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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    Supposedly, the guy was an anti-Trump, Antifa activist. Facebook already scrubbed his page, though.

    I say 'supposedly' because I've read it several times elsewhere.

    It could be wrong.
    I saw his page before they scrubbed it. I don’t think I screenshot his thought. 100% organizing for America Pro Obamacare Pro Hillary anti Trump batshirt whackjob lefty. Page was slap full of lefty bs



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    Doesn't this make his fb public record? Pretty sure its a felony to scrub that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    How'd he get all of those guns through the lobby of the hotel, anyway? I've broken guns down, but they don't all break all the way down. He has long guns in there. And they only have that one little cart for your stuff at the hotels. And gun cases look like gun cases.
    He could have put them in guitar cases and nobody would have thought anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    CBS vice president of strategic transactions, Hayley Geftman-Gold - “I’m actually not even sympathetic bc country music fans often are Republican gun toters,” Geftman-Gold’s comments read.

    Sigh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    How'd he get all of those guns through the lobby of the hotel, anyway? I've broken guns down, but they don't all break all the way down. He has long guns in there. And they only have that one little cart for your stuff at the hotels. And gun cases look like gun cases.
    There is no xray in the Mandalay Bay lobby, people bring in all kinds of stuff to their rooms in different luggages they didn't even have cameras in the hallways AFAIK and that was only a couple years ago.

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    "Stephen Paddock worked for a predecessor company of Lockheed Martin from 1985 until 1988," the company tells ABC in a statement. "We’re cooperating with authorities to answer questions they may have about Mr. Paddock and his time with the company."

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/las-vegas-...opstories.html

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    White House: Now not time to debate gun control

    President Trump’s top spokesperson said the aftermath of the mass shooting in Las Vegas is not the time to restart a debate over the nation’s gun laws.

    “There’s a time and place for a political debate, but now is the time to unite as a country,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters on Monday.

    Pressed about whether it’s appropriate to discuss new gun laws, Sanders said “it would be premature for us to discuss policy” when all the facts of Sunday night’s shooting are not yet known.

    More at: http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...te-gun-control
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    Five things that just don’t add up about the Las Vegas mass shooting

    #1) Dozens of concert-goers reported the presence of multiple shooters

    Although law enforcement says there was only one shooter, multiple witnesses are openly reporting the presence of multiple shooters. This could reasonably be the result of confusion and chaos, but it’s also highly suspicious that the shooter had “full auto” weapon which is usually limited to law enforcement or military personnel.

    This question about multiple shooters was also raised after the Aurora, Colorado “Batman movie theater” shooting, in which numerous witnesses reported the presence of multiple shooters.

    If this shooting was carried out by multiple shooters, it would obviously indicate planning and coordination among a group of people who sought to carry out the shooting for a political purpose of some kind.

    #2) Who warned concert-goers they were “all going to die” a full 45 minutes before the shooting started?

    Via the UK Express:

    One woman, who was at the Route 91 music event, claimed an unidentified woman had told other concert-goers they were “all going to die” after pushing her way to the front of the venue.

    The witness, 21, told local news: “She had been messing with a lady in front of her and telling her she was going to die, that we were all going to die.

    “They escorted her out to make her stop messing around with all the other people, but none of us knew it was going to be serious.”

    She described the lady as Hispanic. The lady was escorted from the venue along with a man.

    The unnamed witness, who was attending the event on her 21st birthday, described the pair as short, both around 5 ft 5ins to 5ft 6ins tall, and looked like “everyday people”.

    It’s clear that neither of these two people were the shooter, as the shooter is a much taller Caucasian man. Thus, this is not a “lone gunman” massacre. There was coordination. At least three people were aware this shooting was about to take place.

    #3) The weapon you hear on videos was FULL AUTO, which is almost impossible to acquire through legal means

    The multitude of videos that captured the event clearly indicate that at least one shooter was running a full auto weapons system. Such weapons are almost impossible for “civilians” to acquire. Although some pre-1986 full auto weapons are available for sale, they require extensive ATF documentation, background checks and extremely long wait periods approaching one year. Plus, they tend to cost $25,000 or more, and they’re extremely rare.

