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    Default Tucker Carlson: Should the govt regulate Google?

    The bigger question, should government regulate any corporations in terms of their size, monopolies etc?

    If, for example, theyre engaged in "suppression" or coercion of competition, shouldn't that be addressed in the courts?

    He poses the question at 2:44

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    How about quit letting Google bribe govt with Lobbyists first? If you dont get rid of the Lobbyists, then it doesnt matter if its Google or whatever follows Google.
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    The bigger question is always
    Should we allow the government to masquerade as a corporation?
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    I completely agree with Tucker.

    Google should be regulated.

    We can't trust Google.

    But we can trust Government, to regulate them, just fine.
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    "Companies", such as Google will just outspend individuals and small businesses in court. Perhaps, an oversight board were complains can be filed and investigated, then the offender fined and issued an administrative injunction against further violations, while if the offender contests to any degree the burden will shift onto them to file in court and the US will defend on behalf of the victim.
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    "Conservatives" used to be vehemently against such things. But I guess that only applied to talk radio.

    Just goes to show that there are very few people who have principles. They all just want a government to work in their favor.
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    Should the government regulate a branch of the NSA? Sure.

    I'm just kidding of course. A "regulated" Google would be even worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    "Conservatives" used to be vehemently against such things. But I guess that only applied to talk radio.

    Just goes to show that there are very few people who have principles. They all just want a government to work in their favor.
    Hm. Well, you know, when government sets up a corporation to hide the fact that it's government, so the Constitution doesn't apply to it, then passes itself laws which prevent the people from competing with its corporation and prevents the laws which apply to other companies from applying to it, some would consider those who approve of this to be 'conservatives'.

    But we all know those people are actually fascists. And not the kind that AntiFa sees behind every rock and tree, either, but actual, true fascists.

    The irony here isn't that conservatives--without the quotation marks--could disapprove of Google, it's that Tucker Carlson could think the answer is more of the same government that created Google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Hm. Well, you know, when government sets up a corporation to hide the fact that it's government, so the Constitution doesn't apply to it, then passes itself laws which prevent the people from competing with its corporation and prevents the laws which apply to other companies from applying to it, some would consider those who approve of this to be 'conservatives'.

    But we all know those people are actually fascists. And not the kind that AntiFa sees behind every rock and tree, either, but actual, true fascists.

    The irony here isn't that conservatives--without the quotation marks--could disapprove of Google, it's that Tucker Carlson could think the answer is more of the same government that created Google.
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    Peer to peer.

    I don't expect to ever hear Tucker/Fox entertain any thought of peer to peer solutions, or competition.
    Peer to peer terrorist activity, fear mongering, and more government? Sure, always lots of that crap.

    Tucker's Thoughts: Google fired James Damore just because he expressed his alternate views on their diversity philosophy and practice. We once trusted Google not to be evil. But it can't be trusted to not distort the free flow of info #Tucker

    F off Tucker. Using fear, outrage and ignorance to get the boiling frogs begging for more heat.

    What are YOU doing to promote peer to peer, liberty solutions?
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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to bunklocoempire again.

    Quote Originally Posted by bunklocoempire View Post
    Peer to peer.
    I don't expect to ever hear Tucker/Fox entertain any thought of peer to peer solutions, or competition.

    What are YOU doing to promote peer to peer, liberty solutions?
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    Using open web standards, WebTorrent connects website users together to form a distributed, decentralized browser-to-browser network for efficient file transfer.
    Why is this cool?

    Imagine a video site like YouTube, where visitors help to host the site's content. The more people that use a WebTorrent-powered website, the faster and more resilient it becomes.

    Browser-to-browser communication cuts out the middle-man and lets people communicate on their own terms. No more client/server – just a network of peers, all equal. WebTorrent is the first step in the journey to redecentralize the Web.

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    I wonder what percentage of internet traffic goes through Google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southron View Post
    I wonder what percentage of internet traffic goes through Google.
    If I understand the Webtorrent concept correctly...
    imagine sites like a 'peoples' Search Engine that 'crawls the data cloud'
    powered by networked-browsers and not (corporate owned) servers.
    (Do I have this right?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    If I understand the Webtorrent concept correctly...
    imagine sites like a 'peoples' Search Engine that 'crawls the data cloud'
    powered by networked-browsers and not (corporate owned) servers.
    (Do I have this right?)
    That's how I understand it.

