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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I have trouble believing some guy firing two at once rambo style could make 60 kill shot and hit 550 others at that range.
    Really?! A max of 500 yards firing hundreds of rounds indiscriminately into a 320,000 sq. ft. mass of humanity on an asphalt lot? Remember, not all the 550 were hit. You don't think the ricochets and trampling could cause that kind of destruction?

    I question a lot of things about what happened here, but this seems pretty plausible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    For 72 minutes without being stopped? From a known location?

    I am a nobody, no military or law enforcement background. I could circled around to the backside of the building, rode an elevator, kicked in this guy door and killed him within 10-15 mins.

    It's awfully suspicious this went on so long.
    Once the shooting started SWAT couldn't do much according to a story I heard on TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    For 72 minutes without being stopped? From a known location?

    I am a nobody, no military or law enforcement background. I could circled around to the backside of the building, rode an elevator, kicked in this guy door and killed him within 10-15 mins.

    It's awfully suspicious this went on so long.
    That's bureaucracy for ya brother. Takes em so long to respond, because they're trained to take orders - not to respond. The gendarme can't think but in a "tactical" whole:



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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Really?! A max of 500 yards firing hundreds of rounds indiscriminately into a 320,000 sq. ft. mass of humanity on an asphalt lot? Remember, not all the 550 were hit. You don't think the ricochets and trampling could cause that kind of destruction?

    I question a lot of things about what happened here, but this seems pretty plausible.
    I'm no gun expert but isn't that is near the end of the effective range of a 5.56 round right? He was firing 5.56 with AR15 style rifles right?

    That is a lot of hits for some old guy spraying with 2 rifles at once. You have to figure after the first shots all the people are running and taking cover so moving targets, less target and people in defensive positions.

    Maybe I'm off, but it bothers me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Once the shooting started SWAT couldn't do much according to a story I heard on TV.
    I think that is awfully suspicious. They can see hundreds of people being shot, know the shooters position and do nothing for over an hour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I think that is awfully suspicious. They can see hundreds of people being shot, know the shooters position and do nothing for over an hour?
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    I hope there is another newscast today lauding the fine, excellent and heroic work of the first responders!!!!

    And what was kind of upsetting to me - and I understand why they do it - is that the first responders did not come into the area. Fire department, ambulance and that were all staged at a safe location because the area was not declared safe. And so everybody that was evacuated - the wounded, the deceased, et cetera - were all done by concert goers.

    SIEGEL: You had to bring them to the first responders, help them and bring them to the...

    LACY: A lot of the individuals died because there was no area for it. Once we got them to the staging area, there was no ambulances there. And so we were putting them in back of pickup trucks and cars and that. They were being taken to the hospital in private vehicles. We stayed there until 12:30, and they moved the cordon away from where - the staging area. And there was two deceased left in that area.

    But we were pretty good at getting all the individuals injured or deceased out to that area. I mean we used tables. We used beverage carts. We used fencing. You name it. Whatever we could use to - use as a stretcher to carry these people out, we did it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    The windows don't open. The easiest way to disprove this would be to look at the window. Is it broken out? No? Then there was no one shooting from that floor. (Unless, I suppose, if someone was outside the window repelling down from the roof with a machine gun or balancing on the ledge. Or, if this crafty assassin had a replacement window pane installed right after he was done killing.)

    Come on, people. Questioning the official story is good, but let's use some common sense.
    easiest way would be a drone. A drone could of done all of the kills, all of the firing and then even killed someone in their hotel room and framed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I'm no gun expert but isn't that is near the end of the effective range of a 5.56 round right? He was firing 5.56 with AR15 style rifles right?

    That is a lot of hits for some old guy spraying with 2 rifles at once. You have to figure after the first shots all the people are running and taking cover so moving targets, less target and people in defensive positions.

