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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    I am angry at myself for not screen-shotting this guy's facebook. I saw it with my own eyes but ruled him out early on. He was 100% absolutely bat-shirt lunatic lefty. He had it ALL OVER his profile like badges of honor. I should have known better and captured the screen shot.
    Would it still be on the wayback machine?



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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    That's a tall order.... I can't think of any mass gathering of people where there ISN'T some tall structure near by. Obviously the left will call for #GunControlNow.... and they will say we don't have any answers.... so what is the answer? Outside of having a counter-sniper setup in an overwatch position for every large crowd in America, what could be done to prevent this?

    The Gun used is most likely a LEGALLY purchased weapon, modified using a kit to make it automatic.
    Amazon caught selling illegal full auto parts in ATF sting op only a couple weeks ago!
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-09-...ny-crimes.html


    Quote Originally Posted by lilymc View Post
    I've been saying for years, the shootings are not going to stop until they get what they want; the same thing that happened in Australia and the UK.
    Yeah I think you're right. It's also no surprise (at least for those that study topics related to the occult) that this shooting is full of occult symbolism and numerology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Yeah I think you're right. It's also no surprise (at least for those that study topics related to the occult) that this shooting is full of occult symbolism and numerology.
    Look at the 13 on his neck:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Would it still be on the wayback machine?
    There appears to be serious memory-hole scrubbing going on. Now sites are claiming he never had a FB profile. My fiancee and I absolutely 100% laid eyes o this guy's profile. It's not showing in my history either except for one link they didn't manage to scrub:

    https://www.facebook.com/sdarcey/med...9901371&type=1

    which now goes nowhere of course. And wayback has no record of that or "sdarcey" at all.

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    Good Morning America
    Las Vegas shooting suspect's father was once one of FBI's Most Wanted

    Stephen Paddock, the suspected shooter in the attack on concertgoers in Las Vegas on Sunday that killed at least 58 and injured at least 515, was the son of a famous criminal.

    His estranged father, Benjamin Hoskins Paddock, was a notorious bank robber who spent years as one of the country’s most wanted fugitives.

    According to the Tucson Daily Citizen, the elder Paddock, also known as “Chromedome,” “Old Baldy,” and “Big Daddy,” was arrested in 1961 and accused of robbing more than $20,000 from several branches of Valley National Bank in Phoenix.

    While he was being arrested in Las Vegas, the newspaper reported, Paddock “attempted to run down an FBI agent with his car.”

    He escaped from prison, however, while serving a 20-year sentence at the Federal Correctional Institution in La Tuna, Tex., which landed him on the FBI’s “Ten Most Wanted Fugitive” list.

    A wanted poster circulated in 1969 described the elder Paddock as a “very dangerous” criminal.

    “Diagnosed as psychopathic,” the description reads. “Has carried firearms in commission of bank robberies. He reportedly has suicidal tendencies and should be considered armed and very dangerous.”

    He was removed from the list in 1977 and captured the following year in Oregon, where he was running a bingo parlor under the alias Bruce W. Ericksen.

    Stephen’s brother Eric confirmed his father’s identity and criminal history to ABC News, though he said the brothers “didn’t know him” and he died several years ago.
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    Brother: Las Vegas gunman was wealthy real-estate investor

    MESQUITE, Nev. (AP) — Stephen Paddock lived in a tidy Nevada retirement community where the amenities include golf, tennis and bocce. He was a multimillionaire real-estate investor, recently shipped his 90-year-old mother a walker and liked to travel to Las Vegas to play high-stakes video poker.

    Nothing in his background suggests why he would have been on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino with at least 17 guns on Sunday night, raining an unparalleled slaughter upon an outdoor country music festival below.

    "I can't even make something up," his bewildered brother, Eric Paddock, told reporters Monday. "There's just nothing."

