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    In U.N. speech, Trump threatens to ‘totally destroy North Korea’ and calls Kim Jong Un ‘Rocket

    Entire speech sounded like Bush's "Axis of Evil" speech.

    One reason North Korea wants nuclear weapons is to act as a deterrent to any possible US military attack. Such words will tell them they are right to be worried and will expand rather than halt their programs.

    NEW YORK — President Trump warned the United Nations in a speech Tuesday that the world faces “great peril” from rogue regimes with powerful weapons and terrorists with expanding reach across the globe, and called on fellow leaders to join the United States in the fight to defeat what he called failed or murderous ideologies and “loser terrorists.”

    “We meet at a time of immense promise and great peril,” Trump said in his maiden address to more than 150 international delegations at the annual U.N. General Assembly. “It is up to us whether we will lift the world to new heights or let it fall into a valley of disrepair.”

    The president's address was highly anticipated around the world for signs of how his administration would engage with the United Nations after he had criticized the organization during his campaign as being bloated and ineffective, and threatened to slash U.S. funding.

    Trump offered a hand to fellow leaders but also called on them to embrace “national sovereignty” and to do more to ensure the prosperity and security of their own countries. Over and over, he stressed the rights and roles of “strong, sovereign nations” even as they band together at the United Nations.

    “I will always put America first just like you, the leaders of your countries, should put your countries first,” Trump said, returning to a campaign theme and the “America First” phrase that has been criticized as isolationist and nationalistic.

    The president warned of growing threats from North Korea and Iran, and he said, “The scourge of our planet is a group of rogue regimes.”

    The North Korean delegation was seated, by chance, in the front row, mere feet from the U.N. podium.

    Trump praised the United Nations for enacting economic sanctions on Pyongyang over its nuclear and ballistic missile tests. But he emphasized that if Kim Jong Un's regime continued to threaten the United States and to destabilize East Asia, his administration would be prepared to defend the country and its allies.

    “The United States has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea,” Trump said, before calling Kim by a nickname he gave the dictator on Twitter over the weekend. “Rocket Man is on a suicide mission for himself.”

    Trump added, “If the righteous many do not confront the wicked few, then evil will triumph.”
    He also was critical of Iran and the nuclear agreement with them (every agreement seems to be the "worse ever")- calling them "an economically depleted rogue state".

    Trump also called the U.N.-backed Iran nuclear deal “one of the worst and most one-sided” agreements ever, and “an embarrassment” to the United States. His voice rising, Trump strongly hinted that his administration could soon declare Tehran out of compliance. That could potentially unravel the accord. Trump and his top aides have been critical of Iran for its support of terrorism in the Middle East.

    “I don't think you've heard the end of it,” Trump said.

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu beamed as he and his wife, Sara, listened to Trump speak. The Israeli leader, an opponent of the international nuclear deal with Iran, was also addressing the world body later Tuesday, a day earlier than usual because he is leaving the gathering in time to spend the Jewish holy days in Israel.

    “In more than 30 years of my acquaintance with the U.N., I have not heard a more courageous and sharp speech,” Netanyahu, a former Israeli ambassador to the body, said after Trump's remarks. “President Trump told the truth about the dangers lurking in the world, and called to face them forcefully to ensure the future of mankind.”

    In a meeting with media executives Tuesday shortly before Trump's address, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said Iran has complied fully with its commitments under the nuclear deal and predicted the United States will be the loser if it “tramples upon” the 2015 agreement.
    “Everyone will clearly see that Iran has lived up to its agreements and that the United States is therefore a country that cannot be trusted,” Rouhani said.

    “We will be the winners,” he added, while the United States “will certainly sustain losses.”

    Rouhani also seemed to suggest a U.S. withdrawal would free Iran from its obligations under the deal, which lifted nuclear-related sanctions in exchange for limits on its nuclear program.
    And in keeping with his "righteous" theme, said Venezuela is going to hell and called terrorists "losers".

    The president also focused on the growing threats of “radical Islamic terrorism,” a phrase he had left out of other recent speeches, including a prime time address to the nation on his Afghanistan strategy. He declared that his administration would not allow “loser terrorists” to “tear up our nation or tear up the entire world.”

    But Trump also cautioned that areas of the world “are in conflict and some, in fact, are going to hell.” He spent a portion of the speech decrying the “disastrous rule” of Venezuela's Nicolás Maduro, whose authoritarian regime has sent the country into political and economic crisis.

    “It is completely unacceptable and we cannot stand by and watch,” Trump said, calling on the United Nations to help the Venezuelan people “regain their freedom and recover their country and restore their democracy.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.493d23952ba9
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-19-2017 at 12:52 PM.



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    DPRK New Service reaction:

    https://twitter.com/DPRK_News?ref_sr...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    DPRK News Service‏ @DPRK_News 1h1 hour ago

    Impotent threats by international shouting magnate Donald Trump are dismissed, as the twitchings of a Dog licking its flea-riddled scrotum.

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    Zippy the Spinmeister. Does your employer reward results or just the efforts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Zippy the Spinmeister. Does your employer reward results or just the efforts?
    I'm sure, every kid gets a trophy.

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    Trump promoting his own properties while there: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0186c2205ac3f

    Trump also took the time to promote one of his New York real estate properties before giving remarks at a meeting about U.N. reform.

    “I actually saw great potential right across the street, to be honest with you,” Trump said, apparently referring to his Trump World Tower property near the United Nations. “And it was only for the reason that the United Nations was here that that turned out to be such a successful project.”

