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Thread: TX-Gypsy cop personally on the hook for $6.3 million judgement in death of elderly man

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    Exclamation TX-Gypsy cop personally on the hook for $6.3 million judgement in death of elderly man

    About damn time.



    Cop Forced to Pay $6.3M of Own Money to Family of Innocent 70yo Man He Cuffed and Watched Die

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/gyp...nswer-actions/

    26 Sept. 2017

    Malakoff, TX — As TFTP has frequently reported, if police officers are not held accountable for their actions in one department, they will simply change departments and continue abusing citizens. We call them gypsy cops. One such gypsy cop is Ernesto Fierro, whose time has finally come.

    In 2005, Fierro was allowed to resign from the Dallas Police Department after he was involved in two hit-and-runs in which he fled the scene. That would be a felony conviction for the average citizen, but police officers are often given a pass for their crimes, allowed to resign and be employed elsewhere at another LEA (law enforcement agency).

    Later, Fierro was employed in 2011 with the Ferris, Texas, Police Department when he was involved in the death of a motorcyclist during a high-speed chase. Had Fierro been held accountable for his actions in Dallas and later in Ferris, he might not have allegedly killed William Livezey Jr. (70), of New Sharon, Iowa. But, he was not held accountable and was therefore allowed to strike again.
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    Fierro, the gypsy cop, left Ferris and was employed in Malakoff, Texas in April 2014 where he was a police officer. While riding his own personal motorcycle, Fierro was involved in a road-rage incident with Livezey, who was driving a tractor-trailer load of reclaimed barn lumber from his business in Taintor, Iowa, to a client in Houston.

    The incident began when Fierro perceived Livezey to be trying to kill him with his truck. According to the DesMoines Register:

    Fierro claimed in testimony that Livezey, who lived in New Sharon, Iowa, had “homicidal intent with his attacks of road rage” and came close to killing him while he was on his motorcycle.

    But Fierro’s claims Livezey was trying to kill him were disputed by more than one witness who saw the gypsy cop driving erratically.

    But witnesses said they saw the motorcycle weave from side-to-side and dart in front of Livezey’s truck at least 15 times, forcing it onto the shoulder. At one point, Fierro allegedly kicked the truck’s tire, witnesses told police.

    Fierro then arrested Livezey for “aggravated assault” and placed the elderly man in handcuffs. That’s when the truck driver said he wasn’t feeling well. He told the other officers he was afraid Fierro was going to kill him. Fierro claimed he was faking his illness.

    When backup officers arrived, Livezey said his chest was hurting “and he thought the other man was going to hurt him,” the lawsuit says. Fierro claimed Livezey was “faking” and just “putting on a show” to avoid going to jail.

    The other officers who were on-duty, apparently realizing the man’s health condition was grave, took him out of handcuffs and placed him into his vehicle, where he turned purple and stopped breathing. Shortly after, he was declared dead of a cardiac arrest. The family sued the city of Malakoff, the police department, and officer Fierro.

    A judge removed the city and the police department from the lawsuit and allowed the suit to proceed against Fierro as the solely responsible individual for Livezey’s death. A jury found him guilty and awarded the family $6.3 million dollars as a civil penalty for causing the elderly Iowa man’s death. Fierro will be solely responsible for paying the judgment.

    The Livezey family’s attorneys claimed Fierro “wrongfully and illegally handcuffed, arrested, assaulted, and detained which ultimately caused his death at the scene.” The jury agreed. Finally, after two hit-and-run incidents, and the deaths of two citizens, Fierro was forced to surrender his Texas peace officer’s license.

    Finally, after two hit-and-run incidents, and the deaths of two citizens, Fierro was forced to surrender his Texas peace officer’s license. If Fierro had been held accountable for his actions when he was in Dallas, and been charged with felony hit-and-run, for example, maybe the two other individuals would still be alive today.

    Fierro’s story is precisely why we at TFTP do what we do, to expose the double standard, and hold police officers to the same standard to which the rest of society is held.
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    I can't see any way how this is a win.

    Someone working as a cop might have saved up what, $200k total?
    He'll declare bankruptcy and the family will MAYBE get the funeral expenses covered.

