have a motive, did not buy most of the weaponry you see there, and girlfriend was draining his accounts. I will almost lay odds he was dead before a shot ever went out the window.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I promise you there is video of the hallway where that room is. It was right by a stairwell. There are video cameras all over every casino hotel in Las Vegas. They are not releasing it because the video does not fit the narrative. Dude did not have a motive, did not buy most of the weaponry you see there, and girlfriend was draining his accounts. I will almost lay odds he was dead before a shot ever went out the window.
    I have never seen this before, granted I haven't done any work in the MB rooms in the last 3 years so they could of added cams to the hallways but before that it would of ended in the elevator.

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    FWIW, keep in mind that about five years ago the government repealed an anti-propaganda act, basically allowing them to get away with propagandizing the American public.

    This video talks a little bit about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I just saw a video of him from 2011 (?) in a casino, walking and falling down. <iframe src="https://www.nbcnews.com/widget/video-embed/1060281923682" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    https://www.nbcnews.com/video/las-ve...-1060281923682

    I think if they can find this relatively obscure video then they should be able to find more recent footage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I have never seen this before, granted I haven't done any work in the MB rooms in the last 3 years so they could of added cams to the hallways but before that it would of ended in the elevator.
    Yeah, I'm fairly sure they're in all the hallways in the upscale places these days.
    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.




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    Las Vegas Police Release Body Cam Footage From Night Of Shooting

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/las-vegas-police-release-body-cam-footage-night-shooting
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