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7955461.html

    North Korea: UN head tells Trump and Kim Jong-un 'We must not sleepwalk our way into nuclear war"

    The head of the UN has issued a stark warning to Donald Trump and the leader of North Korea, saying: “We must not sleepwalk our way into nuclear war.”

    In the opening address to the 2017 UN General Assembly, Secretary General Antonio Guterres said that fiery talk could lead to “fatal misunderstandings”. “This is the time for statesmanship,” he added.

    Speaking as tension between North Korea and the West continues to grow following Pyongyang’s sharp escalation of its testing of intercontinental missiles and nuclear payloads and sabre-rattling from the US, Mr Guterres said “when tensions rise so does chance of miscalculation”.

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    How many of the UN ambassadors are now living lifestyles that would be in any way sustainable in their home nations? These people are like the US Congress with less accountability. They are doing their best to funnel money to themselves and to the people who appoint them, and they do not give a flying fig about what happens back home.

    For once they have heard some truth.

    And other nations, North Korea included, need to stop making threats unless they want those threats answered in real terms. I'm a nonaggressor, but when someone keeps lobbing bombs our way, they need to understand that there will be a response, and a big one.
    #NashvilleStrong

    “I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi

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    ZippyJuan-Soros thread = must ado about nothing.




    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    One reason North Korea wants nuclear weapons is to act as a deterrent to any possible US military attack.
    Nice spin, but totally off the mark. The reason N Korea is posturing is to achieve leverage. They've been doing it for decades. They threaten and cajole in an attempt to get concessions. I suspect China is tired of propping them up, the same way Russia got tired of supporting Cuba.

    China is helping push the tee vee narrative, partly because they are afraid of a flood of Korean refugees. Dumb Americans believe these big bad missile stories. The American government supports the narrative to prop up a sagging economy by pushing for more defenses contracts. That means jobs/work for Marietta GA, Kansas, and many other areas of the country.

    Trump is not doing much different than previous presidents.

    ZippyJuan-Soros not doing much different either on Ron Paul Forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    A substantial missile launch by N Korea means they would be more likely to blow themselves up than anybody else.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 09-19-2017 at 11:45 AM.
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    Think about why anybody in his right mind postures this way. Even if North Korea could launch anything substantial (they can't), it means they would be wiped off the face of the earth. There is, of course, another obvious reason. It's like the person who bluffs and threatens, but has nothing to back it up.
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    What happens when a world leader gets nuclear weapons? Everyone else is threatened, thinking that the world leader will use them.

    Just the opposite happens. Any use of those nuclear weapons by the world leader means he puts himself and his power in peril. World leaders have a lot to lose. They generally don't act foolishly.
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    Talking tough means big money. And jobs, jobs, jobs.




    The 25 Biggest Defense Companies In America



    #25 CACI International
    Global satellite communications equipment supports military intelligence.

    Arms sales: $2.3 billion

    Total profit: $107 million

    Employees: 13,100 people


    While CACI International doesn't make weapons, they supply the U.S. Army with an information lifeline.

    The TROJAN satellite communication systems provide the Army with a global network of shared mission-critical intelligence.

    Source: SIPRI



    #24 Goodrich
    ACES II Aircrew Escape SystemGoodrich Corporation

    Arms sales: $2.2 billion

    Total profit: $579 million


    Employees: 16,300 people


    Goodrich is yet another company to get a piece of the F-35 Lightning II cake. They work on the fighter aircraft's landing system.

    The U.S. Air Force trusts Goodrich with making their ejection seat of choice, the ACES II. It is most widely used ejection seat today and is credited with saving more than 600 lives.



    #23 DynCorp International
    DI personnel unload a propeller to be put on an Army CH-47D Chinookflikr/Kenny Holston 21

    Arms sales: $2.4 billion

    Total profit: $9 million

    Employees: 23,000 people




    DynCorp International provides logistical support to the U.S. government defense programs.

    In Afghanistan, they are engaged in removing and destroying landmines and light weapons.

    They are also involved with supporting air operations and have big contracts with the Department of Defense to maintain rotary and fixed-wing aircraft for all U.S. military branches.

    Source: SIPRI



    #22 Navistar Defense

    Arms sales: $2.4 billion

    Total profit: $223 million

    Employees: 18,700 people


    Navistar Defense is all about military-strength trucks and engines.

    Their MaxxPro (Maximum Protection) product line includes MRAP (Mine Resistant Ambush Protection) vehicles used by the U.S. Marine Corps and the Army. The ambush-protected vehicle has a V-shaped hull to deflect IED blasts away from the troops inside.



    #21 ManTech
    ManTech expertise covers ground, airborne and space systems.flikr/Steve & Jemma Copley

    Arms sales: $2.5 billion

    Total profit: $125 million

    Employees: 10,100 people


    ManTech serves the United States government's advanced technological needs, from maintaining military surveillance systems to detecting incoming attacks on bases. They're a leading provider of C41SR technology.

    The company started off in 1968 by developing the U.S. Navy's war-gaming models.



    #20 Hewlett-Packard
    Arms sales: $2.6 billion

    Total profit: $8.7 billion

    Employees: 324,600 people

    They do more than office supplies and printers.

    Hewlett-Packard (HP) is the creator of the Navy Marine Corps Intranet which connects more than 700,000 military and civilian employee accounts, facilitating secure defense communications.

    It's network size is second only to the Internet itself.



    #19 Textron
    Soldiers loading a OH-58D Kiowa Warrior helicopterflikr/Fort Wainwright Public Affairs Office

    Arms sales: $2.7 billion

    Total profit: $86 million

    Employees: 32,000 people


    Textron owns a number of successful brands, such as Bell Helicopters, Cessna Aircraft Company, and Textron Systems, known for drones and armored vehicles.

