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Last edited by Voluntarist; 07-27-2018 at 10:33 PM.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you post to the internet can and will be used to humiliate you.
Struck a nerve, did I? Thanks for the neg - I love knowing I got under your skin by pointing out your hypocrisy.
You're busted. You joined in 2007, saw there was a market for conspiracy news, and now you pay the bills by spreading half truths and outright lies.
COconut oil - the snake oil of the 21st century!
Last edited by angelatc; 09-30-2017 at 06:27 PM.
There are no MDs who suggest spacing vaccines out over 9 years. None. Zero. Zip.
And I didn't say there weren't any MDs who space out vaccines. There are, even though there's no medical evidence that vaccines are harmful at an early age. I said she didn't have science to rely on. Her words. She "educated herself" on Google.
9 years of listening to her yammer on about the nonsense, her hushand finally decided to man up.
Last edited by angelatc; 09-30-2017 at 06:32 PM.
There are many. Here are a few of the more well-known ones nationally:
Dr. Jay Gordon
In the middle of his residency training, pediatrician Jay Gordon took an unusual step. Deciding that he needed greater knowledge about nutrition, vitamins, and alternative medicine in order to practice medicine the way he wanted to, Dr. Gordon took a Senior Fellowship in Pediatric Nutrition at Sloan-Kettering Institute in New York City. After his residency at Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles, Dr. Gordon joined the teaching attending faculty at UCLA Medical Center and Cedars-Sinai Medical Center.
Intensely interested in infant nutrition and breastfeeding, Dr. Gordon is the first male physician to sit for and pass the International Board of Lactation Certification Exam and has served on the Professional Advisory Board of La Leche League for twenty-four years.
Views on the Vaccine Schedule:
Dr. Bob SpearsI am very much opposed to the routine vaccination schedule in the U.S. There are too many vaccines given too early in a child’s life and not enough information given to parents
Vaccines have side effects. There can be rare severe problems, common minor problems and constant speculation about hidden problems. Vaccine proponents who deny side effects are not being honest with you, either.
My strongest recommendation to you and anyone else considering alternatives to the standard vaccine regimen is to become very well informed and discuss these issues long and hard with your doctor. A doc who won’t hold these discussions is too busy and you may need to move on to another.
Dr. Paul ThomasYou also want to know the risks of the diseases themselves. Which ones are most common and severe? Which are fairly rare and often mild? You want to fully understand the diseases you are protecting your child from. You want complete information on the pros and cons of vaccines.
My greatest passion as a pediatrician and a father of three children is to equip America's parents with all the information you need to understand your child's vaccines and make an educated decision. I have created TheVaccineBook.com because vaccine information and research is constantly changing.
Dr. Thomas is obviously knowledgeable in the area of immunization, as a practicing pediatrician and currently one of the few actual board-certified fellows of the American Academy of Pediatrics residing in the State of Oregon.
Dr. Thomas is not anti-vaccine. He states in this interview that about 95% of his patients are vaccinated.
However, Dr. Thomas does not follow the CDC vaccine schedule. He states that he does not want to follow the entire CDC schedule for all of his patients.
There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
(1 John 4:18)
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Last edited by angelatc; 09-30-2017 at 07:13 PM.
Pfizer Macht Frei!
Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.
Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!
Short Income Tax Video
The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes
The Federalist Papers, No. 15:
Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.
Exterior motives, like Dr Sears and the millions he makes from selling books, can indicate bias, but bias doesn't negate evidence. It only means the evidence should be examined more closely.
There is no evidence that vaccines cause autism.
There is no evidence that vaccines do more harm than good.
THere is no evidence that children benefit from the delayed vaccine schedule.
There is a century of evidence that vaccines are a cheap and effective way to make people healthier.
Last edited by angelatc; 09-30-2017 at 07:30 PM.
Actually, you did. When you saw it was a false statement based on facts, you edited your response, and started a new thread stating that 93% of doctors space out vaccines. You then found an article to support your view - a personal attack against these doctors as "anti-science".
Of course you did, because you said that science doesn't exist, even though apparently 93% of doctors in the U.S. space out vaccines sometimes, and U.S. law allows for medical exemptions to vaccines.
I assume you mean "the Internet" represented by Google, as I doubt you have personal knowledge as to which search engine she uses.
Don't scientists and doctors also use Google/the Internet to "educate themselves"? Isn't this why almost all published peer-reviewed scientific studies are now indexed by the NIH on PubMed and search-able by anyone with Internet access?
Stating that a parent loses the right to space out vaccines for their child, as do 93% of physicians, based on someone's belief the science does not exist to support that view, is not a libertarian view. It is medical tyranny, and is more akin to religious fanaticism than it is to objective "science."
Scientism to justify medical/scientific tyranny
There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
(1 John 4:18)
Last edited by angelatc; 09-30-2017 at 07:34 PM.
