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  1. #31
    Lol - I see people falling for this tripe from time to time...

    Somehow, I always hear: "Herpes is bad, but syphilis is worse!"
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    As much as I can't stand republicans, democrats are a lot worse. If you disagree, name a few of the top freedom favoring republicans and then name a few of the top freedom favoring democrats.

    Generally agree, but both often give up the principle and are just negotiating price.

    Still however,
    --Democrats consistently score lower on measures of freedom.
    --Liberty minded people and libertarians are consistently in the Republican party
    --Traditional minded women are Republicans. A tough sell, considering women often turn to Democrats.


    This index and model are hardly perfect, but you can virtually guess the party based on percentage. You can either coffee klatch, whine and wait for perfection, or you can try to get something done.

    "The Freedom Index: A Congressional Scorecard Based on the U.S. Constitution"
    The percentages below are cumulative scores based on key votes from 1999 to the first part of 2017. [Higher means more freedom.]



    A few sample states:

    Kentucky
    Sen. Mitch McConnell - 60%
    Sen. Rand Paul - 93%
    Dist.1: James Comer - 50%
    Dist.2: Brett Guthrie - 63%
    Dist.3: John Yarmuth - 21%
    Dist.4: Thomas Massie - 98%
    Dist.5: Harold Rogers - 52%
    Dist.6: Garland Barr - 55%


    Utah
    Sen. Mike Lee - 92%
    Sen. Orrin Hatch - 56%
    Dist.1: Rob Bishop - 66%
    Dist.2: Chris Stewart - 61%
    Dist.4: Mia Love - 68%

    Vermont
    Sen. Patrick Leahy - 15%
    Sen. Bernard Sanders - 27%
    Dist.: Peter Welch - 26%

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/freedom-index


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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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  5. #33
    Here is another measure, per the research Freedom in the 50 States


    I view the top 5 freedom states as more Republican/conservative. I view the bottom 5 states as more Democrat/liberal.


    The overall freedom ranking is a combination of personal and economic freedoms.


    Top freedom states:

    1. New Hampshire
    2. Oklahoma
    3. Indiana
    4. South Dakota
    5. Alaska



    Worst states for freedom (bottom 5):

    46. Maryland
    47. New Jersey
    48. Hawaii
    49. California
    50. New York


    Good map here: https://www.freedominthe50states.org/
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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  6. #34
    Whatever. Regardless of how crappy the politicians are, when we turn our noses up at Democratic voters and sneer at them when we should be recruiting them, we're making a mistake. The age old 'our $#@! don't stink' mistake. Republican $#@! stinks, and that's the bottom line.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Lol - I see people falling for this tripe from time to time...

    Somehow, I always hear: "Herpes is bad, but syphilis is worse!"
    This. If we withhold our penicillin from either one of them, we lose. Doesn't matter which disease the voters have. We can still cure it.

    Individuals >>> demographics
    Last edited by acptulsa; 09-21-2017 at 11:33 AM.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I don't think agreeing with Ron Paul on one thing forgives the fact that he's a communist:

    Believes health care is a right and supports universal health care.
    Wants to ban all handguns.
    Supports "free" education all the way thru college.
    Opposes free trade.
    Basically wants to take over farming.
    Favors a steeply progressive tax, the second plank of the communist manifesto.

    Again, I'm not saying I like the republican party. I don't. I don't vote for them. All I'm saying is that as bad as the republicans are, the democrats are MUCH worse.
    Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) says he would consider putting the liberal congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) in his Cabinet if he were to win the presidency in 2012.

    Paul said his libertarian political philosophy helps him connect with some on the far left — including Kucinich, who shares Paul’s general anti-war stance.

    Paul joked that if he brought the Ohio congressman aboard in his administration, he might have to create a "Department of Peace."