    They are the makers of the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior helicopter, which the U.S. Army uses in Afghanistan for armed reconnaissance and light air combat missions. It replaced the AH-Cobra attack helicopter as a scout aircraft for air cavalry troops. Two Kiowa Warriors can fit inside a C-130.



    #18 Rockwell Collins
    Arms sales: $2.9 billion

    Total profit: $561 million

    Employees: 20,000 people

    Rockwell Collins focuses on navigation, communications, and aviation electronics - anything from a helmet-mounted device to a flight deck display on the colossal C-130 tanker transport aircraft.

    As a big customer, the U.S. Army uses the Defense Advanced GPS Receiver, a handheld navigational device for soldiers in the field.



    #17 ATK
    5.56mm M855 small caliber ammunition ATK

    Arms sales: $2.9 billion

    Total profit: $313 million

    Employees: 15,000 people


    Known as ATK, this defense company is the largest provider of ammunition to the U.S. military and its allies.

    From the Lake City Army Ammunition Plant in Missouri, ATK can produce up to 1.4 billion rounds of small-caliber ammunition per year.

    The U.S. Navy has chosen ATK to develop their Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile (AARGM).



    #16 URS
    U.S. Army aviation personnel are trained at Fort Rucker, Alabama.flikr/Fort Rucker

    Arms sales: $3 billion

    Total profit: $288 million

    Employees: 47,000 people


    URS is a world leader in the disposal of weapons of mass destruction.

    They partner with Raytheon (#5) in the Joint, Test, Tactics, and Training (JT3) program which supports the testing and training for weapons systems such as the F-35 Lightning we keep mentioning

    URS also oversees the U.S. military's Basic Combat Skills Training Course, and are responsible for training aviators from the Army, Air Force, NATO and more than 30 other U.S. allies.

    You'll be seeing much more of URS around the world, as they're also behind the design of all future U.S. embassies.


    #15 KBR
    A Blue Angels pilot over Pensacola's Naval Air Stationflikr/Official U.S. Navy Imagery

    Arms sales: $3.3 billion

    Total profit: $327 million

    Employees: 35,000 people


    KBR's defense portfolio focuses on base operations support and maintenance services to military facilities and equipment. The U.S. Navy had KBR lead recovery and repair efforts after Hurricane Ivan destroyed parts of Naval Air Station Pensacola, Florida, in September 2004.

    They're also involved in homeland security, providing systems to help secure borders.


    #14 ITT Exelis
    ITT technology is used for mission critical communicationsITT Exelis

    Arms sales: $4 billion

    Total profit: $654 million

    Employees: 40,000 people


    The corporation's defense branch is called Exelis and is currently partnered with Boeing in a competition to develop the U.S. military's Next Generation Jammer (NGJ) array transmitter technology.

    The NGJ program aims to give U.S. troops total dominance of the electronic battlefield with the ability to disable enemy communications and radars.

    The company also develops the Joint Tactical Radio System's Bowman Waveform, which allows U.S. forces to communicate securely with U.K. troops.


    #13 Pratt & Whitney
    The F135 engine in all its glory.Pratt & Whitney

    Arms sales: $4 billion

    Total profit: Contributed to parent company United Technologies' $4.7 billion

    Employees: 35,000 people


    Pratt & Whitney produces military engines and is responsible for the F135 engine in Lockheed Martin's F-35 Lightning II strike fighter plane, which is slated to be the Allied fighter of the 21st century.

    The company also has engines in the F-22 Raptor, the C-17 Globemaster III, the B-52, and the EA-6B Prowler among other aircrafts. Their impressive client list includes 27 armed forces around the world.



    #12 General Electric
    Electronic warfare specialists from the British Armed Forcesflikr/MATEUS_27:25&25

    Arms sales: $4.3 billion

    Total profit: $11.6 billion

    Employees: 287,000 people


    General Electric makes electronic warfare its business. The company's defense program is focusing on military communications systems that meet the modern threat of hacking and network sabotage.

    They also design products that protect both military systems and the people operating them. The IPS5100 can be used in armored vehicles to give troops 360° situational awareness with the help of panoramic imagery that can be manipulated by touch screen, joystick and game-style controller. Operators can "interact" with the imagery and have eyes on the theatre of operation while staying protected in-vehicle.


    #11 Honeywell
    Chinook helicopters deliver supplies to frontline troopsflikr/Defence Images

    Arms sales: $5.4 billion

    Total profit: $2 billion

    Employees: 130,000 people


    Honeywell's military arm supplies engine parts for anything from the Abrams M1 Main Battle Tank (General Dynamics) and the CH-47 Chinook (Boeing) helicopter, to weapons systems designed by other defense companies that made this list.

    Name any U.S. Air Force aircraft, and you will likely find Honeywell products within its engineering.

    Honeywell also comes up with covert solutions for guided weapons when relying on GPS is out of the question. Bottom line is: they make military stuff work.


    #10 Computer Sciences Corp
    CSC supports U.S. Navy aviation simulator training.defpro.com/U.S. Navy

    Arms sales: $6 billion

    Total profit: $759 million

    Employees: 91,000 people


    With a focus on technology-based solutions, the CSC's aerospace and defense sector is booming. Among its portfolios, it is responsible for training and simulation services for the U.S. military.

    In January this year, the U.S. Navy awarded CSC a $60 million dollar task order to instruct naval aviation simulator training programs.

    The U.S. Army has previously used CSC for designing battlefield simulations to help improve survivability by training soldiers and medics to save lives while under fire.