    All the judge did is make it so the family won't actually get any money. Nothing was done about the problem of gypsy cops, and the city and police department that hired him after two other incidents will have zero reason not to do it all over again.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    A judge removed the city and the police department from the lawsuit
    LOL. That will teach them. Not sure why the gypsy moniker either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    I can't see any way how this is a win.

    Someone working as a cop might have saved up what, $200k total?
    He'll declare bankruptcy and the family will MAYBE get the funeral expenses covered.

    All the judge did is make it so the family won't actually get any money. Nothing was done about the problem of gypsy cops, and the city and police department that hired him after two other incidents will have zero reason not to do it all over again.
    You'd prefer the taxpayers stay on the hook and the cop skates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You'd prefer the taxpayers stay on the hook and the cop skates?
    I'd prefer all his personal property forfeited to the family, all bank accounts stripped, all pension funds seized, and then for the murderer to be placed in wrist and leg chains and then delivered to the family to deal with as they choose.
    But, I guess you gotta take what you can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    He'll declare bankruptcy and the family will MAYBE get the funeral expenses covered.
    Good point. I'll hold off on making a gofundme page for this poor Officer until after the bankruptcy is settled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Good point. I'll hold off on making a gofundme page for this poor Officer until after the bankruptcy is settled.
    He's not an officer anymore, so don't bother for this mundane loser. Who does he think he is? A hero? Heroes wear blue. He does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    He's not an officer anymore, so don't bother for this mundane loser. Who does he think he is? A hero? Heroes wear blue. He does not.
    All he did was handcuff a man, rough him up a little, and ignore his pleas for help. That's just part of being a cop, he certainly didn't deserve to get fired.

    If we fired every cop for just doing their job, we'd have no more cops.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    If we fired every cop for just doing their job, we'd have no more cops.
    Sounds like a plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You'd prefer the taxpayers stay on the hook and the cop skates?
    He's not on the hook for 6.3M. What I would prefer is, yes, every single wrongful death at the hands of a cop ends up with $6.3 million getting taken away from the state and given to the family of the victim.

    Or more. Much more.

    $#@! the taxpayers. They are the ones who are facilitating the cops' indiscriminate killing. Bleed them dry.

    When they're officially sick of it and ready to take some heads, I'll still be there whispering, "We don't need cops at all, you know."

    Some of them might recognize some of us have been doing it for years.

    It's really the only hope for the meaningful endgame.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    All he did was handcuff a man, rough him up a little, and ignore his pleas for help. That's just part of being a cop, he certainly didn't deserve to get fired.

    If we fired every cop for just doing their job, we'd have no more cops.
    Watch it bxm, you're toeing my line now, and I never say this sarcastically.
    There are no crimes against people.
    There are only crimes against the state.
    And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    All he did was handcuff a man, rough him up a little, and ignore his pleas for help. That's just part of being a cop, he certainly didn't deserve to get fired.

    If we fired every cop for just doing their job, we'd have no more cops.
    Yeah, but he did it on personal time. Should have at least been wearing the Blue and on an awesome CHIPS-style Harley Davidson cycle. What kind of cop does this in his spare time when he could have been on overtime? Next thing you know the city councils will be saying "Well, hell, cops are doing it in their spare time. Why should we even pay them, much less pay them overtime?" That's not how it's done and it may lead to less overtime for all cops. Which would be terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I'd prefer all his personal property forfeited to the family, all bank accounts stripped, all pension funds seized, and then for the murderer to be placed in wrist and leg chains and then delivered to the family to deal with as they choose.
    But, I guess you gotta take what you can get.
    So would I, but yes, this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Yeah, but he did it on personal time. Should have at least been wearing the Blue and on an awesome CHIPS-style Harley Davidson cycle.
    When did California stop paying taxpayer dollars for rice grinders?
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    When did California stop paying taxpayer dollars for rice grinders?
    Dunno. But, if you ever travel I-77 up near Wytheville, Va. their cops all ride nice Harley's and dress in leathers. It's an asset forfeiture "drug" corridor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You'd prefer the taxpayers stay on the hook and the cop skates?
    Seems like nothing that has ever happened is good news if you ask fisharmor. SMH he makes you sound like Pollyanna.
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