    Full auto weapons, however, are widely owned by police officers, federal officials and military organizations. It will be very interesting to find out where this weapon came from and how it was acquired.

    #4) Why were the exits blocked, trapping victims like rats in a maze?

    Numerous reports from witnesses who were on the scene reveal that nearly all the exits were blocked. One witness described the situation as “being caught like a rat in a maze” with numerous “dead ends.”

    Why were nearly all the exits blocked? In essence, the concert created a kill zone that amplified the casualties. So far, according to the Clark County Sheriff in Vegas, 515 people have been injured and 59 people have so far died. These are unthinkable numbers, approaching war-time casualty counts. It’s clear from the coverage that this shockingly high body count would not have been possible if people had been free to flee the concert venue.

    In essence, the concert trapped the people, preventing them from escaping, and denying them the ability to seek cover. From there, sustained, full-auto gunfire is almost impossible to survive.

    In addition, once the shooting started, the stage lights were turned to the crowd, lighting up the crowd and making them an easier target for the shooter(s). Was this deliberate?

    #5) Why did the shooter have as many as 10 firearms in his room?

    According to news reports, the shooter — identified as Stephen Paddock — had as many as 10 firearms in his room, including several rifles. If he was the only shooter, what’s the point of having so many rifles? One man can obviously only shoot one rifle, and since he had a full auto rifle, he could obviously achieve his evil aims by focusing on his one rifle. There was no need for him to have multiple rifles.

    So were the other rifles brought to the room to “stage” the crime scene with an abundance of guns? Why would one elderly man bother to carry 8 – 10 weapons to a hotel room in the first place? That’s a lot of work. Rifles aren’t lightweight devices.

    I find the idea that a lone, elderly man would carry so many rifles to a hotel room for no practical reason to be highly suspicious. It makes no sense at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Created4 View Post
    Five things that just don’t add up about the Las Vegas mass shooting

    #1) Dozens of concert-goers reported the presence of multiple shooters

    Although law enforcement says there was only one shooter, multiple witnesses are openly reporting the presence of multiple shooters. This could reasonably be the result of confusion and chaos, but it’s also highly suspicious that the shooter had “full auto” weapon which is usually limited to law enforcement or military personnel.

    This question about multiple shooters was also raised after the Aurora, Colorado “Batman movie theater” shooting, in which numerous witnesses reported the presence of multiple shooters.

    If this shooting was carried out by multiple shooters, it would obviously indicate planning and coordination among a group of people who sought to carry out the shooting for a political purpose of some kind.

    #2) Who warned concert-goers they were “all going to die” a full 45 minutes before the shooting started?

    Via the UK Express:

    One woman, who was at the Route 91 music event, claimed an unidentified woman had told other concert-goers they were “all going to die” after pushing her way to the front of the venue.

    The witness, 21, told local news: “She had been messing with a lady in front of her and telling her she was going to die, that we were all going to die.

    “They escorted her out to make her stop messing around with all the other people, but none of us knew it was going to be serious.”

    She described the lady as Hispanic. The lady was escorted from the venue along with a man.

    The unnamed witness, who was attending the event on her 21st birthday, described the pair as short, both around 5 ft 5ins to 5ft 6ins tall, and looked like “everyday people”.

    It’s clear that neither of these two people were the shooter, as the shooter is a much taller Caucasian man. Thus, this is not a “lone gunman” massacre. There was coordination. At least three people were aware this shooting was about to take place.

    #3) The weapon you hear on videos was FULL AUTO, which is almost impossible to acquire through legal means

    The multitude of videos that captured the event clearly indicate that at least one shooter was running a full auto weapons system. Such weapons are almost impossible for “civilians” to acquire. Although some pre-1986 full auto weapons are available for sale, they require extensive ATF documentation, background checks and extremely long wait periods approaching one year. Plus, they tend to cost $25,000 or more, and they’re extremely rare.