    "You've got to give credit to people who think," he said.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...in-his-cabinet
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  8. #36
    Putting him in his cabinet=controlling him by limiting his power to a subject where he is not evil.
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  9. #37
    Moving him from the House of Representatives to the Cabinet =/= limiting his power.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
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  10. #38
    Dennis Kucinich would choose Ron Paul as his running mate:



    Ron Paul on Dennis Kucinich

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  11. #39
    I think one reason you think Kucinich is not that bad is because you seem to put a much higher emphasis on civil liberty vs economic liberty, especially the economic liberty of the most productive.

    Personally I think while they are both important, if I had to choose I'd take economic liberty first. At least if my property rights are protected I can afford to take a trip to Amsterdam and smoke weed every once in awhile. If Kucinich had his way none of us would even be able to afford weed. We'd all be worried about food, shelter and clothing.

    For the third time

    Kucinich:

    Believes health care is a right and supports universal health care.
    Wants to ban all handguns.
    Supports "free" education all the way thru college.
    Opposes free trade.
    Basically wants to take over farming.
    Favors a steeply progressive tax, the second plank of the communist manifesto.


    And that's just the tip of the iceburg. I found that in a couple minutes. Actually I'm surprised that anyone who reads that list would still have the balls to defend him. If I was the one defending him and saw his positions I'd be embarrassed and apologizing.
    Last edited by Madison320; 09-21-2017 at 12:52 PM.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Lol - I see people falling for this tripe from time to time...

    Somehow, I always hear: "Herpes is bad, but syphilis is worse!"
    That's true to a point but it's more like herpes vs losing your arms and legs. My point not that republicans are good but how remarkably bad democrats are.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I think one reason you think Kucinich is not that bad is because you seem to put a much higher emphasis on civil liberty vs economic liberty, especially the economic liberty of the most productive.

    Personally I think while they are both important, if I had to choose I'd take economic liberty first. At least if my property rights are protected I can afford to take a trip to Amsterdam and smoke weed every once in awhile. If Kucinich had his way none of us would even be able to afford weed. We'd all be worried about food, shelter and clothing.
    And we wouldn't have any guns to revolt with if civil liberties were infringed far enough to justify it.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    As much as I can't stand republicans, democrats are a lot worse. If you disagree, name a few of the top freedom favoring republicans and then name a few of the top freedom favoring democrats.

    Rand Paul, Justin Amash, Thomas Massie.

    Your turn....
    I hope you understand this is like trying to "win" a race to the bottom.
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    I hope you understand this is like trying to "win" a race to the bottom.
    That's the name of their game. That's what the two party system has systematically been re-engineered to cause us to do.

    And we're doing it.
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  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    That's true to a point but it's more like herpes vs losing your arms and legs. My point not that republicans are good but how remarkably bad democrats are.
    Lol - you must be buying into the rhetoric instead of the actions. Seems to me that government grows and liberty recedes regardless of which party is in power. In fact, the two parties seem to work in incredibly efficient unison to acquire and use as much power as possible. So, which leg do you hate worse? The left one or the right one? (Hint: if you choose one leg over the other, you missed the point.)
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Lol - you must be buying into the rhetoric instead of the actions. Seems to me that government grows and liberty recedes regardless of which party is in power. In fact, the two parties seem to work in incredibly efficient unison to acquire and use as much power as possible. So, which leg do you hate worse? The left one or the right one? (Hint: if you choose one leg over the other, you missed the point.)
    It's the age-old story. We can actually improve things later--right now we have to slow the decline down a little. That's how the 'lesser of two evils' scam works.

    Young people are particularly susceptible to it because they don't yet have a perspective of history which allows them to see four years is something other than a long time. And old people fall victim to it because decades of failure to get us out of the lesser evil false paradigm has convinced them that slowing down the decline is the best we can realistically hope for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Lol - you must be buying into the rhetoric instead of the actions. Seems to me that government grows and liberty recedes regardless of which party is in power. In fact, the two parties seem to work in incredibly efficient unison to acquire and use as much power as possible. So, which leg do you hate worse? The left one or the right one? (Hint: if you choose one leg over the other, you missed the point.)
    I have to admit that the results as a group of each party seem to be pretty close, despite that fact that on an individual basis, the worst republican is probably better than the best democrat.