    A copy of the info that I am searching for can be right next door, yet my info request has to go to the mainland to a central, resource-hogging server, and back again with the info requested, just to retrieve something I could've retrieved from next door? Ludicrous.

    As a computer noob, WebTorrent is exactly how I thought the internet worked when I started going online in the 90's.
    Boy was I wrong. I sure am glad WebTorrent and the concept of freedom that comes with it is available today.

    I find it telling that Google is all down for alternative energy to power itself, but a peer to peer alternative to move away from resource hogging central servers? -not so much. Not that I've found, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    How about quit letting Google bribe govt with Lobbyists first? If you dont get rid of the Lobbyists, then it doesnt matter if its Google or whatever follows Google.
    So we should disregard the constitutional privlege of being able to petition the government? That seems like a cure worse than the symptoms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    So we should disregard the constitutional privlege of being able to petition the government? That seems like a cure worse than the symptoms.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    So we should disregard the constitutional privlege of being able to petition the government? That seems like a cure worse than the symptoms.
    People should have Rights, not Corporations. Google is not acting like a person. And really, Google should be adhering itself to the Constitution, not manipulating lawmakers to bypass and circumvent existing protections so it can make more money at our expense.

    Just my two cents.
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    "Should the goonerment regulate..." -- NO!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    People should have Rights, not Corporations. Google is not acting like a person. And really, Google should be adhering itself to the Constitution, not manipulating lawmakers to bypass and circumvent existing protections so it can make more money at our expense.

    Just my two cents.
    Corporations are groups of people, they have just as many rights as the people in the group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Corporations are groups of people, they have just as many rights as the people in the group.
    Can you put a corporation in jail? Can you deduct living expenses from your taxes like a corporation deducts business expenses? The whole problem is when people want to assign rights to groups, and then people try to fix that problem by giving groups rights. Individuals have rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Can you put a corporation in jail? Can you deduct living expenses from your taxes like a corporation deducts business expenses? The whole problem is when people want to assign rights to groups, and then people try to fix that problem by giving groups rights. Individuals have rights.
    Corporations are in need of reform, but preventing people from exercising their rights together as a group is not one of the needed reforms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Corporations are in need of reform, but preventing people from exercising their rights together as a group is not one of the needed reforms.
    I don't care about preventing people from exercising their rights as a group. I care about one group of people running all of the presidential candidates we get to pick from and they all get financed from the same pocket through a shell company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I don't care about preventing people from exercising their rights as a group. I care about one group of people running all of the presidential candidates we get to pick from and they all get financed from the same pocket through a shell company.
    One of the dangers we have to take with freedom.

    It is possible to beat them because we still have our right to group speech, without it they will be the only voices heard in the smoke filled back rooms and in the "impartial" MSM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The state of American politics is entirely the fault of the American voter.
    bull$#@!, voters don't get any say in the matter. Iraq? We voted two presidents in that was a mandate to get out of Iraq. WE don't have representation and you can't blame people for not wanting to suicide against the government. We play lip service to having free speech because we can bitch about $#@! on the internet but that's not stopping the starvation in the middle east, the creation of a new Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    bull$#@!, voters don't get any say in the matter. Iraq? We voted two presidents in that was a mandate to get out of Iraq. WE don't have representation and you can't blame people for not wanting to suicide against the government. We play lip service to having free speech because we can bitch about $#@! on the internet but that's not stopping the starvation in the middle east, the creation of a new Israel.
    Yeah, there were no better choices than W and Obummer, UH HUH! There was no Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul or any other 3rd party candidates
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yeah, there were no better choices than W and Obummer, UH HUH! There was no Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul or any other 3rd party candidates
    Well I think Ron Paul would of had a good chance in 2011 but Trump would of probably ran 3rd party like he said he would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Well I think Ron Paul would of had a good chance in 2011 but Trump would of probably ran 3rd party like he said he would.
    None of that matters, the voters have had many superior choices to those they selected for decades and they are responsible for our current desperate straits.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    None of that matters, the voters have had many superior choices to those they selected for decades and they are responsible for our current desperate straits.
    Not really that many choices for liberty. Ron Paul made liberty popular again. They stole the election but they can't make us forget the ideas he taught us.

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