    Maybe I'm off, but it bothers me.
    You're talking point target range. But this guy wasn't hitting a point - he was firing into roughly 320,000 square feet!! And forget about "moving targets" - he wasn't targeting specific people... Just filling the 320,000 square foot area with round after round. You'd be better off trying to calculate the "empty" space versus the "occupied" space in the target area. When you do that, it's pretty clear that this would cause that kind of damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    The windows don't open. The easiest way to disprove this would be to look at the window. Is it broken out? No? Then there was no one shooting from that floor. (Unless, I suppose, if someone was outside the window repelling down from the roof with a machine gun or balancing on the ledge. Or, if this crafty assassin had a replacement window pane installed right after he was done killing.)

    Come on, people. Questioning the official story is good, but let's use some common sense.
    IF there was a second shooter, or IF the shooting was related to the flashing seen in the video, THAN it was a bigger operation than we are told it was.

    IF THAT is the case, a window that " doesn't open " is easily handled by the alphabet agencies and their friends. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I hope there is another newscast today lauding the fine, excellent and heroic work of the first responders!!!!



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    Wow, true heroism. Maybe they could have lured them in with the prospect of shooting some dogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    That's right.

    ...not something we 2nd amendment supporters want to hear, but right.

    The idea that the 'oi polloi should have the same weaponry as the army is quite insane.

    ...a relic of well intended but irrational Enlightenment thinking about the nature of the people (can't work against their own interests, etc).

    The people should be armed so as to defend themselves from criminals, not so as to overthrow the government,

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    Were there any drills in the area?

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    interesting perspective in light of the revelation that all long rifles were purchased legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    ^ You just need to switch to full/semi with the safety. No conversion required on an AR-15.
    Well, that and drill another hole and add the auto sear...

    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    That would explain the way it sounded. One with a bumpfire stock and one with a fully automatic conversion, would sound like an auto AK and an auto AR.
    You can't bump fire with one hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    interesting perspective in light of the revelation that all long rifles were purchased legal.
    If Deep State wanted to kill Christians, they'd set up some Somalian or Sudanese to kill em in church - not a concert in Las Vegas of all places. :P
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    Bannon issues a stark warning to Trump, in the event he emotionally falls for this false flag:

    I asked Steve Bannon*whether he could imagine Trump pivoting to the left on guns after the Las Vegas massacre. “Impossible: will be the end of everything,” Bannon texted. When asked whether Trump’s base would react worse to this than they would if he supported an immigration amnesty bill, Bannon replied: “as hard as it is to believe actually worse.”
    “Force the normies into taking sides. At the moment they are just like "meh, I am minding my own business" retreating culturally into their private bubbles and "safe-spaces" since they don't understand what is going on. When the actual "us vs them" starts, they will be forced to fight or they'll die.” - Anonymous Poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    There appears to be serious memory-hole scrubbing going on. Now sites are claiming he never had a FB profile. My fiancee and I absolutely 100% laid eyes o this guy's profile. It's not showing in my history either except for one link they didn't manage to scrub:

    https://www.facebook.com/sdarcey/med...9901371&type=1

    which now goes nowhere of course. And wayback has no record of that or "sdarcey" at all.
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    Sure seems like the number of firearms changes often. There were 59 people killed and ten times that injured. To me, it doesn't matter how many guns he used. Are we looking for shock value, or what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    The windows don't open. The easiest way to disprove this would be to look at the window. Is it broken out? No? Then there was no one shooting from that floor. (Unless, I suppose, if someone was outside the window repelling down from the roof with a machine gun or balancing on the ledge. Or, if this crafty assassin had a replacement window pane installed right after he was done killing.)

    Come on, people. Questioning the official story is good, but let's use some common sense.
    Honestly, I think it might have been a reflection of the lights from the stage across the street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Honestly, I think it might have been a reflection of the lights from the stage across the street.
    1. Those ~10th floor flashes showed up on multiple videos from multiple angles. That does not happen with reflections. One of those videos was shot from a moving cab, and there was no hint of distortion. Large windows are pretty much never mirror-flat, and even if they were a reflection would seem to move within the pane when seen from on the move.

    2. I still haven't seen a video where any muzzle flashes at all are detectable from the 32nd floor end room where the shooter allegedly was.
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    MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: Official story of Las Vegas shooting unravels; physical impossibility of lone gunman senior citizen makes narrative ludicrous


    It’s all hogwash. The “official” narrative of how things went down in the Las Vegas massacre is so full of holes that it begs the question of just how deep the truth about this attack really goes.