    At least 59 people were killed and nearly 530 injured in Paddock's attack on the Route 91 Harvest Festival, where country music star Jason Aldean was performing for more than 22,000 fans. It was the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history. The 64-year-old gunman killed himself in the hotel room before authorities arrived.

    The Islamic State group claimed responsibility, without offering evidence, but Aaron Rouse, the FBI agent in charge in Las Vegas, said investigators saw no connection to international terrorism.

    Asked about a potential motive, Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said he could not "get into the mind of a psychopath at this point."

    Public records offered no hint of financial distress or criminal history. Eric Paddock, who spoke with reporters outside his home near Orlando, Florida, said even if his brother had been in financial trouble, the family could have bailed him out.

    "No affiliation, no religion, no politics. He never cared about any of that stuff," Eric Paddock said as he alternately wept and shouted. "He was a guy who had money. He went on cruises and gambled."

    Stephen Paddock, who had worked previously as an accountant and never served in the military, was "not an avid gun guy at all," though he had a couple of handguns and a long gun, he said.

    Eric Paddock also told The Associated Press that he had not talked to his brother in six months and last heard from him when Stephen checked in briefly by text message after Hurricane Irma.

    Their mother spoke with him about two weeks ago, and when he found out recently that she needed a walker, he sent her one, Eric Paddock said.

    "She's completely in shock," he said.

    Eric Paddock recalled receiving a recent text from his brother showing "a picture that he won $40,000 on a slot machine. But that's the way he played."

    He described his brother as a multimillionaire and said they had business dealings and owned property together. He said he was not aware that his brother had gambling debts.

    "He had substantial wealth. He'd tell me when he'd win. He'd grouse when he'd lost. He never said he'd lost four million dollars or something. I think he would have told me."

    Heavily armed police searched Paddock's home Monday in Mesquite, about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas near the Arizona border, looking for clues. Paddock lived there with his 62-year-old girlfriend, who authorities said was out of the country when the shooting happened. Eric Paddock described her as kindly and said she sometimes sent cookies to his mother.

    Police also searched a two-bedroom home Paddock owned in a retirement community in Reno, 500 miles from Mesquite.

    So far, Paddock doesn't seem like a typical mass murderer, said Clint Van Zandt, a former FBI hostage negotiator and supervisor in the bureau's behavioral science unit. Paddock is much older than the typical shooter and was not known to be suffering from a mental illness.

    "My challenge is, I don't see any of the classic indicators, so far, that would suggest, 'OK, he's on the road either to suicide or homicide or both," Van Zandt said.

    Nevertheless, his actions suggest that he had planned the attacks for at least a period of days.

    "He knew what he wanted to do. He knew how he was going to do it, and it doesn't seem like he had any kind of escape plan at all."

    While Stephen Paddock appeared to have no criminal history, his father was a notorious bank robber, Eric Paddock confirmed to The Orlando Sentinel. Benjamin Hoskins Paddock tried to run down an FBI agent with his car in Las Vegas in 1960 and wound up on the agency's most wanted list after escaping from a federal prison in Texas in 1968, when Stephen Paddock was a teen.

    The oldest of four children, Paddock was 7 when his father was arrested for the robberies. A neighbor, Eva Price, took him swimming while FBI agents searched the family home.

    She told the Tucson Citizen at the time: "We're trying to keep Steve from knowing his father is held as a bank robber. I hardly know the family, but Steve is a nice boy. It's a terrible thing."

    An FBI poster issued after the escape said Benjamin Hoskins Paddock had been "diagnosed as psychopathic" and should be considered "armed and very dangerous." He'd been serving a 20-year sentence for a string of bank robberies in Phoenix.

    The elder Paddock remained on the lam for nearly a decade, living under an assumed name in Oregon. Investigators found him in 1978 after he attracted publicity for opening the state's first licensed bingo parlor. He died in 1998.

    Stephen Paddock bought his one-story, three-bedroom home in a newly built Mesquite subdivision for $369,000, in 2015, property records show. Past court filings and recorded deeds in California and Texas suggest he co-owned rental property.

