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    Quote Originally Posted by Champuckett View Post
    The illusion that a group of people and/or a state entity can secede from its larger state body keeps getting chipped away bit by bit.

    Peacefully voting to leave can apparently only be met with violence. This is waking people up as each body gets dragged down to the entrance and tossed into the street.
    Finally the real relationship between the state and citizens is revealed. Jaws dropping in silence. Curtain. Applause.
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.



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    The Results Are In: 89% Of Catalans Vote For Independence

    In further proof that Spain's brutal crackdown on today's Catalan independence referendum only helped bolster the seccessionist cause, the regional government announced that voters had overwhelmingly voted in favor of independence, with 89% voting to separate from Spain. Shortly after midnight on Sunday, Catalan government spokesman Jordi Turull announced that 2,262,424 ballot papers had been counted. There were 2,020,144 "yes" votes, or just under 90% of the total, and just 176,565 "no" votes.
    The regional government has promised to officially declare independence within 48 hours.
    Even though Spanish authorities ruled that the vote was illegal, Dimitrij Rupel, head of the International Parliamentary delegation on Catalonia’s referendum, said at a news conference in Barcelona on Sunday that the referendum on independence was prepared in agreement with Spanish existing legislation, potentially setting up the regional government for a legal battle.
    In a speech earlier this evening, Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy, who tried to suppress the vote by jailing public officials, shutting down electronic voting systems, ordering police to manually destroy ballots and seal off polling places, declared that no referendum had taken place.
    All eyes now turn to Catalan leader Carles Puigdemont as tensions between Spain and its restive state are expected to come to a head, as the prospect of intensifying street violence looms.


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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    They just all need to vote really, really hard.

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    So, why couldn't Spain just let them do the voting ritual and then ignore the result?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Couldn't the Spanish government, who should be more aptly named "bunch of morons" from now on, just ignore the results of the vote instead of pretending it didn't happen?
    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    So, why couldn't Spain just let them do the voting ritual and then ignore the result?
    Nobody knows.
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    EU Washes Its Hands Of Catalonia, Puigdemont Demands Spanish Police Withdraw

    After an unprecedented 2 million Catalans voted for independence during Sunday’s referendum, larger than the number who voted for independence during a prior independence referendum in November 2014, the will of Catalan people has been made abundantly clear: The regional government of Carles Puigdemont has an overwhelming popular mandate for independence. And in spite of the Madrid government’s brutality, the government in Barcelona hasn’t backed down.
    After delivering a rousing speech last night where he called on the EU to intercede with the Spanish government to try and stop the violence being committed by the Civil Guard and the National Police, Puigdemont on Monday demanded that the national police withdraw from the region as his government prepares to declare independence. Puigdemont asserted that the result of the vote is legally binding – despite a Madrid court’s declaration that the referendum was illegal. The regional government is still verifying the final results of the ballot, but according to a preliminary count released early Monday local time, 89% of the 2.3 million Catalans who voted chose independence.

    While the government in Barcelona initially said it would declare independence within 48 hours of the ‘yes’ vote being certified by the regional Parliament, Bloomberg is reporting that Puigdemont’s time frame could see him announce the formation of a Catalan republic on Oct. 6, exactly 83 years since his predecessor as regional president, Lluis Companys, declared independence. Companys was eventually executed by the dictatorship of Francisco Franco.
    Puigdemont has said the vote will be sent to the Parliament for final ratification shortly.
    However, in a sign that the international community is backing away from the secessionist region even as a potentially bloody conflict looms, the European Commission officially washed its hands of the constitutional crisis, saying in a statement released Monday that the issue “is an internal matter for Spain that has to be dealt with in line with the constitutional order of Spain.” In doing so, it ignored the Catalan government's pleas for recognition.
    In the latest suggestion that it unequivocally backs Rajoy, the Commission clarified that, should Catalonia leave Spain, it would also “find itself outside of the European Union.”
    Read the EC’s full statement below:
    Under the Spanish Constitution, yesterday's vote in Catalonia was not legal.
    For the European Commission, as President Juncker has reiterated repeatedly, this is an internal matter for Spain that has to be dealt with in line with the constitutional order of Spain.

    We also reiterate the legal position held by this Commission as well as by its predecessors. If a referendum were to be organised in line with the Spanish Constitution it would mean that the territory leaving would find itself outside of the European Union.