    And my Gary Johnson vote is looking better all the time.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I think one reason you think Kucinich is not that bad is because you seem to put a much higher emphasis on civil liberty vs economic liberty, especially the economic liberty of the most productive.

    Personally I think while they are both important, if I had to choose I'd take economic liberty first. At least if my property rights are protected I can afford to take a trip to Amsterdam and smoke weed every once in awhile. If Kucinich had his way none of us would even be able to afford weed. We'd all be worried about food, shelter and clothing.

    For the third time

    Kucinich:

    Believes health care is a right and supports universal health care.
    Wants to ban all handguns.
    Supports "free" education all the way thru college.
    Opposes free trade.
    Basically wants to take over farming.
    Favors a steeply progressive tax, the second plank of the communist manifesto.


    And that's just the tip of the iceburg. I found that in a couple minutes. Actually I'm surprised that anyone who reads that list would still have the balls to defend him. If I was the one defending him and saw his positions I'd be embarrassed and apologizing.
    Really? You ARE talking about Ron Paul, who liked Kuinich, BTW.

    They were on the same page with foreign policy & the FED. If you listened to Kuinich on the vid I posted, he said that RP and he did not agree on all things but he felt that was healthy. They could discuss and look at another's POV and think about it.

    My reasons for posting this stuff is to show that some left/right people can get along and come to understandings.

    As far as Reps & Dems, overall, they are NO DIFFERENT. Just say different buzzwords to make their voters happy.
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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Really? You ARE talking about Ron Paul, who liked Kuinich, BTW.

    They were on the same page with foreign policy & the FED. If you listened to Kuinich on the vid I posted, he said that RP and he did not agree on all things but he felt that was healthy. They could discuss and look at another's POV and think about it.

    My reasons for posting this stuff is to show that some left/right people can get along and come to understandings.

    As far as Reps & Dems, overall, they are NO DIFFERENT. Just say different buzzwords to make their voters happy.
    I'm confused. Which part of communism are you ok with?



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    I'm confused. Which part of communism are you ok with?
    Ahhh..... now to the insults and innuendos. Always happens when you lose an argument.
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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Ahhh..... now to the insults and innuendos. Always happens when you lose an argument.
    No sir, that was a factual question.

    Read Kucinich's position one more time, very slowly. He's a communist. OK, I'll be nice. He's a very extreme socialist.

    Believes health care is a right and supports universal health care.
    Wants to ban all handguns.
    Supports "free" education all the way thru college.
    Opposes free trade.
    Basically wants to take over farming.
    Favors a steeply progressive tax, the second plank of the communist manifesto.


    This was on Wikipedia about his position of farming, it might as well come from Karl Marx.

    "Something is wrong when profits of agribusiness corporations skyrocket, but farmers must find off-farm jobs or sell their farms to survive," says Kucinich on his website. Kucinich has been an opponent of market led agrarian reform and has advocated canceling NAFTA and the WTO and replacing them with bilateral agreements that benefit farmers, empowering farmers by providing incentives to join collective bargaining units, breaking apart agribusiness monopolies through enforcing anti-trust laws, shifting towards local food systems such as a farm-to-school program, reducing environmental impacts through safeguarding family farms from factory farm pollution, and restoring family farms in the United States.[57] Kucinich has also said he gives "strong and unwavering support to our organic family farmers.

    Update: Maybe I'm wrong about Kucinich. I just read the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and Kucinich only agrees with about half of them. Maybe he's only a partial communist.
    Last edited by Madison320; 09-21-2017 at 02:16 PM.

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Personally I feel that high, progressive taxation is the biggest loss of freedom and my guess is Kucinich wasn't too hot on that issue. What good is smoking weed if you're a slave? Maybe I'm wrong about him, I'll look it up tomorrow.

    Ok, I looked it up. It's not good.