    He previously lived in another Mesquite — the Dallas suburb of Mesquite, Texas — from 2004 to 2012, according to Mesquite, Texas, police Lt. Brian Parrish. Paddock owned at least three separate rental properties, Parrish said, and there was no indication the police department had any contact with him over that time, Parrish said.

    He has been divorced at least twice, including marriages that ended in 1980 and 1990. One of the ex-wives lives in Southern California, where a large gathering of reporters congregated in her neighborhood. Los Angeles police Sgt. Cort Bishop said she did not want to speak with journalists. He relayed that the two had not been in contact for a long time and did not have children.

    According to federal aviation records, Paddock was issued a private pilot's license in November 2003. The Alaska Department of Fish and Game said he obtained three-day, nonresident fishing licenses in 2009 and 2010.

    In 2012, Paddock sued the Cosmopolitan Hotel & Resorts in Nevada, saying he slipped and fell on a wet floor there. The lawsuit was eventually dismissed by a judge and settled by arbitration.

    Reached by telephone, Paddock's lawyer at the time, Jared R. Richards, said he could not comment because of client confidentiality concerns.

    Paddock kept a vacation home in Heritage Isle, a gated retirement community in Viera, Florida, from 2013 to 2015, said Don Judy, his neighbor there. Judy said gambling, online and in person, was how Paddock claimed to make his living. One time, he said, Paddock showed Judy's wife his laptop as evidence that he had won $20,000 in an online game.

    "He never gave me any indication that he was strapped for money or needing money," Judy said. "He said he was a gambler by trade, a speculator."

    Judy described Paddock as "a real nice guy" who typically dressed in a polo shirt and shorts and didn't stand out among other part-time residents.

    "The second time I met him, he pulled out his keys and he gave me his house key," Judy said.

    When Paddock was away, Judy said, he would bring in his mail and the newspaper and walk through the house to make sure the air conditioning was working and that there wasn't any flood damage after storms.

    "He would call me every so often to ask if everything was OK with the house. Just so ordinary. ... There's nothing to profile this guy by."

    ___

    Johnson reported from Seattle. Associated Press writers Terrance Harris and Tamara Lush in Orlando, Florida; Jennifer Kay in Miami; Florida; Eric Tucker in Washington, D.C.; David Warren in Dallas; Michael Sisak in Philadelphia; Lindsay Whitehurst in Salt Lake City; Jeff Donn in Plymouth, Massachusetts; Sadie Gurman and Eric Tucker in Washington; and AP researcher Rhonda Shafner in New York contributed to this report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    There appears to be serious memory-hole scrubbing going on. Now sites are claiming he never had a FB profile. My fiancee and I absolutely 100% laid eyes o this guy's profile. It's not showing in my history either except for one link they didn't manage to scrub:

    https://www.facebook.com/sdarcey/med...9901371&type=1

    which now goes nowhere of course. And wayback has no record of that or "sdarcey" at all.
    Wait, Fiancee? Congrats Gunny.

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    Trying to dig through my browsing history on this, I am starting to bump my conspiracy paranoia a couple dozen points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Trying to dig through my browsing history on this, I am starting to bump my conspiracy paranoia a couple dozen points.
    I bet the 4Chan or Reddit people will have screenshots up soon. They were probably all over this once it broke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Havnes View Post
    I bet the 4Chan or Reddit people will have screenshots up soon. They were probably all over this once it broke.
    4chan had the identity pegged almost immediately upon te release of Marilou's name.

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    GOP still plans to vote on NRA-backed legislation that eases gun restrictions

    House Republicans are on track to advance legislation easing firearms rules, including a package of bills backed by the National Rifle Assn. that would make it easier to purchase silencers.

    The Sportsman's Heritage and Recreational Enhancement Act (SHARE Act) was introduced last month, and gun advocates hoped for swift passage. It would allow gun owners to transport registered firearms across state lines, carry guns in national parks and eliminate the $200 transfer tax on silencers.