    Beyond the purely legal aspects of this matter, the Commission believes that these are times for unity and stability, not divisiveness and fragmentation.

    We call on all relevant players to now move very swiftly from confrontation to dialogue. Violence can never be an instrument in politics. We trust the leadership of Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy to manage this difficult process in full respect of the Spanish Constitution and of the fundamental rights of citizens enshrined therein.
    Indeed, while opposition figures like Jeremy Corbyn and Nicola Sturgeon (who may look to the Catalans to inspire another Scottish independence referendum) have called on Spain to end the violence, most of the European establishment unsurprisingly has sided with Rajoy.
    Add to that list US President Donald Trump, who said he felt Catalonia should remain part of Spain during a press conference with Rajoy last week.
    Meanwhile, a Spanish opposition party has called on Rajoy to implement article 155 of the country’s constitution in Catalonia, which allows Madrid to impose direct rule over the formerly autonomous region, according to the Independent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The Clone Wars are not far off.
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    The Spain Report- @Thespainreport
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    Catalan Police deployed to protect National Police in demonstration in central Barcelona.

    In Barcelona, some protestors have a few National Police vans blocked in a street.

    National Police kicked out of hotels in town in Catalonia after Mayor said she didn't want them.

    Protestors banging pots in protest at Civil Guard lodged outside a hotel in Seu d'Urgell tonight.

    Civil Guards had to leave one town, Calella, and have been met in Igualada by more protestors.


    aw... beating heads and kicking kidneys is exhausting...
    now they can't find a place to lay their heads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    The Spain Report- @Thespainreport
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    Catalan Police deployed to protect National Police in demonstration in central Barcelona.

    In Barcelona, some protestors have a few National Police vans blocked in a street.

    National Police kicked out of hotels in town in Catalonia after Mayor said she didn't want them.

    Protestors banging pots in protest at Civil Guard lodged outside a hotel in Seu d'Urgell tonight.

    Civil Guards had to leave one town, Calella, and have been met in Igualada by more protestors.


    aw... beating heads and kicking kidneys is exhausting...
    now they can't find a place to lay their heads.
    This is one of those many situations I know nothing about (shocker), so I'll keep it brief, but when a sovereign state - as far as both constitutions allow - won't allow fed-types to way their wittle heads because they've made themselves unwelcome, then maybe the fed-types are going about the situation all wrong. The issues seem to be old, unsettled by current events...

    They aren't Catalans, but their push for statehood reminded me of the Basques. We've got a few Basques in the US:
    http://www.nabasque.org/us_basque_population.html
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    El PaŪs in English-@elpaisinenglish
    General strike called in #Catalonia today
    https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/09/29..._rsoc=TW_CM_EN


    (to populate towns/cities to impede National police/Civil Guard efforts to quash/intervene in Independence declaration tomorrow??
    Catalan Parliament will meet on Wednesday, possible independence declaration during the session....)


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    LATEST: Longest traffic jam currently being reported by Catalan traffic authorities is 10.5 km, southbound on AP7 near Girona.



    Roads blocked in Girona, Catalonia:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLM7oa3XcAAHIwf.jpg:large
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLM7pLEXkAAtYgA.jpg
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    LATEST: Catalan transport authorities tell us roads blocked include major motorways and logistics and commercial routes into/out of France.

    LATEST: Catalan regional transport authorities confirm major roads across Catalonia now blocked in 50 places by today's total stoppage.









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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Well, this is the socialism Madrid made at play. Its their own fault if Catalan want full NatSoc and are willing to secede for it. Madrid also blew their best chances at reconciliation it seems like, by denying the first vote took place, suppressing the next vote, and cracking down with a regiment of gendarmes. Pretty stupid of them all the way round; they've lost all credibility atp.
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    They lost.
    They turned friends
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    And said it was their only choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    This is one of those many situations I know nothing about (shocker), so I'll keep it brief, but when a sovereign state - as far as both constitutions allow - won't allow fed-types to way their wittle heads because they've made themselves unwelcome, then maybe the fed-types are going about the situation all wrong. The issues seem to be old, unsettled by current events...

    They aren't Catalans, but their push for statehood reminded me of the Basques. We've got a few Basques in the US:
    http://www.nabasque.org/us_basque_population.html

    The Basques and the Catalans are somewhat related (along with the Asturians).