I have interviewed and worked with many of these doctors, and they most certainly believe there is an advantage to spacing out vaccines as seen by the results in their practice.
Dr. Paul in Oregon is a good example.
Credentials:
He does not give the MMR vaccine before age 3.Dr. Paul Thomas, M.D. was born in Portland Oregon, and grew up in Southern Africa. He has a masters degree in biology, an M.D. from Dartmouth Medical School, and completed his pediatric residency at the University of California, San Diego. He is a board-certified fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics, and also carries board certifications in Addiction Medicine and Integrative Holistic Medicine. He started the Pediatric After-hours Clinic (now Pediatric ER) at Emanuel Children’s Hospital, where he also taught medical students and residents from 1988-1993.
Dr. Thomas is obviously knowledgeable in the area of immunization, as a practicing pediatrician and currently one of the few actual board-certified fellows of the American Academy of Pediatrics residing in the State of Oregon.
Testimony:
Dr. Paul then made the stunning statement that in his practice he currently has over 1000 kids at least 3 years old, and there are no new cases of autism, while nationally, his peers in pediatric care are seeing 1 out of 50 children on the autism spectrum.
There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
(1 John 4:18)
That's your problem. I am speaking about this case. She wants to space out vaccines. The child's father wants to vaccinate the child according to the traditional medical protocols.
The evidence is in his corner, so the judge made the call. Has nothing to do with medical tyranny. It's about who has the most evidence in court. He wins, hands down. Because there is no evidence that delaying vaccines is beneficial. There is no evidence that early vaccines are harmful. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence that vaccines are a very safe and cost effective way to keep people healthy.
That's your belief, and it contradicts many medical doctors who believe otherwise based on the evidence. To force your belief about a medical practice that has the potential to harm, is 100% medical tyranny. Not to mention your belief relies mostly on government studies rife with fraud and conflict of interest, since the government makes so much money from the sale of vaccines.
Yep, medical tyranny. Nothing libertarian about your view at all.
There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
(1 John 4:18)
It is clinical evidence based on his patients. He is making money from practicing medicine (I am not), and 95% of his patients are vaccinated.
Bring it on! Do you know how many times he has REFUSED interviews when he knew someone who disagreed with him was also going to be interviewed at the same time? He won't do it. He makes MILLIONS from his patented vaccine that is part of the CDC schedule, and if Dr. Suzzane Humphries or another doctor is scheduled to be interviewed at the same time he is, he cancels EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Learn more about Offit:
There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
(1 John 4:18)
Shocking though it may be, Dr. Paul has apparently removed this statement from his website entirely. Again, I'm shocked.Dr. Paul then made the stunning statement that in his practice he currently has over 1000 kids at least 3 years old, and there are no new cases of autism, while nationally, his peers in pediatric care are seeing 1 out of 50 children on the autism spectrum.
Really? Which study has he published allowing his extraordinary claim and the supporting data to be examined by other professionals in his field?
Don't bother looking. It's anecdotal evidence, not clinical evidence.
Bring it on! Do you know how many times he has REFUSED interviews when he knew someone who disagreed with him was also going to be interviewed at the same time? He won't do it. He makes MILLIONS from his patented vaccine that is part of the CDC schedule, and if Dr. Suzzane Humphries or another doctor is scheduled to be interviewed at the same time he is, he cancels EVERY SINGLE TIME.
Learn more about Offit:
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Oh my - the leading vaccine expert in the nation and possibly the world has ties to the vaccine industry? Duh.
There is literally no evidence to support anything Humphries et al espouse. There's literally nothing to debate. Being seen on a stage with him would give them credibility - he's a wise man to avoid that.
But it is quite amusing now to see you all fired up about conflicts of interest. You have a financial stake in this as well.
Last edited by angelatc; 09-30-2017 at 08:17 PM.
There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
(1 John 4:18)
Nice straw man attack. The statement was in the video that was posted above. Testimony given before the Oregon legislature to oppose a mandatory vaccination bill, which was defeated. Nobody claimed it was something written on this website. He has hundreds of videos on his YouTube channel, so his views and success as a physician are not a secret.
Last edited by Created4; 10-01-2017 at 01:09 AM.
There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
(1 John 4:18)
And what financial stake might that be? You sure like to make claims and attack people that have no basis in facts.
I am tired of parents emailing us at Health Impact News because their child is vaccine injured or dead, and they feel betrayed. My motivation is to shine the light of the truth against the lies being perpetrated by false beliefs like yours, and hopefully save some children with parents who are better informed.
That is my motivation.
Last edited by Created4; 10-01-2017 at 10:42 AM.
There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
(1 John 4:18)
Yes, it takes a real man to tattle to Big Brother and then act surprised when the mother his child is thrown in jail over his tattling.
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2017/10/...-to-vaccinate/
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