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-las...htmlstory.html
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    I haven't been on here since last night and I don't have the time to go through 7 pages of comments so here's my take (as if anyone cared)...

    NONE of this adds up. The guy does not have any known "problems" in his past other than supposedly going through a divorce (hardly a reason to go and shoot up a bunch of strangers). The goons took over an hour to breach his door?? WTF?? Of course he supposedly committed suicide before they got to him so there's no way to see what he had to say...

    The whole thing stinks of "false flag" and I don't say that about every shooting by a long shot. You hear the automatic weapons fire and it sounds like a military action. The amount of ammo he must have gone through in that hour would be astounding. Imagine a 64 year old guy carrying all this up to his room. Would have filled several suitcases for sure (granted he was supposedly in that room for several days). Yes, it would have been possible to drag several suitcases up over several days but really, does that sound reasonable? Fully automatic weapons... Yes, even I can "convert" a semi-auto weapon to full auto but this guy reportedly didn't even have weapons in his home (according to a neighbor who watches the home when they were gone).

    So if not a deranged psyco on a shooting rampage, what then? How about a patsy? How about someone else takes this guy and knocks him out and shoots from an adjacent room (connecting?) and then breaks out windows in the guys room and plants all the weapons and shoots him in the head?? Then he walks out the front door of the casino like a tourist wondering what all the commotion is about? CIA? NSA? BATF??? The goonerment is the ones who benefit from this kind of action so they are my prime suspect...
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    yep, guy was in wrong place at wrong time. . . takes a bullet early.

    the shooting gallery is then open. . .

    they didn't get the shooting in Charlottesville they hoped for.as someone said, they wont stop till get what they want. . . or get what they deserve. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Number 1, don't have concerts near anything where a shooter can overlook the crowd.
    not a bad idea, however, that's going to create problems for concerts.

    How far away is far enough? No outdoor concerts anywhere you can see a window? I don't see that as practical, but it could be a consideration.

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    This happens again, and some former members of congress have been shot at, one not long ago, just fine with the way reality goes with weapon ownership, just madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    It's not.
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    Second shooter?

    Yes goofy, it is upside down. Read the upside down TODAY logo. Read the upside down time. Look at the curtains attached from the bottom of the windows to hanging upward to the top to flutter out the windows at the top.

    I thought maybe Danke had a specific reason for posting the photo upside down, like it revealed something.
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    Just how did some old guy manage to walk around with weapons into a hotel, Nevada still a wild west state, of well half of it since the other half is Native land, and technically the shooting took place in Shoshone country, not that the news happened to mention that.

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    I haven't posted in a while, politics and news have become so depressing I just tuned out.

    Anyway, I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but this incident has holes in it big enough to drive truck through. The biggest for me is that it takes 72 minutes to stop one shooter with a known location in a major city? I think not. I'm a nobody and I could have walked across the street kicked a door in and killed this old guy. You're telling me swarms of cops took over an hour to do it? Then he killed himself? This was allowed to happen or the guy is a patsy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I haven't posted in a while, politics and news have become so depressing I just tuned out.

    Anyway, I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but this incident has holes in it big enough to drive truck through. The biggest for me is that it takes 72 minutes to stop one shooter with a known location in a major city? I think not. I'm a nobody and I could have walked across the street kicked a door in and killed this old guy. You're telling me swarms of cops took over an hour to do it? Then he killed himself? This was allowed to happen or the guy is a patsy.
    where did you get the 72 minutes part?
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    People thinking this guy couldn't of done this alone are being deluded. Anyone that John was killed by the Communist guy.

    I think it is awful, how anyone should be allowed to own weapons like the ones this guy did. They are banned, yeah right, how did it get them then. I guess a dodgy soldier sold them to him, wish it was the black market story, oh, all the guns are gone, and now a crazy nut has killed all of these people, now that the second Amendment was repealed.