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    Should we extend refuge status to people from Catalonia?
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    The Spain Report- @Thespainreport

    Ciudadanos says its HQ in Barcelona is surrounded by separatists shouting "Occupation forces out!".



    Separatists have blocked a toll road in Catalonia. Huge queues.

    Today we join the general strike in #Catalonia. Rallies for sovereignty and against police violence in every neighbourhood!

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    It's happening!!! General strike in #Catalonia. PEACEFULLY defending our rights. The firefighters leading the way!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLNPtNZWAAQm-wW.jpg:large
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    Police trade unions demand Rajoy (PM) and Zoido (Home Secretary) resign if they can't stop police officers from being "hunted" in Catalonia.

    Aldin@aldin_ww 42 min.
    Spain Defense Minister thanking Civil Guard and National Police on their service during #CatalanReferendum



    "Total Stoppage": Barcelona Paralyzed By General Strike, Roadblocks As Protesters Take To The Streets



    Catalonia referendum: Thousands protest Spanish police violence







    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLNoSuzXkAE7Ijo.jpg




    Nigel Farage scolds Juncker/EU over Catalonia and Member State plans for an EU Military Police Force:





    Streets of Barcelona are flooded with Catalonians:

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    Madrid thanks Moscow for its position on the referendum in Catalonia
    "We thank the Russian Foreign Ministry for its position on the illegal referendum in Catalonia.
    We continue to inform the Russian government and media about the position of Spain",
    the embassy of Spain announced via its twitter account.

    "We consider the situation in Catalonia as the internal affair of Spain.
    We believe that the events taking place in Catalonia must be developed
    in strict conformity with the Spanish legislation in force", Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova said.
    https://fr.sputniknews.com/internati...ts-referendum/


    King of Spain, Felipe VI, will talk at 21:00 -Madrid time- 19:00 UTC

    King Felipe to speak to the nation before any big new measures on Catalonia have been announced by the Rajoy government since Sunday.



    General strike in #Catalonia is expected to be extended till October 13.



    LIVE: (Barcelona)


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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Should we extend refuge status to people from Catalonia?
    NO, they are leftists of the worst sort, we don't want any of them here.
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    Madrid thanks Moscow for its position on the referendum in Catalonia
    "We thank the Russian Foreign Ministry for its position on the illegal referendum in Catalonia.
    We continue to inform the Russian government and media about the position of Spain",
    the embassy of Spain announced via its twitter account.

    "We consider the situation in Catalonia as the internal affair of Spain.
    We believe that the events taking place in Catalonia must be developed
    in strict conformity with the Spanish legislation in force", Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova said.


    https://fr.sputniknews.com/internati...ts-referendum/


    Russia is already being blamed, IF they are involved they don't want to publicly admit it yet.
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    King Felipe speaks about referendum:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...m-Spain-speech

    Following the controversy surrounding the Catalonia referendum, many people across Spain had hoped the monarch could help bring a peaceful resolution to the crisis.

    The central government in Madrid has described the referendum as illegal.

    This evening in his address, the Spanish King, said: ďFor a long time some entities in Catalonia have not followed the constituion or the law of this country which sets out the way this country is governed.

    ďThis has shown a lack of loyalty to the Government of this country.

    uh, yep...separatist tend to do that.
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    Rika Furude- @Hellstorm901
    If Catalonia's Democracy can bring down Spain and the EU it proves neither were Democratic to begin with.


    Spain King Felipe:
    "We are living through very grave moments for our democratic life."
    "Totally outside law and democracy. They have meant to fracture Spain"
    "Catalan government seeking to illegally proclaim independence."
    "Disloyalty of Catalan Leaders Is Unacceptable"
    "Spain Will Defend Constitutional Order In Catalonia"
    (When a guy, who never was elected to represent anybody, drivels about "our democracy", you can find the situation very surreal...)





    The Spanish King threatens Catalans on TV, with the image of king Charles III, who forbid the Catalan language, behind him.






    Spanish troops in certain depots have been put on readiness alert.

    The Spain Report- @Thespainreport

    Catalan separatist leaders are tweeting urgent messages for protestors to leave demonstration outside police HQ in Barcelona.
    Pro-independence MP Lluis Llach also makes urgent call for people to abandon demonstrations in central Barcelona and outside police hotels.
    Catalan Police warn people to stay calm, "move away from places where people might provoke you".