    #9 Oshkosh
    Keeping pace with rapidly moving forces.Oshkosh Defense

    Arms sales: $7 billion

    Total profit: $790 million

    Employees: 12,400 people


    Oshkosh Truck's defense branch is responsible for delivering severe-duty tactical and armored vehicles.

    The U.S. Marine Corps recently placed a $94 million dollar order for more than 200 Oshkosh LVSR (Logistics Vehicle System Replacement) cargo trucks, the Corps' heavy-payload platform of choice since it first debuted in Afghanistan in 2009.



    #8 SAIC
    SAIC cyber defense services detect and counter e-attacks SAIC

    Arms sales: $8.2 billion

    Total profit: $618 million

    Employees: 43,400 people


    SAIC's national security sector provides the Department of Defense, the FBI and other U.S. government civil agencies with engineering systems and anti-terrorism technologies.

    The SAIC Force Protection Suite, an integrated surveillance system, is used by U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan to decide when and how to respond to enemy threat.


    #7 United Technologies
    Black Hawk helicopters serving the U.S. Army in Afghanistan.flikr/USACEpublicaffairs

    Arms sales: $11.4 billion

    Total profit: $4.7 billion

    Employees: 208,220 people

    United Technologies' military services business is most noted for the UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter, manufactured by subsidiary Sikorsky Aircraft.

    The corporation also develops technology for aerospace and building industries.


    #6 L-3 Communications
    SPYDR is an Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) beast.L-3 Communications

    Arms sales: $13 billion

    Total profit: $95.5 million

    Employees: 63,000 people


    The company's C3ISR (Command, Control, Communications, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance) solutions are used by all branches of the U.S. military.

    L-3 Communications says their small manned airborne intelligence-gathering platform, aptly named SPYDR, is the most versatile and inescapable in the world. It casts a "web" that captures mission-critical intelligence about its targets and delivers the information in real time.


    #5 Raytheon
    Raytheon's guided missile system.Raytheon

    Arms sales: $23 billion

    Total profit: $1.9 billion

    Employees: 46,900 people


    Raytheon's sectors of expertise are missiles and electronics.

    Their intelligence and information systems are used by the Missile Defence Agency, NASA, the Department of Defense and even the United Kingdom's Border Agency.


    #4 General Dynamics
    The Abrams M1 Main Battle Tank flikr/MATEUS_27:25&25

    Arms sales: $24 billion

    Total profit: $2.6 billion

    Employees: 90,000 people


    General Dynamics produces military vehicles such as the legendary Abrams M1 Main Battle Tank, as well as ships, munitions, and military-grade communication systems.

    The company has also been awarded an $8 million dollar contract for work on U.S. Navy nuclear-powered attack submarines.


    #3 Northrop Grumann
    Crew working inside the E-2C Hawkeye, the "eyes" of the U.S. Navy fleet.Northrop Grumann

    Arms sales: $28 billion

    Total profit: $2 billion

    Employees: 117,100 people


    Northrop Grumann's areas of focus include drones and cyber security in support of its homeland security solutions.

    They also develop CBRNE (Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear and Explosives) detection systems in place around the U.S. to identify potential threats.

    The corporation recently pledged to further deepen its commitment to hiring former service members, in partnership with President Obama's Joining Forces initiative to integrate more veterans into the civilian workforce.



    #2 Boeing
    Air Force One, the most recognized symbol of the U.S. presidency.Boeing

    Arms sales: $31.4 billion

    Total profit: $2.9 billion

    Employees: 160,500 people

    The military arm of Boeing's business is most known for the Global Strike military aircraft program.

    It supplies the U.S. military and other international forces with the likes of the AH-64D Apache combat helicopter, drones, missiles like the A160T Hummingbird, and the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet strike fighter.

    The U.S. Air Force favors the F-15E Strike Eagle, which has a perfect air-to-air combat record so far with more than a hundred victories and no losses.



    #1 Lockheed Martin
    The F35-A test fleet stationed at Edwards Air Force Base.Lockheed Martin

    Arms sales: $35.7 billion

    Total profit: $2.9 billion

    Employees: 132,000 people


    Lockheed Martin's main weapons system is the F-35 joint strike fighter, expected to become one of the world's largest military aircraft programs.

    In expanding their F-35 program, Lockheed Martin opened a manufacturing facility in Pinellas Park, Florida, to develop parts for the F-35 Lightning II fighter.
    Many of the products produced by these companies are available nowhere else in the world

    http://www.businessinsider.com/top-2...nternational-1

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Also from the speech: https://qz.com/1081499/unga-2017-tru...-of-the-world/

    “We do not expect diverse countries to share the same cultures, traditions, or even systems of government, but we do expect all nations to uphold these two core sovereign duties: to respect the interests of their own people and the rights of every other sovereign nation.

    “Strong sovereign nations let diverse countries with different values, different cultures, and different dreams not just coexist, but work side by side on the basis of mutual respect.”
    We should tolerate and welcome countries we don't agree with. Unless we don't agree with them- then it is OK to threaten them (Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Syria, Muslim countries). He mentioned sovereignty over 20 times in his speech.

    “In America, we do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example for everyone to watch,”
    Trump asserted that when the UN was founded after World War Two, “we did not seek territorial expansion or attempt to oppose and impose our way of life on others. Instead, we helped build institutions such as this one to defend sovereignty, security, and prosperity for all.”
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-19-2017 at 12:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Also from the speech:
    GoldenEquity already made a thread with the full text of the speech (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ech-Transcript). He did it before you made your thread, but you continue to post nonsense.

    If you're going to start a thread, then that's the way to lead it off. You start with primary source info like the full text of the speech. Not a Washington Post article, which--by the way--you conveniently did not cite.

