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    Default [59 Dead] "Active Shooter" in Las Vegas, fully automatic rifle fire, at least 2 rifles heard.



    I can hear two different automatic rifles firing, the first is clearly an AK-47, the second sounds like a fully automatic converted AR-15.
    Last edited by GunnyFreedom; 10-02-2017 at 12:45 AM.



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    Two rifles, maybe from different angles (sound had a different character, may have been just a video artifact)

    Fully automatic rounds, several hundred rounds fired. No reports on killed or wounded as of yet. I did see a video of an eye witness claiming that someone was giving someone CPR.

    It remains vaguely possible that these are sound effects or firing blanks, and the person receiving CPR had a heart attack or got trampled. Unlikely but possible.

    We will know more as reports on injuries come out.

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    I thought the Mafia kept Vegas clean?
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    2 dead, 24 wounded as reported by ABC from one hospital so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    2 dead, 24 wounded as reported by ABC from one hospital so far.
    As many rounds as I heard I expect these numbers will increase. Even "spray and pray" ~200 to 300 rounds into a crowd that big is going to yield more casualties than that.

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    They're saying it's the largest mass shooting in history.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Latest brief says at least 50 dead, 200+ injured.

    That's gotta be the worst mass shooting in US history.
    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    They're saying it's the largest mass shooting in history.
    Quite possible that this was his only motivation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Quite possible that this was his only motivation.
    Reminds me of that old Warrant song, "Andy Warhol Was Right." Almost to the lyric.
    Last edited by Natural Citizen; 10-02-2017 at 10:42 AM.



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    ABC homosexual just asked a witness to describe his emotions.

    The corporate media helping to heighten and condition the public's fear level and sensitivity.
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    New video on Instagram. Rounds clearly sound like they are coming towards the camera. You can hear the 'snap' after the reports.

    It'd be kinda hard to blow this one out of proportion, it's pretty horrific all on it's own.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BZvBP0-H..._kindred_girl_

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BZvBP0-H..._kindred_girl_

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    Frontpage news here already.
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    It's ok. I heard they're all crisis actors.


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    Karnac prediction:

    Before 10:00AM this morning, the memo will go out throughout the corporate media whether Trump's mean rhetoric has played a role in this event.

    then:

    Before 10:00PM tonight, the memo will go out criticising Trump's response as being too focused on Puerto Rico than on LV because Nevada voted Hillary.
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    "You're a far more horrible person than she (Bristol Palin) will ever be." angelatc

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Karnac prediction:

    Before 10:00AM this morning, the memo will go out throughout the corporate media whether Trump's mean rhetoric has played a role in this event.

    then:

    Before 10:00PM tonight, the memo will go out criticising Trump's response as being too focused on Puerto Rico than on LV because Nevada voted Hillary.
    And certain people here will believe those stories because they can't forgive Trump for enforcing immigration law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And certain people here will believe those stories because they can't forgive Trump for enforcing immigration law.
    Don't leverage a tragedy for political gain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Don't leverage a tragedy for political gain...
    I'm not, they are the ones who will do that, just like the Puerto Rico tragedy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm not, they are the ones who will do that, just like the Puerto Rico tragedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Don't leverage a tragedy for political gain...
    For real. This isn't football ffs

    What's the deal though, I thought the mafia kept Vegas "clean" from this kind of thing. Made sure everyone vented their rage in the desert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Karnac prediction:

    Before 10:00AM this morning, the memo will go out throughout the corporate media whether Trump's mean rhetoric has played a role in this event.

    then:

    Before 10:00PM tonight, the memo will go out criticising Trump's response as being too focused on Puerto Rico than on LV because Nevada voted Hillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    trump will sign sweeping gun control legislation which will sail through both houses in a bipartisan effort.
    I think the bigger threat is some kind of "Anti-terror" Patriot Act 2.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    trump will sign sweeping gun control legislation which will sail through both houses in a bipartisan effort.
    Or we will be told: Russia did it/NORKs did it/Assad did it/Cuba did it, etc. so we must invade X and maybe even Y and Z.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    trump will sign sweeping gun control legislation which will sail through both houses in a bipartisan effort.
    Better get your BB guns and smooth bore hunting muskets while you can.
    Last edited by oyarde; 10-02-2017 at 06:52 AM.

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    Jason Aldean is unhurt.

    Unfortunately, country music was pronounced dead a long time ago.

    Which is my segue into the rhetorical question....

    What type of shooter would target this particular demographic?
    Last edited by sparebulb; 10-02-2017 at 01:42 AM.
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    That's awful.

    I hope there's no knee-jerk reaction from the right to try to increase gun rights.
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    Supposedly, the guy was an anti-Trump, Antifa activist. Facebook already scrubbed his page, though.

    I say 'supposedly' because I've read it several times elsewhere.

    It could be wrong.
    Last edited by Natural Citizen; 10-02-2017 at 06:33 AM.



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    What a sad shock news to wake up to, saw a blip on ABC news late night that gave the impression just few people were injured and was not major incidence like it is being reported now.


    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    Supposedly, the guy was an anti-Trump, Antifa activist. Facebook already scrubbed his page, though.

    I say 'supposedly' because I've read it several times elsewhere.

    It could be wrong.
    Early reporting can be incomplete/inaccurate often. All the headlines are reporting it as a regular shooting or massacre, going by that probably shooter did not have any political motivations or it would have been reported as a "terrorist" shooting.
    There was different incidence in Canada yesterday were two women were stabbed by suspected terrorist.

    Just saw this on Drudge report:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    Supposedly, the guy was an anti-Trump, Antifa activist. Facebook already scrubbed his page, though.

    I say 'supposedly' because I've read it several times elsewhere.

    It could be wrong.
    I saw his page before they scrubbed it. I don’t think I screenshot his thought. 100% organizing for America Pro Obamacare Pro Hillary anti Trump batshirt whackjob lefty. Page was slap full of lefty bs

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    That's awful.

    I hope there's no knee-jerk reaction from the right to try to increase gun rights.
    I need some machine guns and I should not have to buy permits .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    That's awful.

    I hope there's no knee-jerk reaction from the right to try to increase gun rights.
    I hate to be the one to break it to you, but one off duty police officer was killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I hate to be the one to break it to you, but one off duty police officer was killed.
    That's horrible, who would do such a thing? This is the worst tragedy since those five Officers died in that shooting in Dallas last year
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