    What we know for sure is that, yes, 59 people were killed (so far) and hundreds were wounded. This wasn’t a “hoax” shooting — people actually were shot, wounded and killed (and our prayers go out to all their families for this horrific tragedy). Yet the official narrative that claims Stephen Paddock — a retired, 64-year-old accountant with absolutely no firearms training, no gun experience and no physical stamina — was somehow able to expertly wield a highly complex (and physically demanding) weapon system for 10 sustained minutes is total nonsense.

    Even highly trained Navy Seals would have a difficult time running a full auto weapon for 10 minutes straight. Such weapon systems are brutal on the operator. They require tremendous strength, stamina and expert troubleshooting to keep running. Full-auto weapons overheat and jam. They demand incredible strength to keep aimed on target. They require expert reloading and weapons clearing in the case of jams, and the hotel room would have been so full of smoke and powder residue that it would be almost impossible to keep breathing from that enclosed space.

    Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

    Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.

    Here are 10+ reasons why the official narrative is complete B.S.

    #1: As many as 10 rifles were found in his hotel room… but only one shooter?

    The NY Daily News is now reporting that Stephen Paddock “brought at least 10 weapons into a Las Vegas hotel room.”

    Why would a single shooter need 10 rifles? Managing just one full auto weapon system is so difficult that it’s probably beyond the physical capabilities of a 64-year-old retired accountant, which is what Paddock was.

    The fact that 10 rifles were found in his hotel room says three very important things:

    The rifles were staged for more than one shooter.
    The operation was extremely well funded.
    The attack took a tremendous amount of time to set up, because you don’t just walk 10 rifles up to your hotel room in a single trip.
    #2: As with many orchestrated shootings, the scapegoat was murdered before he could talk

    According to numerous media reports, Paddock was found dead in his hotel room, shot to death. The official narrative claims that he shot himself before the police breached the room, but that is an assumption, not an established fact. There is no evidence whatsoever that Paddock shot himself. It is simply assumed that he did so. I would ask to see the ballistics evidence of the shot that killed him.

    Isn’t it all convenient? There’s no one left to question, and they don’t even have to drug the guy into oblivion like they did the Aurora, Colorado shooter named James Holmes. Eliminating the scapegoat is the oldest trick in the book, as we were all reminded with the shooting of JFK.

    #3: Why are there no muzzle flashes visible from the 32nd-floor Mandalay Bay windows in any of the videos that captured the shooting?

    If you look at the shooting videos that have been posted online, none of them show any muzzle flashes from the room on the 32nd floor that we’ve been told is the source of the shooting. How can that be? The following video captures the sound of the automatic weapons fire — and even appears to capture at least TWO weapons firing simultaneously — yet shows no muzzle flashes from the 32nd floor windows of the Mandalay Bay hotel.



    In fact, the video below shows what might be muzzle flashes from a completely different location closer to the 5th floor. This same video also appears to show someone resembling Stephen Paddock attending an anti-Trump rally, wearing a so-called “pu##y hat” that was very popular among anti-Trumpsters. One working theory is that Paddock is an anti-Trump Leftist who specifically chose a Country Western event in order to murder as many conservatives as possible:



    #4 Why does the gunfire in multiple online videos clearly sound like automatic weapons fire from MULTIPLE weapons?

    I challenge anyone to listen to the gunfire in these online videos and conclude it’s only from a single weapon. The very idea is totally absurd. You can clearly hear at least two automatic weapons systems firing over each other.

    Listen to the automatic weapons fire at about the 2:00 mark in the video below. It’s clearly coming from multiple weapons:



    #5: ISIS has openly claimed responsibility for the attack, stating that Paddock “converted to Islam” months earlier

    As reported on Shootings.news, ISIS has already claimed responsibility for the Las Vegas shooting:

    Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a shooting that killed at least 50 people and wounded over 400 in Las Vegas early on Monday, and said the attacker had converted to Islam a few months ago.