    I'm sure you don't have much pull, but do me a favor and tell your boss I want to talk with Soros. Tell him to get his ass on here. Richard Spencer was on here, but he got banned. I'm sure Soros won't get banned.


    LOL
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 09-19-2017 at 12:17 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    GoldenEquity already made a thread with the full text of the speech (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ech-Transcript). He did it before you made your thread, but you continue to post nonsense.

    If you're going to start a thread, then that's the way to lead it off. You start with primary source info like the full text of the speech. Not a Washington Post article, which--by the way--you conveniently did not cite.

    I'm sure you don't have much pull, but do me a favor and tell your boss I want to talk with Soros. Tell him to get his ass on here. Richard Spencer was on here, but he got banned. I'm sure Soros won't get banned.


    LOL
    Golden Equity posted the text 45 minutes after this thread was started. Thanks anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    GoldenEquity already made a thread with the full text of the speech (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ech-Transcript). He did it before you made your thread, but you continue to post nonsense.

    If you're going to start a thread, then that's the way to lead it off. You start with primary source info like the full text of the speech. Not a Washington Post article, which--by the way--you conveniently did not cite.

    I'm sure you don't have much pull, but do me a favor and tell your boss I want to talk with Soros. Tell him to get his ass on here. Richard Spencer was on here, but he got banned. I'm sure Soros won't get banned.


    LOL
    Look, I get that you hate Zip, but can these hate posts just STOP? It is totally detracting from the subject, which is rather important, keeps Zip's posts at the top, which should be something not wanted by Zip-haters, and BTW-

    Zippy posted first, not goldenequity.
    There is no spoon.

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Golden Equity posted the text 45 minutes after this thread was started. Thanks anyways.
    Ah, my mistake. I read the wrong time stamps. Thank you for the correction!
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Look, I get that you hate Zip, but can these hate posts just STOP? It is totally detracting from the subject, which is rather important, keeps Zip's posts at the top, which should be something not wanted by Zip-haters, and BTW-

    Zippy posted first, not goldenequity.
    That is the idea- don't address content but try to bury it with drivel and attacks.

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Look, I get that you hate Zip, but can these hate posts just STOP?
    "Hate posts." LOL. Oh come on, Ender. You're one notch away from the snowflake term, "hate speech."
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    That is the idea- don't address content but try to bury it with drivel and attacks.

    I substantially addressed the UN speech issue. You however, come here attacking the forum and everyone here, constantly burying important issues with your drivel. Is that your idea?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    I substantially addressed the UN speech issue. You however, come here attacking the forum and everyone here, constantly burying important issues with your drivel. Is that your idea?
    No, that is yours.

  27. #24
    Yet to be posted by the OP is the actual speech. It is below, free from spin and forum attacking nonsense.




    Mr. Secretary General, Mr. President, world leaders, and distinguished delegates, welcome to New York. It is a profound honor to stand here in my home city as a representative of the American people to address the people of the world. As millions of our citizens continue to suffer the effects of the devastating hurricanes that have struck our country, I want to begin by expressing my appreciation to every leader in this room who has offered assistance and aid. The American people are strong and resilient, and they will emerge from these hardships more determined than ever before.

    Fortunately, the United States has done very well since Election Day last November 8. The stock market is at an all-time high, a record. Unemployment is at its lowest level in 16 years, and because of our regulatory and other reforms, we have more people working in the United States today than ever before. Companies are moving back, creating job growth, the likes of which our country has not seen in a very long time, and it has just been announced that we will be spending almost $700 billion on our military and defense. Our military will soon be the strongest it has ever been. For more than 70 years, in times of war and peace, the leaders of nations, movements, and religions have stood before this assembly.

    Like them, I intend to address some of the very serious threats before us today, but also the enormous potential waiting to be unleashed. We live in a time of extraordinary opportunity. Breakthroughs in science, technology, and medicine are curing illnesses and solving problems that prior generations thought impossible to solve. But each day also brings news of growing dangers that threaten everything we cherish and value. Terrorists and extremists have gathered strength and spread to every region of the planet. Rogue regimes represented in this body not only support terror but threaten other nations and their own people with the most destructive weapons known to humanity.

    Authority and authoritarian powers seek to collapse the values, the systems, and alliances, that prevented conflict and tilted the word toward freedom since World War II. International criminal networks traffic drugs, weapons, people, force dislocation and mass migration, threaten our borders and new forms of aggression exploit technology to menace our citizens. To put it simply, we meet at a time of both immense promise and great peril. It is entirely up to us whether we lift the world to new heights or let it fall into a valley of disrepair. We have it in our power, should we so choose, to lift millions from poverty, to help our citizens realize their dreams, and to ensure that new generations of children are raised free from violence, hatred, and fear.

    This institution was founded in the aftermath of two world wars, to help shape this better future. It was based on the vision that diverse nations could cooperate to protect their sovereignty, preserve their security, and promote their prosperity. It was in the same period exactly 70 years ago that the United States developed the Marshall Plan to help restore Europe. Those these beautiful pillars, they are pillars of peace, sovereignty, security, and prosperity. The Marshall Plan was built on the noble idea that the whole world is safer when nations are strong, independent, and free. As president, Truman said in his message to congress at that time, our support of European recovery is in full accord with our support of the United Nations.

    The success of the United Nations depends upon the independent strength of its members. To overcome the perils of the present, and to achieve the promise of the future, we must begin with the wisdom of the past. Our success depends on a coalition of strong and independent nations that embrace their sovereignty, to promote security, prosperity, and peace, for themselves and for the world. We do not expect diverse countries to share the same cultures, traditions, or even systems of government, but we do expect all nations to uphold these two core sovereign duties, to respect the interests of their own people and the rights of every other sovereign nation.