    Spanish Showdown: Catalonia To Declare Independence "In Days" Puidgemont Says Despite King's Warning

    BBC BREAKING: Catalonia leader says region will declare independence 'within days'






    Rajoy is making same mistakes as Milosevic of Yugoslavia,
    by not negotiating a federation.
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    Nigel Farage Explodes In EU Parliament, Condemns Silence On Shocking Brutality In Catalonia

    https://www.infowars.com/nigel-farage-explodes-in-eu-parliament-condemns-silence-on-shocking-brutality-in-catalonia/
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    Old man convulsing after receiving his dose of "proportionality." Many Spaniards justify the attack.












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    Is a civil war happening?

    A civil war will not happen because the Catalans are not prepared to fight.
    They are pretending to be victims and trying to get the international community to do their work for them.

    Catalonians will not fight a war,
    they like their cosmopolitan life too much
    and are banking on the international community to deal with Spain
    which won't happen.
    Spain will restore order through force,
    imprison the Catalonian independence leaders,
    and possibly invoke Article 155 stripping Catalonian autonomy.

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    Spanish Stocks Slammed To 7-Month Lows As Credit Risk Spikes

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-04/spanish-stocks-slammed-7-month-lows-credit-risk-spikes


    Catalan Police Chief Investigated For Sedition

    https://www.thespainreport.com/articles/1184-171004084549-catalan-police-chief-investigated-for-sedition


    Catalonia To Declare Independence From Spain On Monday

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-04/catalonia-declare-independence-spain-monday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Nigel Farage Explodes In EU Parliament, Condemns Silence On Shocking Brutality In Catalonia

    https://www.infowars.com/nigel-farag...-in-catalonia/
    Here is an interesting comment to the YouTube Post by “Fabian”.
    If anything Nigel went easy on them, and to all the people who think they’re being smart saying he called for less EU in domestic politics, THIS ISN’T POLITICS. It’s human rights, and by article 7 of the Lisbon Treaty, Spain should be suspended from the EU for breaching article 2, and dispatching a branch of the military against an unarmed civilian population.
    Here are the Lisbon Treaty Articles in play.
    Article 2
    The Union is founded on the values of respect for human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights, including the rights of persons belonging to minorities. These values are common to the Member States in a society in which pluralism, non-discrimination, tolerance, justice, solidarity and equality between women and men prevail.
    Article 7
    1. On a reasoned proposal by one third of the Member States, by the European Parliament or by the European Commission, the Council, acting by a majority of four fifths of its members after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament, may determine that there is a clear risk of a serious breach by a Member State of the values referred to in Article 2. Before making such a determination, the Council shall hear the Member State in question and may address recommendations to it, acting in accordance with the same procedure. The Council shall regularly verify that the grounds on which such a determination was made continue to apply.

    2. The European Council, acting by unanimity on a proposal by one third of the Member States or by the European Commission and after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament, may determine the existence of a serious and persistent breach by a Member State of the values referred to in Article 2 after inviting the Member State in question to submit its observations.

    3. Where a determination under paragraph 2 has been made, the Council, acting by a qualified majority, may decide to suspend certain of the rights deriving from the application of the Treaties to the Member State in question, including the voting rights of the representative of the government of that Member State in the Council. In doing so, the Council shall take into account the possible consequences of such a suspension on the rights and obligations of natural and legal persons. The obligations of the Member State in question under the Treaties shall in any case continue to be binding on that State.

    4. The Council, acting by a qualified majority, may decide subsequently to vary or revoke measures taken under paragraph 3 in response to changes in the situation which led to their being imposed.

    5. The voting arrangements applying to the European Parliament, the European Council and the Council for the purposes of this Article are laid down in Article 354of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
    Thanks to Nigel Farage for once again exposing the EU’s blatant hypocrisy. Thanks to Fabian for the Lisbon Treaty comments.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...-lisbon-treaty
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    CATALAN REGIONAL LEADER SAYS ALREADY FEELS LIKE THE PRESIDENT OF A FREE COUNTRY - BILD




    Lindsay- @Lma361Lindsay ∑ 28 sek.
    Panicked Brussels issue Catalonia shock ULTIMATUM: ‘If you quit Spain, you quit EU!’