    ISIS has a long track record of only claiming responsibility for events they inspired or planned. It would not be in the interests of ISIS to falsely claim credit for an attack they did not help carry out, as that would discredit their own supporters and funding sources.

    #6: Stephen Paddock had no familiarity with automatic weapons and no military training; was not a “gun guy”

    From Yahoo News:

    Saying his family was in shock, Paddock’s brother told US media he could not understand what motivated his elder brother.

    “Where the hell did he get automatic weapons? He has no military background or anything like that,” Eric Paddock told CBS News.

    “He’s a guy who lived in a house in Mesquite, drove down and gambled in Las Vegas. He did stuff. Eat burritos.”

    And from NY Daily News:

    Eric said his brother was typically no fan of such weaponry. “Not an avid gun guy at all,” Eric Paddock told CBS News outside his home in Waterford Lakes, Fla.

    #7: How does a 64-year-old accountant with no military training possess the strength and stamina to fire a fully automatic weapon for nearly 10 minutes?

    People who aren’t familiar with firearms have no idea how difficult it is to conduct sustained fire with an automatic weapon. It requires tremendous strength, endurance and training — something that Stephen Paddock had none of. Military special forces operatives train for years to be able to manage such weapons and handle all the problems they pose (barrel overheating, ammo jams, double feeds, recoil management, etc.). The idea that some senior citizen accountant can just pick up a machine gun and lay down thousands of rounds of effective fire in a sustained, 10-minute assault even though he had no experience with such weapons is completely ludicrous.

    It actually looks like someone else staged all the guns in the room, perhaps with Paddock’s willingness, then shot and killed Paddock to make him the scapegoat.

    Numerous media reports confirm that Paddock had no familiarity with guns and certainly didn’t have any experience with automatic weapons. Via the UK Daily Mail:

    Despite being found amid an arsenal of weapons, Eric said that his brother had never been ‘an avid gun guy at all’, adding that he was at a loss as to where Stephen got his arsenal of automatic weapons from.

    #8: Stephen Paddock was gambling away huge amounts of cash… where did he get all that money?

    According to NBC News, Paddock was engaged in high-stakes gambling to the tune of as much as $30,000 per day:

    On several occasions, Stephen Paddock gambled more than $10,000 per day — and in some cases more than than $20,000 and $30,000 a day — at Las Vegas casinos, according to an NBC News source who read the suspect’s Multiple Currency Transaction Reports (CTR) and a casino gaming executive.

    Was he paid to be part of an operation that would then be blamed on him by making him the scapegoat? Some media reports state that Paddock was a wealthy real estate investor. If that’s true, why would he blow all that wealth on gambling?

    #9: Stephen Paddock has no criminal history, no record and no apparent beef with anybody

    Further supporting the notion that Stephen Paddock was a scapegoat for all this,

    Via NY Daily News:

    …Paddock had no federal, state or local history with law enforcement before his Sunday night rampage that left 58 dead and more than 500 injured. “We had no knowledge of this individual,” said Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo. “We checked all the databases…”

    From the UK Daily Mail, we learn that Paddock had no affiliation with any particular activist group, political group or religious group as far as anyone knows:

    “…He added that his brother had ‘no political affiliation, no religious affiliation, as far as we know.”

    #10: The attack required meticulous planning, funding and training… it wasn’t some lone senior citizen who just “snapped”

    What’s clear from this attack is that it was planned, funded and coordinated. This was not some spontaneous “lone wolf” scenario; it involved multiple weapons being fired simultaneously, long-term planning, staging and financial logistics.

    The official narrative that claims this retired accountant just “snapped” and somehow picked up an automatic rifle and expertly laid down highly effective fields of automatic weapons fire for 10 minutes without pause is so insanely stupid as to be laughable.

    Only a highly-trained weapons expert with tremendous physical strength, stamina and training could have pulled this off. And that’s clearly not Stephen Paddock.

    #11: How was the FBI able to almost immediately declare Paddock had no ties to ISIS — barely 12 hours after the shooting — when the same agency has spent over a year investigating President Trump with zero evidence linking him to Russia, all while refusing to declare Trump has no ties to Russia?