    This is the beautiful vision of this institution, and this is the foundation for cooperation and success. Strong sovereign nations let diverse countries with different values, different cultures, and different dreams not just coexist, but work side by side on the basis of mutual respect. Strong sovereign nations let their people take ownership of the future and control their own destiny. And strong sovereign nations allow individuals to flourish in the fullness of the life intended by God. In America, we do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example for everyone to watch.

    This week gives our country a special reason to take pride in that example. We are celebrating the 230th anniversary of our beloved Constitution, the oldest constitution still in use in the world today. This timeless document has been the foundation of peace, prosperity, and freedom for the Americans and for countless millions around the globe whose own countries have found inspiration in its respect for human nature, human dignity, and the rule of law. The greatest in the united States Constitution is its first three beautiful words. They are "We the people." Generations of Americans have sacrificed to maintain the promise of those words, the promise of our country and of our great history.

    In America, the people govern, the people rule, and the people are sovereign. I was elected not to take power, but to give power to the American people where it belongs. In foreign affairs, we are renewing this founding principle of sovereignty. Our government's first duty is to its people, to our citizens, to serve their needs, to ensure their safety, to preserve their rights, and to defend their values. As president of the United States, I will always put America first. Just like you, as the leaders of your countries, will always and should always put your countries first.

    All responsible leaders have an obligation to serve their own citizens, and the nation state remains the best vehicle for elevating the human condition. But making a better life for our people also requires us to with work together in close harmony and unity, to create a more safe and peaceful future for all people.

    The United States will forever be a great friend to the world and especially to its allies. But we can no longer be taken advantage of or enter into a one-sided deal where the United States gets nothing in return. As long as I hold this office, I will defend America's interests above all else, but in fulfilling our obligations to our nations, we also realize that it's in everyone's interests to seek the future where all nations can be sovereign, prosperous, and secure.

    America does more than speak for the values expressed in the United Nations charter. Our citizens have paid the ultimate price to defend our freedom and the freedom of many nations represented in this great hall. America's devotion is measured on the battlefields where our young men and women have fought and sacrificed alongside of our allies. From the beaches of Europe to the deserts of the Middle East to the jungles of Asia, it is an eternal credit to the American character that even after we and our allies emerge victorious from the bloodiest war in history, we did not seek territorial expansion or attempt to oppose and impose our way of life on others. Instead, we helped build institutions such as this one to defend the sovereignty, security, and prosperity for all. For the diverse nations of the world, this is our hope.

    We want harmony and friendship, not conflict and strife. We are guided by outcomes, not ideologies. We have a policy of principled realism, rooted in shared goal, interests, and values. That realism forces us to confront the question facing every leader and nation in this room, it is a question we cannot escape or avoid. We will slide down the path of complacency, numb to the challenges, threats, and even wars that we face, or do we have enough strength and pride to confront those dangers today so that our citizens can enjoy peace and prosperity tomorrow.

    If we desire to lift up our citizens, if we aspire to the approval of history, then we must fulfill our sovereign duties to the people we faithfully represent. We must protect our nations, their interests and their futures. We must reject threats to sovereignty from the Ukraine to the South China Sea. We must uphold respect for law, respect for borders, and respect for culture, and the peaceful engagement these allow.

    And just as the founders of this body intended, we must work together and confront together those who threatens us with chaos, turmoil, and terror. The score of our planet today is small regimes that violate every principle that the United Nations is based. They respect neither their own citizens nor the sovereign rights of their countries. If the righteous many do not confront the wicked few, then evil will triumph. When decent people and nations become bystanders to history, the forces of destruction only gather power and strength.

    No one has shown more contempt for other nations and for the well-being of their own people than the depraved regime in North Korea. It is responsible for the starvation deaths of millions of North Koreans. And for the imprisonment, torture, killing, and oppression of countless more. We were all witness to the regime's deadly abuse when an innocent American college student, Otto Warmbier, was returned to America, only to die a few days later.

    We saw it in the assassination of the dictator's brother, using banned nerve agents in an international airport. We know it kidnapped a sweet 13-year-old Japanese girl from a beach in her own country, to enslave her as a language tutor for North Korea's spies. If this is not twisted enough, now North Korea's reckless pursuit of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles threatens the entire world with unthinkable loss of human life. It is an outrage that some nations would not only trade with such a regime, but would arm, supply, and financially support a country that imperils the world with nuclear conflict.

    No nation on Earth has an interest in seeing this band of criminals arm itself with nuclear weapons and missiles. The United States has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea. Rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. The United States is ready, willing, and able, but hopefully this will not be necessary. That's what the United Nations is all about. That's what the United Nations is for. Let's see how they do.

    It is time for North Korea to realize that the denuclearization is its only acceptable future. The United Nations Security Council recently held two unanimous 15-0 votes adopting hard-hitting resolutions against North Korea, and I want to thank China and Russia for joining the vote to impose sanctions, along with all of the other members of the Security Council. Thank you to all involved. But we must do much more.

    It is time for all nations to work together to isolate the Kim regime until it ceases its hostile behavior. We face this decision not only in North Korea; it is far past time for the nations of the world to confront another reckless regime, one that speaks openly of mass murder, vowing death to America, destruction to Israel, and ruin for many leaders and nations in this room.

    The Iranian government masks a corrupt dictatorship behind the false guise of a democracy. It has turned a wealthy country, with a rich history and culture, into an economically depleted rogue state whose chief exports are violence, bloodshed, and chaos. The longest-suffering victims of Iran's leaders are, in fact, its own people. Rather than use its resources to improve Iranian live, its oil profits go to fund Hezbollah and other terrorists that kill innocent Muslims and attack their peaceful Arab and Israeli neighbors.