    Brussels defends use of ‘proportionate force’ in Catalonia (true colors appearing now)
    http://www.politico.eu/article/bruss...-in-catalonia/








    Only took Catalans 'days' to 'see the light'... now Euro-skeptics







    BREAKING: SPANISH GUARDIA CIVIL WANTS TO DISSOLVE CATALAN POLICE FORCES (MOSSOS)

    Sunday confrontation


    THERE ARE REPORTS THAT INDICATE THAT AN ARMED UPRISING OF CATALONIAN POLICE FORCES IS IMMINENT

    CATALAN PRESIDENT COULD ASK POLICE FORCES TO DEFEND THE PEOPLE OF CATALONIA

    SPANISH STOCKS ARE PLUNGING RIGHT NOW!


    ►Even those, who do not support Catalonian independence, protest against Spanish violent crackdown:

    The Spain Report- @<u><a href="http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=40901" target="_blank">The</a></u>spainreport ∑ 20 hod.
    Sign reads: "I don't want independence but I cannot stay at home while they beat my people".
    Via @naciodigital





    Catalan President says open to dialogue - in favour of peace - spoke a while in Spanish rather than Catalan to īpeople of Spain' #Catalonia

    The Spain Report- @<u><a href="http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=40901" target="_blank">The</a></u>spainreport 5 min.
    El Diario reports Rajoy rejects Podemos offer of dialogue with Catalan government and separatist parties.

    The Catalan President Carles Puigdemont has attacked King Felipe VI for "deliberately ignoring millions of Catalans".

    In a TV address, Mr Puigdemont accused the king of adopting the Spanish government's position.

    "This moment calls for mediation," the region's president said. He has indicated that Catalonia could declare independence next week.





    AFP news agency @AFP
    BREAKING Catalan independence declaration could be on Monday: regional govt source

    Catalonia to declare unilateral independence on Monday 9th October. under section 4 of the law of referendums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    CATALAN REGIONAL LEADER SAYS ALREADY FEELS LIKE THE PRESIDENT OF A FREE COUNTRY - BILD




    Lindsay- @Lma361Lindsay ∑ 28 sek.
    Panicked Brussels issue Catalonia shock ULTIMATUM: ‘If you quit Spain, you quit EU!’

    Brussels defends use of ‘proportionate force’ in Catalonia (true colors appearing now)
    http://www.politico.eu/article/bruss...-in-catalonia/








    Only took Catalans 'days' to 'see the light'... now Euro-skeptics







    BREAKING: SPANISH GUARDIA CIVIL WANTS TO DISSOLVE CATALAN POLICE FORCES (MOSSOS)

    THERE ARE REPORTS THAT INDICATE THAT AN ARMED UPRISING OF CATALONIAN POLICE FORCES IS IMMINENT

    CATALAN PRESIDENT COULD ASK POLICE FORCES TO DEFEND THE PEOPLE OF CATALONIA

    SPANISH STOCKS ARE PLUNGING RIGHT NOW!


    ►Even those, who do not support Catalonian independence, protest against Spanish violent crackdown:

    The Spain Report- @Thespainreport ∑ 20 hod.
    Sign reads: "I don't want independence but I cannot stay at home while they beat my people".
    Via @naciodigital





    Catalan President says open to dialogue - in favour of peace - spoke a while in Spanish rather than Catalan to īpeople of Spain' #Catalonia

    The Spain Report- @Thespainreport 5 min.
    El Diario reports Rajoy rejects Podemos offer of dialogue with Catalan government and separatist parties.

    The Catalan President Carles Puigdemont has attacked King Felipe VI for "deliberately ignoring millions of Catalans".

    In a TV address, Mr Puigdemont accused the king of adopting the Spanish government's position.

    "This moment calls for mediation," the region's president said. He has indicated that Catalonia could declare independence next week.





    AFP news agency @AFP
    BREAKING Catalan independence declaration could be on Monday: regional govt source

    Catalonia to declare unilateral independence on Monday 9th October. under section 4 of the law of referendums.
    Chancellor Merkeltine will declare war against the Separatists at some point, probably after several more secessions and/or EUExits take place, then comes the end of the voluntary "Republic" and the beginning of the Empire.

    So who is Dooku?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    So who is Dooku?
    ha. you mean 'Count Dooku'?

    Let's start a new Catalonia thread.... this one's starting to slog from graphix overload....
    you have the honors!


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