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Thread: Copy of facebook debate in winter 2008 with Hillary Clinton and Huckabee and Ron Paul?

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    Default Copy of facebook debate in winter 2008 with Hillary Clinton and Huckabee and Ron Paul?

    Hello,

    Has anyone a copy of that debate in winter 2008? I have been looking for years... Asking again here. It was deleted everywhere...

    It was Obama vs Hillary vs Ron Paul vs Huckabee.

    Obama was the worst and I guess he made sure the video was deleted.



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    I've found references to it, its a February debate, but not the video itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    I've found references to it, its a February debate, but not the video itself.
    that video is worth gold... cannot find it. The debate format was canned because people could react in real time about what politicians said. Obama was a total loser without a teleprompter.

    Is there a thread on this forum about it?

    Found it

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdi...ntial-Dialogue
    Last edited by Mordan; 09-30-2017 at 03:24 AM.

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    These videos are all deleted ...



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    The wayback machine still has snapshots w/comments but no video - https://web.archive.org/web/20080208...?v=-o5dNXeE2FE
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    When looking for something the search engines want to surpress, you'll never get anywhere by using the wrong terms. Like, for example, typing facebook instead of myspace. If google wants it buried, you can't even misspell anything and expect results.

    2/3 of the way down the page.

    http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.c...ebruary08.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Ron is wrong...

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    No Obama however. Even the Wayback machine does not have any snapshots of the videos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    No Obama however. Even the Wayback machine does not have any snapshots of the videos.
    Memory Holed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Van Dyke
    Last night CNN International CNN gave me ten minutes live to talk about Bernie Sanders who has been scantily covered by them in favor of the Donald J. Trump circus. It was pre-empted completely to cover another outburst by Trump. This pandering to the scandal hungry public is a total lack of responsible journalism. I accuse CNN of extreme bias.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Ron is wrong...

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    I tried searching outside site:youtube, and I got nothing. I tried Scholar.google, still nothing. I tried searching inside a multitude of vid hosts, and I got nothing. Once youtube wipes their servers, then the vids seem good as gone - unless anybody knows about a youtube converter that actually keeps cached vids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    I tried searching outside site:youtube, and I got nothing. I tried Scholar.google, still nothing. I tried searching inside a multitude of vid hosts, and I got nothing. Once youtube wipes their servers, then the vids seem good as gone - unless anybody knows about a youtube converter that actually keeps cached vids?
    There are links to mtv.com on reddit which is where the videos were posted originally - https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/co..._no/?limit=500

    It might be as simple as contacting them. Using FOIA might work too. Candidate Obama etc .....
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    I guess we can't say they've technically been wiped, until we've asked MTV for copies.

    Yes, asking for the sake of Obama is a good spin. Maybe that's the way to go.

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    There is also CPD - http://www.debates.org/ , FEC - https://www.fec.gov/, EFF -https://www.eff.org/ and Ron Paul campaign might have a copy too.
    Last edited by timosman; 09-30-2017 at 09:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    When looking for something the search engines want to surpress, you'll never get anywhere by using the wrong terms. Like, for example, typing facebook instead of myspace. If google wants it buried, you can't even misspell anything and expect results.

    2/3 of the way down the page.

    http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.c...ebruary08.html
    yea my bad. in my mind it was facebook. Hopefully a forum member corrected me in this thread.

    it was an very good format.. Hillary did actually well compared to Obama.

    Obama is a liberal god and no fan site saved the video? must have very bad performance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    Hello,

    Has anyone a copy of that debate in winter 2008? I have been looking for years... Asking again here. It was deleted everywhere...

    It was Obama vs Hillary vs Ron Paul vs Huckabee.

    Obama was the worst and I guess he made sure the video was deleted.
    OK, the videos have been found. What are we looking for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    OK, the videos have been found. What are we looking for?
    have they? wow

    all of it, except Huckabee lol..

    well i especially want Obama.

    EDIT: ok i see them.. going to download them first then will look into it.

    EDIT: i hacked the site but can't download the feed.. that's rare.

    EDIT 3: i tried chrome with flash video downloader and it downloads an empty video ...
    Last edited by Mordan; 10-02-2017 at 12:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    have they? wow

    all of it, except Huckabee lol..

    well i especially want Obama.

    EDIT: ok i see them.. going to download them first then will look into it.

    EDIT: i hacked the site but can't download the feed.. that's rare.

    EDIT 3: i tried chrome with flash video downloader and it downloads an empty video ...
    Maybe you should locate your head first?
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