    This wealth, which rightly belongs to Iran's people, also goes to shore up Bashar al-Assad's dictatorship, fuel Yemen's civil war, and undermine peace throughout the entire Middle East. We cannot let a murderous regime continue these destabilizing activities while building dangerous missiles, and we cannot abide by an agreement if it provides cover for the eventual construction of a nuclear program. The Iran deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions the United States has ever entered into. Frankly, that deal is an embarrassment to the United States, and I don't think you've heard the last of it. Believe me.

    It is time for the entire world to join us in demanding that Iran's government end its pursuit of death and destruction. It is time for the regime to free all Americans and citizens of other nations that they have unjustly detained. Above all, Iran's government must stop supporting terrorists, begin serving its own people, and respect the sovereign rights of its neighbors. The entire world understands that the good people of Iran want change, and, other than the vast military power of the United States, that Iran's people are what their leaders fear the most. This is what causes the regime to restrict internet access, tear down satellite dishes, shoot unarmed student protesters, and imprison political reformers.

    Oppressive regimes cannot endure forever, and the day will come when the people will face a choice. Will they continue down the path of poverty, bloodshed, and terror, or will the Iranian people return to the nation's proud roots as a center of civilization, culture, and wealth, where their people can be happy and prosperous once again? The Iranian regime's support for terror is in stark contrast to the recent commitments of many of its neighbors to fight terrorism and halt its finance, and in Saudi Arabia early last year, I was greatly honored to address the leaders of more than 50 Arab and Muslim nations. We agreed that all responsible nations must work together to confront terrorists and the Islamic extremism that inspires them.

    We will stop radical islamic terrorism because we cannot allow it to tear up our nation and, indeed, to tear up the entire world. We must deny the terrorists' safe haven, transit, funding, and any form of support for their vile and sinister ideology. We must drive them out of our nation. It is time to expose and hold responsible those countries whose support and fi — who support and finance terror groups like al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, the Taliban, and others that slaughter innocent people.

    The United States and our allies are working together throughout the Middle East to crush the loser terrorists and stop the reemergence of safe havens they use to launch attacks on all of our people. Last month I announced a new strategy for victory in the fight against this evil in Afghanistan. From now on, our security interests will dictate the length and scope of military operation, not arbitrary benchmarks and timetables set up by politicians. I have also totally changed the rules of engagement in our fight against the Taliban and other terrorist groups.

    In Syria and Iraq, we have made big gains toward lasting defeat of ISIS. In fact, our country has achieved more against ISIS in the last eight months than it has in many, many years combined. We seek the deescalation of the Syrian conflict, and a political solution that honors the will of the Syrian people. The actions of the criminal regime of Bashar al-Assad, including the use of chemical weapons against his own citizens, even innocent children, shock the conscience of every decent person. No society could be safe if banned chemical weapons are allowed to spread. That is why the United States carried out a missile strike on the airbase that launched the attack.

    We appreciate the efforts of the United Nations' agencies that are providing vital humanitarian assistance in areas liberated from ISIS, and we especially thank Jordan, Turkey, and Lebanon for their role in hosting refugees from the Syrian conflict. The United States is a compassionate nation and has spent billions and billions of dollars in helping to support this effort. We seek an approach to refugee resettlement that is designed to help these horribly treated people and which enables their eventual return to their home countries to be part of the rebuilding process. For the cost of resettling one refugee in the United States, we can assist more than 10 in their home region.

    Out of the goodness of our hearts, we offer financial assistance to hosting countries in the region and we support recent agreements of the G20 nations that will seek to host refugees as close to their home countries as possible. This is the safe, responsible, and humanitarian approach. For decades the United States has dealt with migration challenges here in the Western Hemisphere.

    We have learned that over the long term, uncontrolled migration is deeply unfair to both the sending and the receiving countries. For the sending countries, it reduces domestic pressure to pursue needed political and economic reform and drains them of the human capital necessary to motivate and implement those reforms. For the receiving countries, the substantial costs of uncontrolled migration are born overwhelmingly by low-income citizens whose concerns are often ignored by both media and government.

    I want to salute the work of the United Nations in seeking to address the problems that cause people to flee from their home. The United Nations and African Union led peacekeeping missions to have invaluable contributions in stabilizing conflict in Africa. The United States continues to lead the world in humanitarian assistance, including famine prevention and relief, in South Sudan, Somalia, and northern Nigeria and Yemen.

    We have invested in better health and opportunity all over the world through programs like PEPFAR, which funds AIDS relief, the President’s Malaria Initiative, the Global Health Security Agenda, the Global Fund to End Modern Slavery, and the Women Entrepreneur's Finance Initiative, part of our commitment to empowering women all across the globe.

    We also thank — we also thank the secretary general for recognizing that the United Nations must reform if it is to be an effective partner in confronting threats to sovereignty, security, and prosperity. Too often the focus of this organization has not been on results, but on bureaucracy and process. In some cases, states that seek to subvert this institution's noble end have hijacked the very systems that are supposed to advance them. For example, it is a massive source of embarrassment to the United Nations that some governments with egregious human rights records sit on the UN Human Rights Council.

    The United States is one out of 193 countries in the United Nations, and yet we pay 22 percent of the entire budget and more. In fact, we pay far more than anybody realizes. The United States bears an unfair cost burden, but to be fair, if it could actually accomplish all of its stated goals, especially the goal of peace, this investment would easily be well worth it. Major portions of the world are in conflict, and some, in fact, are going to hell, but the powerful people in this room, under the guidance and auspices of the United Nations, can solve many of these vicious and complex problems. The American people hope that one day soon the United Nations can be a much more accountable and effective advocate for human dignity and freedom around the world.

