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Thread: In U.N. speech, Trump threatens to ‘totally destroy North Korea’ and calls Kim Jong Un ‘Rocket

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    We should tolerate and welcome countries we don't agree with. Unless we don't agree with them- then it is OK to threaten them (Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Syria, Muslim countries). He mentioned sovereignty over 20 times in his speech.
    Zip, have you not been watching North Korea shoot bombs toward Japan? Pal, that's about as clear a threat as can be made anywhere. Granted North Korea is pretty small potatoes, but not when you look at the leviathan that is China just to the north. I cannot imagine that the people who surround and protect him see that impotent little worm as any kind of world power. There is something else propping him up. The sabre rattling has to stop. Kim Jong Un is a pernicious little turd, and he needs to cut it out.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    What portions of the speech would you like to discuss?
    Have a go:

    The problem in Venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented, but that socialism has been faithfully implemented.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Have a go:

    The problem in Venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented, but that socialism has been faithfully implemented.
    What are your thoughts on that? Is that a significant portion of the speech?

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    "Hate posts." LOL. Oh come on, Ender. You're one notch away from the snowflake term, "hate speech."
    Riiiiiiiiiiiggghhhhttttt.......

    I'm a snowflake if I would like to see honest discussion instead of constant attacks on certain messengers.
    There is no spoon.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Sad. Nobody actually discusses issues anymore.
    LOL. You posted 4 minutes after I posted the actual speech. There's virtually no way you read the speech in that amount of time.

    Sad, indeed.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Riiiiiiiiiiiggghhhhttttt.......

    I'm a snowflake if I would like to see honest discussion instead of constant attacks on certain messengers.
    Talking to the wrong guy, pal. I am not the one attacking this forum and constantly attacking multiple, legit people here.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 09-19-2017 at 01:22 PM. Reason: Left off word "one."
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Riiiiiiiiiiiggghhhhttttt.......

    I'm a snowflake if I would like to see honest discussion instead of constant attacks on certain messengers.
    I think it is time to clarify what the message of "certain messengers" is.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Zip, have you not been watching North Korea shoot bombs toward Japan? Pal, that's about as clear a threat as can be made anywhere. Granted North Korea is pretty small potatoes, but not when you look at the leviathan that is China just to the north. I cannot imagine that the people who surround and protect him see that impotent little worm as any kind of world power. There is something else propping him up. The sabre rattling has to stop. Kim Jong Un is a pernicious little turd, and he needs to cut it out.
    Do YOU have any idea that the whole Korea problem was caused by the good ol' US of A? That we should keep our $#@!ing noses out of other countries and only come forth in defense?

    If Kim Jong Un is a "pernicious little turd", it ain't our business- we already have one of those in the White House and we need to get HIM to cut it out- that is OUR responsibility.
    There is no spoon.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    I think it is time to clarify what the message of "certain messengers" is.
    You've been doing that for months- tiresome.........
    There is no spoon.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    What portions of the speech would you like to discuss?
    I'll discuss it with people who actually want to have an honest discussion about it. That is obviously not you.

    As per your "drivel" comment, I made substantial posts at 9, 11, 12. 13, and 14. Post 10 is a humor post that partly supports what I said about North Korea blowing itself up.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    LOL. You posted 4 minutes after I posted the actual speech. There's virtually no way you read the speech in that amount of time.

    Sad, indeed.
    Thank you for your relevant contribution to the topic of the thread. Yep- the forum is indeed dead.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    You've been doing that for months- tiresome.........

    Commenting on someone who's been doing it for years.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Thank you for your relevant contribution to the topic of the thread.

    So I was right? You didn't actually even read the speech? Thank you for confirming my point about your disingenuousness.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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  17. #44
    ZippyJuan,

    Did you actually read the speech?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Yep- the forum is indeed dead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The forum is officially dead.

    You wish.

    LOL at your spin. Twice!
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    What do you think are some of the more important points Trump made during the speech?*
    Why are you asking?







    *Taken from the other thread because I don't want that thread littered.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Do YOU have any idea that the whole Korea problem was caused by the good ol' US of A? That we should keep our $#@!ing noses out of other countries and only come forth in defense?

    If Kim Jong Un is a "pernicious little turd", it ain't our business- we already have one of those in the White House and we need to get HIM to cut it out- that is OUR responsibility.
    Let's be fair. The USSR was at least 50% responsible for the current state of Korea, or maybe 33%. The thing would have been resolved entirely if China hadn't freaked out. North Korea was almost beat when they sent the horde over the Yalu River.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 09-19-2017 at 02:23 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
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    It's pretty easy, Zip. Treat people with respect and you will be treated with respect. Act like a dirtbag, and you get treated like a dirtbag. Simple as that.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 09-19-2017 at 03:42 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Let's be fair. The USSR was at least 50% responsible for the current state of Korea, or maybe 33%. The thing would have been resolved entirely if China hadn't freaked out. North Korea was almost beat when they sent the horde over the Yalu River.

    Agree. Things like this are seldom one-sided.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Entire speech sounded like Bush's "Axis of Evil" speech.
    Yup

    His purpose was to characterize the Nork regime as irrational, to preempt any arguments that we should just let them be and rely on MAD.

    ...same as the neocons have been doing with Iran for decades.

    It was a war speech. He's a warmonger.

  25. #51
    Forgive me if I'm wrong, and please correct me if I am, but didn't N. Korea launch a ballistic missile OVER an allied nation?

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Forgive me if I'm wrong, and please correct me if I am, but didn't N. Korea launch a ballistic missile OVER an allied nation?
    Ya, I think it was Japan.
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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Thank you for your relevant contribution to the topic of the thread. Yep- the forum is indeed dead.
    If it is dead, why are you trying so hard? Let it go. Maybe the next one you will get reassigned to will be alive.

  28. #54
    Our best hope is that he is only pretending to be on the path to war to bluff China and Russia into cooperating more, and to help Abe militarize Japan.
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  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Forgive me if I'm wrong, and please correct me if I am, but didn't N. Korea launch a ballistic missile OVER an allied nation?
    The altitude was such that it did not violate their air space.

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    The altitude was such that it did not violate their air space.
    Ah, thank you for the clarification. I admit I've not been keeping up with the situation.



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    If it is dead, why are you trying so hard? Let it go. Maybe the next one you will get reassigned to will be alive.
    The alexa ranking back in October '16, just before the election, was down around 250k. It spiked up to 150k around the election and after innaugeration, through about May or June. Now we are back down to 200k. So, better than we were a year ago when CPUd was jamming up the forum with MSM anti-Trump bs all day long.
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  33. #58
    Mattis: Options exist that wouldn't put Seoul at risk

    http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2017/09/18/tl-sciutto-mattis-north-korea-jake-tapper.cnn




    And just what would those options be?
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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Sad. Nobody actually discusses issues anymore. Who cares that Trump threatened to completely destroy an entire country? The forum is officially dead.
    You seem to be completely ignoring what he said there, i.e. self defense and hopefully not necessary.

    "The United States has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea. Rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. The United States is ready, willing, and able, but hopefully this will not be necessary."

    Ron Paul has spoken about the Just war theory. The theory has several criteria that could very well apply to the North Korea situation. The North Korea Regime is most certainly a public evil that needs to be confronted. Or are you suggesting complete Pacifism and North Korea can do whatever they want?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_w...ust_war_theory
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