    Finally, don’t you find it amazing how the FBI was able to clear any ISIS connection in less than 12 hours after the shooting? This is the same FBI, remember, that has spent over a year desperately trying to find a Russia conspiracy link to President Trump, yet has been unable to do with any legitimate evidence whatsoever. Yet more than year into their investigation, they refuse to clear President Trump of Russia collusion.

    Isn’t that interesting? Somehow, the FBI is so amazingly effective and efficient that they can conclude a massive investigation of Stephen Paddock in a mere 12 hours, yet they never quite seem to complete their investigation of President Trump.

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    That's a whole lot of speculation. The man made a lot of money in real estate. He had two homes. He was a high stakes gambler. I don't see anything conspiratorial about that. This whole thing just does not make sense, and I guess we will never really know the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Sure seems like the number of firearms changes often. There were 59 people killed and ten times that injured. To me, it doesn't matter how many guns he used. Are we looking for shaq value, or what?


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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    1. Those ~10th floor flashes showed up on multiple videos from multiple angles. That does not happen with reflections. One of those videos was shot from a moving cab, and there was no hint of distortion. Large windows are pretty much never mirror-flat, and even if they were a reflection would seem to move within the pane when seen from on the move.

    2. I still haven't seen a video where any muzzle flashes at all are detectable from the 32nd floor end room where the shooter allegedly was.
    People have cited the windows weren't broken anywhere but the 32nd Floor. . . well if this thing is as orchestrated as it appears,

    a window would not be a problem.

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    We have reached a whole new level of crazy-as-$#@!...

    I will wait for more data, video, and evidence before forming any conclusions, but suffice it to say I have enough, now, to conclude there is some serious questions that need answers. Those videos of muzzle flash from lower floors are insane. I am a firearms instructor... I shoot guns all the damn time, and it is not light reflections or a trick of the eye. Someone is shooting from a lower floor. The questions about the windows need answering, but the video is right there to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Bannon issues a stark warning to Trump, in the event he emotionally falls for this false flag:
    GOP doesn't really have any reasonable expectation that GOP prez is going to hang tough on immigration, as GOP often/typically doesn't.

    GOP does expect that GOP prez is not going to go after guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    We have reached a whole new level of crazy-as-$#@!...

    I will wait for more data, video, and evidence before forming any conclusions, but suffice it to say I have enough, now, to conclude there is some serious questions that need answers. Those videos of muzzle flash from lower floors are insane. I am a firearms instructor... I shoot guns all the damn time, and it is not light reflections or a trick of the eye. Someone is shooting from a lower floor. The questions about the windows need answering, but the video is right there to see.
    My understanding of the timeline is that the shooting started, then stopped, in less than 15 minutes. And then an hour passed. A lot can happen in an hour. Shooters can disappear, patsies can be found and framed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Can't we go a day without extreme conspiracy hypotheses?

    1. Every shooting incident has people saying there were multiple shooters. Always wrong. Plus there would be many echoes because of the surrounding buildings. Easily confused.

    2. Good question, if security did escort her out and others saw her, there should be more witnesses to this. We shall see.

    3. The author obviously knows nothing about guns. Best to leave gun speculation to people with knowledge on the subject.

    4. Witnesses say the gates were open and or down immediately. Concerts tend to have a lot of gates and fences.

    5. Once again, see 3 above.
    I was actually agreeing with the last sentence:

    I find the idea that a lone, elderly man would carry so many rifles to a hotel room for no practical reason to be highly suspicious. It makes no sense at all.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    'We maybe have to give up a little bit of our privacy,' says ex-NYC police head after Vegas shooting

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apos-...145312267.html
    What privacy do we still have???
    BEWARE THE CULT OF "GOVERNMENT"

    Christian Anarchy - Our Only Hope For Liberty In Our Lifetime!
    Sonmi 451: Truth is singular. Its "versions" are mistruths.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ChristianAnarchist

    Use an internet archive site like
    THIS ONE
    to archive the article and create the link to the article content instead.

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