    In the meantime, we believe that no nation should have to bear a disproportionate share of the burden, militarily or financially. Nations of the world must take a greater role in promoting secure and prosperous societies in their own region. That is why in the Western Hemisphere the United States has stood against the corrupt, destabilizing regime in Cuba and embraced the enduring dream of the Cuban people to live in freedom.

    My administration recently announced that we will not lift sanctions on the Cuban government until it makes fundamental reforms. We have also imposed tough calibrated sanctions on the socialist Maduro regime in Venezuela, which has brought a once thriving nation to the brink of total collapse. The socialist dictatorship of Nicolás Maduro has inflicted terrible pain and suffering on the good people of that country.

    This corrupt regime destroyed a prosperous nation — prosperous nation, by imposing a failed ideology that has produced poverty and misery everywhere it has been tried. To make matters worse, Maduro has defied his own people, stealing power from their elected representatives, to preserve his disastrous rule. The Venezuelan people are starving, and their country is collapsing. Their democratic institutions are being destroyed. The situation is completely unacceptable, and we cannot stand by and watch.

    As a responsible neighbor and friend, we and all others have a goal — that goal is to help them regain their freedom, recover their country, and restore their democracy. I would like to thank leaders in this room for condemning the regime and providing vital support to the Venezuelan people. The United States has taken important steps to hold the regime accountable. We are prepared to take further action if the government of Venezuela persists on its path to impose authoritarian rule on the Venezuelan people.

    We are fortunate to have incredibly strong and healthy trade relationships with many of the Latin American countries gathered here today. Our economic bond forms a critical foundation for advancing peace and prosperity for all of our people and all of our neighbors. I ask every country represented here today to be prepared to do more to address this very real crisis. We call for the full restoration of democracy and political freedoms in Venezuela. The problem in Venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented, but that socialism has been faithfully implemented.

    From the Soviet Union to Cuba to Venezuela, wherever true socialism or communism has been adopted, it has delivered anguish and devastation and failure. Those who preach the tenets of these discredited ideologies only contribute to the continued suffering of the people who live under these cruel systems. America stands with every person living under a brutal regime. Our respect for sovereignty is also a call for action. All people deserve a government that cares for their safety, their interests, and their well-being, including their prosperity. In America, we seek stronger ties of business and trade with all nations of goodwill, but this trade must be fair and it must be reciprocal.

    For too long the American people were told that mammoth, multinational trade deals, unaccountable international tribunals, and powerful global bureaucracies were the best way to promote their success. But as those promises flowed, millions of jobs vanished and thousands of factories disappeared. Others gamed the system and broke the rules, and our great middle class, once the bedrock of American prosperity, was forgotten and left behind, but they are forgotten no more and they will never be forgotten again.

    While America will pursue cooperation and commerce with other nations, we are renewing our commitment to the first duty of every government, the duty of our citizens. This bond is the source of America's strength and that of every responsible nation represented here today. If this organization is to have any hope of successfully confronting the challenges before us, it will depend, as President Truman said some 70 years ago, on the independent strength of its members. If we are to embrace the opportunities of the future and overcome the present dangers together, there can be no substantive for strong, sovereign, and independent nations, nations that are rooted in the histories and invested in their destiny, nations that seek allies to befriend, not enemies to conquer, and most important of all, nations that are home to men and women who are willing to sacrifice for their countries, their fellow citizens, and for all that is best in the human spirit.

    In remembering the great victory that led to this body's founding, we must never forget that those heroes who fought against evil, also fought for the nations that they love. Patriotism led the Poles to die to save Poland, the French to fight for a free France, and the Brits to stand strong for Britain. Today, if we do not invest ourselves, our hearts, our minds, and our nations, if we will not build strong families, safe communities, and healthy societies for ourselves, no one can do it for us.

    This is the ancient wish of every people and the deepest yearning that lives inside every sacred soul. So let this be our mission, and let this be our message to the world. We will fight together, sacrifice together, and stand together for peace, for freedom, for justice, for family, for humanity, and for the almighty God who made us all. Thank you, God bless you, God bless the nations of the world, and God bless the United States of America. Thank you very much.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Yet to be posted by the OP is the actual speech. It is below, free from spin and forum attacking nonsense.
    Thank you for supporting what the OP says.

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Thank you for supporting what the OP says.
    NCL should apologize for not highlighting the most important parts though. Unless you have somebody in your office who does that for you.

  31. #27
    Sad. Nobody actually discusses issues anymore. Who cares that Trump threatened to completely destroy an entire country? The forum is officially dead.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Thank you for supporting what the OP says.

    It doesn't say that. Not only did you not post the speech--you didn't even post a link to your article. Isn't it from the Washington Post?

    If you actually wanted to have an honest discussion, then you would have posted the text of the speech. That's primary source information. That's the starting point.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    It doesn't say that. Not only did you not post the speech--you didn't even post a link to your article. Isn't it from the Washington Post?

    If you actually wanted to have an honest discussion, then you would have posted the text of the speech. That's primary source information. That's the starting point.

    What portions of the speech would you like to discuss?

    (Sorry I missed adding the link- I have corrected the problem).
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-19-2017 at 12:53 PM.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    "Hate posts." LOL. Oh come on, Ender. You're one notch away from the snowflake term, "hate speech."
    Ender is an advocate of a "balanced" approach. Nobody should be subjected to criticism of their posts. Even if they constantly spam the forum with ridiculous claims from their bunker in Venezuela.

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