    Full auto weapons, however, are widely owned by police officers, federal officials and military organizations. It will be very interesting to find out where this weapon came from and how it was acquired.

    #4) Why were the exits blocked, trapping victims like rats in a maze?

    Numerous reports from witnesses who were on the scene reveal that nearly all the exits were blocked. One witness described the situation as “being caught like a rat in a maze” with numerous “dead ends.”

    Why were nearly all the exits blocked? In essence, the concert created a kill zone that amplified the casualties. So far, according to the Clark County Sheriff in Vegas, 515 people have been injured and 59 people have so far died. These are unthinkable numbers, approaching war-time casualty counts. It’s clear from the coverage that this shockingly high body count would not have been possible if people had been free to flee the concert venue.

    In essence, the concert trapped the people, preventing them from escaping, and denying them the ability to seek cover. From there, sustained, full-auto gunfire is almost impossible to survive.

    In addition, once the shooting started, the stage lights were turned to the crowd, lighting up the crowd and making them an easier target for the shooter(s). Was this deliberate?

    #5) Why did the shooter have as many as 10 firearms in his room?

    According to news reports, the shooter — identified as Stephen Paddock — had as many as 10 firearms in his room, including several rifles. If he was the only shooter, what’s the point of having so many rifles? One man can obviously only shoot one rifle, and since he had a full auto rifle, he could obviously achieve his evil aims by focusing on his one rifle. There was no need for him to have multiple rifles.

    So were the other rifles brought to the room to “stage” the crime scene with an abundance of guns? Why would one elderly man bother to carry 8 – 10 weapons to a hotel room in the first place? That’s a lot of work. Rifles aren’t lightweight devices.

    I find the idea that a lone, elderly man would carry so many rifles to a hotel room for no practical reason to be highly suspicious. It makes no sense at all.
    Same.

    Looks like alphabets and possible medication situation.

    And RP just warned about false flags.
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    It was probably a bump fire stock and a 100 round drum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    That would be a huge room.
    He was, based on something I read, known to spend large amounts of money gambling in Vegas.
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    From Zero Hedge:





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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    Who knows. First of all, it's upside-down.
    Second, there's obviously an external elevator track between those windows, so unless each of those rooms has dedicated elevator access, then they're different rooms.
    Incorrect. It's one room. Video of that exact room is online. It's a large room that runs a long length.
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    Gun Free Zone

    Weapons of any type (guns, knives, nightsticks, mace, pepper spray, stun guns etc.)are strictly prohibited on Mandalay Bay property. Federal, State and local law enforcement agencies may carry weapons on Mandalay Bay property in the performance of their official duties. These agencies must contact Mandalay Bay Security Management prior to arriving on property.



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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    There will always be killers among us and if determined enough they could kill just as many people without a gun as was killed at this venue.

    You can reduce the risk of mass shootings like this by removing restrictions on concealed carry. If everyone was armed at that concert less people would have died. The shooter would have had to take cover or been killed from return fire. Gun control killed those people. Every politician responsible for these laws has blood on their hands.
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I would have hated to be a guest in that hotel in one of the other rooms if there was a concert full of drunk rednecks returning fire at a 10th? story hotel room.
    Gun control is not the answer. There would still be less than 58 dead and 515 injured if the folks were armed. Even if security had sniper rifles the count would have been less.

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    From the ongoing press conference with the Las Vegas Police Chief Lombardo

    --Now reporting 16 guns in the room

    --Ammonium nitrate found in car

    --Sheriff asked about report that shooter worked for federal agency, "can neither confirm nor deny"
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    -Ibid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    ..

    --Sheriff asked about report that shooter worked for federal agency, "can neither confirm nor deny"
    Have not seen this in any other reports. I think some UK media reports said he worked for major military weapons supplier Lockheed Martin.



