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    Default David Sainsbury -Lord Why I believe in the welfare state

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...hropy-benefits

    David Sainsbury, thinks that charity can't be a substitute for welfare.



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    If you're going to post garbage, you could at least include a quote.
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "The monarch is a responsible person. The fact that a monarch is responsible "to God alone," rather than to an assembly or a popular majority, is rather shocking to an agnostic mind; but while God cannot be fooled, the masses can. While it is perhaps true that "one cannot fool all the people all the time," it seems one can fool millions for centuries."

    -Ibid.

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    More feel good mumbo jumbo:

    His main advice to new philanthropists is to do the homework. “First of all decide what it is you really care about and want to change. Because if you’re clear about that then you’ll be prepared to put in the effort of understanding what the issues are in that particular area.”

    And his second is not to go in with fixed ideas. “Don’t try and draw up a great plan of what you’re going to do, because you don’t know,” he says. “Just fund some small projects in the area, then follow them very closely and see what works. Two or three years later you will know who the good guys are in that field, who is doing interesting stuff and what the problems are.” Only then, he says, can you start to effect true change.
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...hropy-benefits

    David Sainsbury, thinks that charity can't be a substitute for welfare.
    Well that settles the issue then. Great work! Just one question, who the $#@! is David Sainsbury?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gold Standard View Post
    Just one question, who the $#@! is David Sainsbury?
    Lord Sainsbury of Turville, that's eehhhwww
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Lord Sainsbury of Turville, that's eehhhwww
    Color me impressed. I guess I should rethink this whole liberty thing then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gold Standard View Post
    Just one question, who the $#@! is David Sainsbury?
    Somebody you are supposed to worship. Please, continue your prayers.
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Somebody you are supposed to worship. Please, continue your prayers.
    Yes, sir. I am beginning to understand. If the Duke of Turdville says that welfarism is the way to go, who am I to disagree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gold Standard View Post
    Yes, sir. I am beginning to understand. If the Duke of Turdville says that welfarism is the way to go, who am I to disagree?
    Exactly. These issues should be of no concern for your little brain and wallet.
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    And his second is not to go in with fixed ideas. “Don’t try and draw up a great plan of what you’re going to do, because you don’t know,” he says. “Just fund some small projects in the area, then follow them very closely and see what works. Two or three years later you will know who the good guys are in that field, who is doing interesting stuff and what the problems are.” Only then, he says, can you start to effect true change.
    Funny, that sounds like the market, contra central planning.
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "The monarch is a responsible person. The fact that a monarch is responsible "to God alone," rather than to an assembly or a popular majority, is rather shocking to an agnostic mind; but while God cannot be fooled, the masses can. While it is perhaps true that "one cannot fool all the people all the time," it seems one can fool millions for centuries."

    -Ibid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Gold Standard View Post
    Yes, sir. I am beginning to understand. If the Duke of Turdville says that welfarism is the way to go, who am I to disagree?
    Can't argue with a British accent.
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    honest relationships that bless the giver and the receiver > theft by a third party with zero accountability because they use aggression and not love in the first place.

    It's all pretty complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Can't argue with a British accent.
    Truth. Mmmmm, quite right, good sir. Pip-pip, cherrio and all that haberdash!
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Folk here don't mind the work houses I'm sure, exploitation and greed. Deluded fantasy of charity solves the problems that welfare does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republicanguy View Post
    Folk here don't mind the work houses I'm sure, exploitation and greed. Deluded fantasy of charity solves the problems that welfare does.
    Why do we need welfare at the current volumes? Isn't this a proof something is truly $#@!ed up?
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    Depends on where you live, in the UK its going to be different than some other European countries, or what is available in America.






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