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    Ben Shapiro Rips On Rand Paul & Ron Paul

    I no longer have much doubt that Ben Shapiro is an Israel Firster Neocon with Sean Hannity "right cover" talking points.

    Rips on Rand from about 2:17 to 3:20 and completely outs himself as a neocon.

    Rips on Ron at about 5:50





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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    I no longer have much doubt that Ben Shapiro is an Israel Firster Neocon with Sean Hannity "right cover" talking points.

    Rips on Rand from about 2:17 to 3:20 and completely outs himself as a neocon.

    Rips on Ron at about 5:50


    This comes as a surprise to you?
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This comes as a surprise to you?
    I only discovered Ben Shapiro about 4 months ago. I'm a slow learner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    I no longer have much doubt that Ben Shapiro is an Israel Firster Neocon with Sean Hannity "right cover" talking points.

    Rips on Rand from about 2:17 to 3:20 and completely outs himself as a neocon.

    Rips on Ron at about 5:50








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    Yeah, this guy is no friend of liberty.

    And to top it off, he comes across as a jackass in his presentations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Horse_Rider View Post
    Yeah, this guy is no friend of liberty.

    And to top it off, he comes across as a jackass in his presentations
    Do you see a pattern here?

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    Yeah, he's always been an $#@!. My sense is that he strives for relevance just so he can counter Rand Paul - as more and more people notice that everything the Pauls have ever said, turns out to be correct.

    While I will check breitbart for news, I remain skeptical of them or anyone that they choose to feature as some sort of freedom fighter (Milo included). At the root, they always turn out to be more neocon than anything else. If and when Rand runs for president again - they will bash him.
    Last edited by Valli6; 09-22-2017 at 06:53 AM.



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    lolz. I was going to ask how can Shapiro be anti-Pauls, but I just now realized he is not a key spokesperson for YAL, but is for something else called the YAF--so what is this a neocons highjacking of YAL?!

    http://www.yaf.org/speakers/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    If and when Rand runs for president again - they will bash him.
    Ben Shapiro is already bashing Rand Paul. See OP.

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    Ben says in OP video that Americans essentially want war and are very supportive of it.

    Last edited by anaconda; 09-22-2017 at 10:19 PM.

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    First mention of Shapiro in these forums is in a thread polling for the most annoying neocons. June 2007. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...l=1#post206310

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    First mention of Shapiro in these forums is in a thread polling for the most annoying neocons. June 2007. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...l=1#post206310
    Speaking of annoying neocons, I noticed that Benjamin was subbing for Mark Levin the other day.

    But I digress....

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...light=no-Levin
    Last edited by anaconda; 09-22-2017 at 09:47 PM.

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    Speaking of annoying Neocons... what's everyone's thoughts on Michael "Savage" Weiner? I think he's about top 5 in the nation, but in some cities he's top three or number 1. He pushed hard for Trump, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    First mention of Shapiro in these forums is in a thread polling for the most annoying neocons. June 2007. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...l=1#post206310
    People are very dumb, and forgetful.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    Speaking of annoying Neocons... what's everyone's thoughts on Michael "Savage" Weiner? I think he's about top 5 in the nation, but in some cities he's top three or number 1. He pushed hard for Trump, of course.
    Once in a while he goes tin foil hat anti-establishment. But then he'll flip flop like a Glenn Beck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    People are very dumb, and forgetful.
    You know me too well!

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    I liked his shows for his stories, accent, and the $#@! he gives other conservatives. None of the Neocons like him, yet he likes Neocons? I think its because he's the purest Trotskyist in radio, which means they must break a sweat performing mental gymnastics to avoid him. Being a Neocon is soooo awkward.
    Last edited by Raginfridus; 09-23-2017 at 01:50 AM.

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    He gave a pretty good speech at Berkeley, but his foreign policy is definitely a huge downside.

    I guess after 8 years of having a Democrat neocon President, it's pretty refreshing to hear someone who genuinely agrees with you 70% of the way or more, especially when they focus on the 70+%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    I no longer have much doubt that Ben Shapiro is an Israel Firster Neocon with Sean Hannity "right cover" talking points.

    Rips on Rand from about 2:17 to 3:20 and completely outs himself as a neocon.

    Rips on Ron at about 5:50


    Shapiro is a teocon. Neoconservative on foreign policy, good on many other issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Shapiro is a teocon. Neoconservative on foreign policy, good on many other issues.
    The problem with that is for them, there are no other issues. They will vote against fiscal conservative policy every time as long as it's attached to foreign policy.

    Liberals are the same way. They make noise about being anti-war, but as long as the war expenditure is tied to some freebie here at home, they'll sell out the peace movement every time.

    Carrots in front of asses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Shapiro is a teocon. Neoconservative on foreign policy, good on many other issues.
    Foreign policy is all neocons care about. The rest is window dressing.

    I can't even listen to pundits anymore. On a long drive yesterday I found the radio stations carrying Rush, Hannity, etc (both had substitutes in) and listened for the first time in years. Do people really believe the horse$#@! these guys say? It was mind-blowing listening to an admitted intelligence officer, ex-FBI agent talk about the "deep state", as if he's not 100% part of it, while pushing out blatant disinfo over the airwaves.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    People are very dumb, and forgetful.
    @r3volution 3.0,

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    loveshiscountry
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    At least he isn't calling Rand and Ron isolationists. Horrible on foreign policy as all Israel firsters are. Excellent on domestic policy.
    He says Americans want to intervene, mob rule, they're for it, which isn't true. Still doesn't matter, it's unConstitutional
    Last edited by loveshiscountry; 09-23-2017 at 04:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Carrots in front of asses.



    The Ronald Reagan of our times, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    The problem with that is for them, there are no other issues. They will vote against fiscal conservative policy every time as long as it's attached to foreign policy.

    Liberals are the same way. They make noise about being anti-war, but as long as the war expenditure is tied to some freebie here at home, they'll sell out the peace movement every time.

    Carrots in front of asses.
    Yes, thank you. "Left cover" and "Right cover" always agree with their constituents 70% or more of the time, to acquire loyal audiences. Then when war or central banking come onto the table they both go into propaganda overdrive to protect the state and its handlers. Shapiro appears to be clearly of this ilk, much like Hannity, Limbaugh, & Maddow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
    At least he isn't calling Rand and Ron isolationists.
    Actually, I believe this is exactly what he was inferring.

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    loveshiscountry
    Member

    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Actually, I believe this is exactly what he was inferring.
    In the past he has specifically called them isolationists. This time he used non interventionist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncharted View Post
    Ron's talking about the Strauss cult, which no one ever does.

    Rothbard on Strauss (among other things):

    https://mises.org/library/1-ideology...eories-history

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