    A person can't make this $#@! up, ownership of weapons, any, is bad news. We know we live in a risky world with tech, but people need $#@! load of guns of any type. It just causes these awful problems, there was no war, no government involvement, it was a citizen who was able to use a weapon and did what he did. Its absolute madness.
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    The talking about about nationalizing the police is going to get really loud, some people were calling into the radio to say how good the local police responded because we will never forget 9/11 and how they will use this to co-opt our rights.

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    This is unbelievable. I know it was planted at his home...

    "NEW: Las Vegas Sheriff says 18 firearms, explosives, and several thousand rounds of ammo recovered from Vegas shooter's home."

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortne...ooter-n2389754
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    where did you get the 72 minutes part?
    Drudge headline that linked to one of the UK newspaper websites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    where did you get the 72 minutes part?
    Check drudge...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    I haven't been on here since last night and I don't have the time to go through 7 pages of comments so here's my take (as if anyone cared)...

    NONE of this adds up. The guy does not have any known "problems" in his past other than supposedly going through a divorce (hardly a reason to go and shoot up a bunch of strangers). The goons took over an hour to breach his door?? WTF?? Of course he supposedly committed suicide before they got to him so there's no way to see what he had to say...

    The whole thing stinks of "false flag" and I don't say that about every shooting by a long shot. You hear the automatic weapons fire and it sounds like a military action. The amount of ammo he must have gone through in that hour would be astounding. Imagine a 64 year old guy carrying all this up to his room. Would have filled several suitcases for sure (granted he was supposedly in that room for several days). Yes, it would have been possible to drag several suitcases up over several days but really, does that sound reasonable? Fully automatic weapons... Yes, even I can "convert" a semi-auto weapon to full auto but this guy reportedly didn't even have weapons in his home (according to a neighbor who watches the home when they were gone).

    So if not a deranged psyco on a shooting rampage, what then? How about a patsy? How about someone else takes this guy and knocks him out and shoots from an adjacent room (connecting?) and then breaks out windows in the guys room and plants all the weapons and shoots him in the head?? Then he walks out the front door of the casino like a tourist wondering what all the commotion is about? CIA? NSA? BATF??? The goonerment is the ones who benefit from this kind of action so they are my prime suspect...
    Pretty much my POV- something stinks, big time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    People thinking this guy couldn't of done this alone are being deluded. Anyone that John was killed by the Communist guy.

    I think it is awful, how anyone should be allowed to own weapons like the ones this guy did. They are banned, yeah right, how did it get them then. I guess a dodgy soldier sold them to him, wish it was the black market story, oh, all the guns are gone, and now a crazy nut has killed all of these people, now that the second Amendment was repealed.
    Anyone with basic mechanical skills and basic machine tools can convert an AR or AK to full auto fire. All they need to do is google it.

    Bigger problem with the story here is that you can't fire thousands of rounds out of a rifle without it getting red hot.

    So are we to believe this guy was swapping mags, swapping rifles and constantly firing all by himself all that time? I have serious doubts.

    Not to mention accuracy at that range. This guy made 60 kill shots and hit 500 people? It doesn't seem plausible.

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    I'm sure this guy must of done this, how do you know it was literally thousands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    I'm sure this guy must of done this, how do you know it was literally thousands?
    must have (or "must've")

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    White House: Gun control is ineffective and no one should talk about it

    “If you look to Chicago, where you had over 4,000 victims of gun-related crimes — they have the strictest gun laws in the country,” [Sanders] remarked. “That certainly hasn’t helped there, so when that time comes for those conversations to take place, I think we need to look at things that may actually have that real impact.”

    “The president has been clear,” she said. “He’s a strong supporter of the Second Amendment and I don’t have anything further at this point.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilymc View Post
    must have (or "must've")
    Don't teach him correct English, his illiteracy helps give him away as a troll.
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