    Believes health care is a right and supports universal health care.
    Wants to ban all handguns.
    Supports "free" education all the way thru college.
    Opposes free trade.
    Basically wants to take over farming.
    Favors a steeply progressive tax, the second plank of the communist manifesto.

    But he lets you smoke weed!

    And this is the "best" of the democrats? Holy Venezuela Batman! Actually he's not even a current politician.
    Wait a minute, you just equivocated anti-Patriot Act, anti-spying and smoking weed with just smoking weed.. And you forgot about being anti-war and Auditing the Fed.

    I admit the socialism stuff is a HUGE ding, but Ron Paul seems to like Kucinich better than McCain and I think I would prefer him too. McCain is a big government socialist, anti-civil liberties, pro-war, pro-Fed, pro-establishment, everything about him is bad.

    Sanders is a different beast, he is just too ignorant on all the issues that he might be ok on if it weren't for his ignorance, I can't find any good reason to support him at all.
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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    I hope you understand this is like trying to "win" a race to the bottom.
    That's why I don't vote for republicans or democrats, I vote libertarian.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Wait a minute, you just equivocated anti-Patriot Act, anti-spying and smoking weed with just smoking weed.. And you forgot about being anti-war and Auditing the Fed.

    I admit the socialism stuff is a HUGE ding, but Ron Paul seems to like Kucinich better than McCain and I think I would prefer him too. McCain is a big government socialist, anti-civil liberties, pro-war, pro-Fed, pro-establishment, everything about him is bad.

    Sanders is a different beast, he is just too ignorant on all the issues that he might be ok on if it weren't for his ignorance, I can't find any good reason to support him at all.
    I know I was just being a little sarcastic.

    But seriously, Kucinich seems to be a pretty hard core socialist/borderline communist. He's so horribly bad on so many issues that there's no way the positives can outweigh the negatives. That's like a serial killer who helps old ladies cross the street.

    Then there's McCain. Hmm. That's a tough one. I think I'd still take McCain over Kucinich. I'll bet if you looked at the voting record Kucinich is WAY more socialistic than McCain. And I doubt that McCain supports a total ban on handguns (yikes!). So the question would be does McCain's war mongering outweigh Kucinich's communism? That's why I joked "Excluding McCain" earlier.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    No sir, that was a factual question.

    Read Kucinich's position one more time, very slowly. He's a communist. OK, I'll be nice. He's a very extreme socialist.

    Believes health care is a right and supports universal health care.
    Wants to ban all handguns.
    Supports "free" education all the way thru college.
    Opposes free trade.
    Basically wants to take over farming.
    Favors a steeply progressive tax, the second plank of the communist manifesto.


    This was on Wikipedia about his position of farming, it might as well come from Karl Marx.

    "Something is wrong when profits of agribusiness corporations skyrocket, but farmers must find off-farm jobs or sell their farms to survive," says Kucinich on his website. Kucinich has been an opponent of market led agrarian reform and has advocated canceling NAFTA and the WTO and replacing them with bilateral agreements that benefit farmers, empowering farmers by providing incentives to join collective bargaining units, breaking apart agribusiness monopolies through enforcing anti-trust laws, shifting towards local food systems such as a farm-to-school program, reducing environmental impacts through safeguarding family farms from factory farm pollution, and restoring family farms in the United States.[57] Kucinich has also said he gives "strong and unwavering support to our organic family farmers.

    Update: Maybe I'm wrong about Kucinich. I just read the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and Kucinich only agrees with about half of them. Maybe he's only a partial communist.
    Leeseee.... RON PAUL is also against NAFTA & the WTO.
    Ron Paul is a proponent of free trade and rejects protectionism, advocating “conducting open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations.” He opposes many free trade agreements (FTAs), like the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), stating that “free-trade agreements are really managed trade” and serve special interests and big business, not citizens.
    http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/free-trade/