    In other news:


    Gun-maker stocks rally after mass shooting in Las Vegas

    Oct 2, 2017 3:48 p.m. ET
    Smith & Wesson parent American Outdoor shares jump over 3% in afternoon trade


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    Shares of gun makers rallied Monday, in the wake of what has been described as the deadliest mass shooting on U.S. soil.
    Smith & Wesson parent American Outdoor Brands Corp.’s stock AOBC, +3.21% jumped 3.0% in afternoon trade. Volume topped 3.7 million shares, compared with the full-day average over the past 30 days of 2.1 million shares.

    Sturm, Ruger & Co. Inc. shares RGR, +3.48% climbed 2.7% and Vista Outdoor Inc. shares VSTO, +2.44% ran up 1.8% toward a 6-week high.

    Read: At least 58 killed and more than 515 injured in mass shooting at Las Vegas concert.
    Analysts say the regulatory environment is among the biggest drivers of demand for guns, as fears of tighter regulation have boosted gun sales and share prices in the past. Since President Trump was elected, however, fears of tighter regulations have faded and share prices have dropped.

    See also: Smith & Wesson’s stock drops as Trump’s surprise win saps demand.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gun...gas-2017-10-02

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Have not seen this in any other reports. I think some UK media reports said he worked for major military weapons supplier Lockheed Martin.
    I'll post the video when I find it, just saw it live.

    As for Lockheed, yes, it's been reported he worked for them in the 80s.

    I think I just heard someone say that he still worked for them.
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

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    "The monarch is a responsible person. The fact that a monarch is responsible "to God alone," rather than to an assembly or a popular majority, is rather shocking to an agnostic mind; but while God cannot be fooled, the masses can. While it is perhaps true that "one cannot fool all the people all the time," it seems one can fool millions for centuries."

    -Ibid.

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    Here's a creepy series of posts from Sept 10 on 4chan



    thread archive: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/threa...258/#141100963
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    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "The monarch is a responsible person. The fact that a monarch is responsible "to God alone," rather than to an assembly or a popular majority, is rather shocking to an agnostic mind; but while God cannot be fooled, the masses can. While it is perhaps true that "one cannot fool all the people all the time," it seems one can fool millions for centuries."

    -Ibid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Any bets on whether this thing was engineered for the purpose of political gain?
    Of course. It has all the hallmarks of a political Mossad style false flag for purposes of disarmament and moar police state.

    Anybody remember this? Bizarre story of sniper at Trump rally in TX
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    Lady Gaga, Ariana Grande, Julianne Moore, and other celebrities call for gun control in wake of Las Vegas mass shooting

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...175207007.html
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    Just for the record, 99% of the time I say "In my country........" I am actually messing with you people because I know you guys have absolutely no idea what happens in my country.

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    If the shooter loved trump it would be on the front page of CNN and Zippy would make sure we know about it
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Of course. It has all the hallmarks of a political Mossad style false flag for purposes of disarmament and moar police state.

    Anybody remember this? Bizarre story of sniper at Trump rally in TX
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...rump-rally-vid
    I've been saying for years, the shootings are not going to stop until they get what they want; the same thing that happened in Australia and the UK.
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    I am angry at myself for not screen-shotting this guy's facebook. I saw it with my own eyes but ruled him out early on. He was 100% absolutely bat-shirt lunatic lefty. He had it ALL OVER his profile like badges of honor. I should have known better and captured the screen shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    I am angry at myself for not screen-shotting this guy's facebook. I saw it with my own eyes but ruled him out early on. He was 100% absolutely bat-shirt lunatic lefty. He had it ALL OVER his profile like badges of honor. I should have known better and captured the screen shot.
    It'll turn up.
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "The monarch is a responsible person. The fact that a monarch is responsible "to God alone," rather than to an assembly or a popular majority, is rather shocking to an agnostic mind; but while God cannot be fooled, the masses can. While it is perhaps true that "one cannot fool all the people all the time," it seems one can fool millions for centuries."

    -Ibid.

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