    Sowing More Big Government with the Farm Bill

    by Ron Paul

    Those who believe federal farm programs benefit independent farmers, should take note that after 70 years of this type of government intervention, small farms continue to struggle while large corporate farms control an ever-increasing share of the agricultural market. Subsidies for agribusiness should be stopped and the free market should be allowed to work. With commodity and food prices on the rise, Congress had an opportunity to scale down government controls and taxpayer funding of agriculture. Instead, despite the warning sent by an 18% approval rating, Congress stubbornly opted for more of the same.
    https://www.ronpaul.com/2008-06-02/s...the-farm-bill/

    And HERE are the Big Agribusinesses:

    Huge companies like Cargill, Nestle, Monsanto, ConAgra, and Archer Daniels Midland dominate the world's food system. They control very large shares of the international markets for grains, fertilizers, pesticides and seeds, and they are involved in the food system from the farm to the supermarket.
    https://www.globalpolicy.org/social-...companies.html

    Monsanto is NOT my idea of health & freedom.
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  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Leeseee.... RON PAUL is also against NAFTA & the WTO.


    http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/free-trade/



    https://www.ronpaul.com/2008-06-02/s...the-farm-bill/

    And HERE are the Big Agribusinesses:


    https://www.globalpolicy.org/social-...companies.html

    Monsanto is NOT my idea of health & freedom.
    So the enemy of my enemy is my friend?

    And you say we don't learn from history
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So the enemy of my enemy is my friend?

    And you say we don't learn from history
    I think Kucinich and Paul both like the color blue, maybe Kucinich is ok after all. That little communist thing is no big deal.



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    Kucinich on Wars:

    Americans have been misled about the Iraqi war:
    Promote international treaties but reject global corporatism:
    Foreign aid for peace incentives, not conflict:
    International Cooperation: US out of Iraq, UN in:
    Let the UN rebuild Iraq and develop its governance:
    Impeach VP Cheney for taking US into Iraq War based on lies:
    One cannot be against Iraq war yet still fund it:
    Member of the Out-of-Iraq Congressional Caucus:
    YES on removing US armed forces from Afghanistan:
    YES on banning armed forces in Libya without Congressional approval:
    NO on authorizing military force in Iraq:
    NO on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date:
    YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days:
    YES on investigating Bush impeachment for lying about Iraq:
    http://www.ontheissues.org/Dennis_Kucinich.htm

    And my whole point is that there is NO DIFFERENCE between most of dems/repubs- but once in a while someone does have integrity. I don't agree w/all of Kucinich but at least he is honest and is trusted by Ron Paul.
    Last edited by Ender; 09-21-2017 at 03:20 PM.
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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    So the enemy of my enemy is my friend?

    And you say we don't learn from history
    I will use small words so you are not confused:

    Ron. Paul. and. Dennis. Kucinich. are. friends.
    There is no spoon.

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    I will use small words so you are not confused:

    Ron. Paul. and. Dennis. Kucinich. are. friends.
    I also have friends I wouldn't want anywhere near a voting booth let alone a position in government if I could talk them out of it.

    Kucinich is a nightmare and if Ron is soft on him because he was a fellow voice on a few issues that doesn't change anything.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I also have friends I wouldn't want anywhere near a voting booth let alone a position in government if I could talk them out of it.

    Kucinich is a nightmare and if Ron is soft on him because he was a fellow voice on a few issues that doesn't change anything.
    A few issues? A few issues?

    There are liberal districts. They will not vote conservative. This is a fact of life you cannot change. So, does that mean a Kucinich or two is useless to the betterment of the world?

    The Federal Reserve is one issue. And yet, the Federal Reserve is the monstrous domino which has the weight to topple a thousand other ugly dominoes. A thousand. Ugly dominoes. Monstrous.

    A few issues?

    We seem to be unclear on our priorities...

    You want prosperity? So you say. But peace brings prosperity, despite eight decades of MIC propaganda to the contrary. So, what say you? Would you, too, prefer McCain the Warmonger to Kucinich?

    Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

    Bullet, meet foot.

    God, help us get our heads out of our partisan asses. Amen.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 09-21-2017 at 03:37 PM.
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    We believe our lying eyes...

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