We all here want term limits and career politicians will never vote for them

[dude58677]

What we can do is make career politicians unmarketable. We do that by electing nonpoliticians to office. This revolutionary moment happened on November 9. You might not agree with Donald Trump on a lot of issues and I don't when it comes to foreign policy(although he kept some domestic promises through executive order) but someone had to get the ball rolling to inspire others to follow his path. The election was far bigger than Donald Trump. Voting third party is doing same thing and expecting different results is insanity. Voting for nonpoliticians is the best medicine for term limits and to get a free America.

[specsaregood]

What we can do is make career politicians unmarketable. We do that by electing nonpoliticians to office. This revolutionary moment happened on November 9. You might not agree with Donald Trump on a lot of issues and I don't when it comes to foreign policy(although he kept some domestic promises through executive order) but someone had to get the ball rolling to inspire others to follow his path. The election was far bigger than Donald Trump. Voting third party is doing same thing and expecting different results is insanity. Voting for nonpoliticians is the best medicine for term limits and to get a free America.

Nov. 9th? A fair number of such were elected in the tea party wave. eg: Randal Paul and rpfs own Thomas Massie.

[dude58677]

Nov. 9th? A fair number of such were elected in the tea party wave. eg: Randal Paul and rpfs own Thomas Massie.

Yes, but there are too many who only see the Congress as a stepping stone. When it is done at the White House then things change because there is no point making a career out of politics when the people who get elected are nonpoliticians.

[Zippyjuan]

What we can do is make career politicians unmarketable. We do that by electing nonpoliticians to office. This revolutionary moment happened on November 9. You might not agree with Donald Trump on a lot of issues and I don't when it comes to foreign policy(although he kept some domestic promises through executive order) but someone had to get the ball rolling to inspire others to follow his path. The election was far bigger than Donald Trump. Voting third party is doing same thing and expecting different results is insanity. Voting for nonpoliticians is the best medicine for term limits and to get a free America.

So you would prefer guys like Ron and Rand Paul to not stick around as long as they have (term limits gets rid of good people as well as bad).

[Danke]

So you would prefer guys like Ron and Rand Paul to not stick around as long as they have (term limits gets rid of good people as well as bad).

Yes. Net plus.

[dude58677]

So you would prefer guys like Ron and Rand Paul to not stick around as long as they have (term limits gets rid of good people as well as bad).

Ron and Rand are the rarest of career politicians. Nonpoliticians are there for a cause and not a career. We just vote for the ones with the best cause. They are more likely to carry it out and go back to their old life unlike a career politician who is trying to get reelected.

[Zippyjuan]

Ron and Rand are the rarest of career politicians. Nonpoliticians are there for a cause and not a career. We just vote for the ones with the best cause. They are more likely to carry it out and go back to their old life unlike a career politician who is trying to get reelected.

On the other hand, they won't have to worry about pleasing voters and simply try to enrich themselves and their friends during their time in office. And since the elected politicians aren't around long, the real power of government will fall to the career non- elected government workers and the lobbyists.

[dude58677]

On the other hand, they won't have to worry about pleasing voters and simply try to enrich themselves and their friends during their time in office. And since the elected politicians aren't around long, the real power of government will fall to the career non- elected government workers and the lobbyists.

No because politics is not their main passion. In fact they are there because they don't like the way things are going and want to change things. If someone is an athlete, plumber, businessman, musician, etc why would they try to be corrupt? What is the point?

[Zippyjuan]

No because politics is not their main passion. In fact they are there because they don't like the way things are going and want to change things. If someone is an athlete, plumber, businessman, musician, etc why would they try to be corrupt? What is the point?

It is a rare politician who enters politics because they want to benefit others. Those guys don't last long. They primarily want to benefit themselves and feed their egos. They want adoration and wealth and power.

[specsaregood]

So you would prefer guys like Ron and Rand Paul to not stick around as long as they have (term limits gets rid of good people as well as bad).

Seeing as Ron and Randal both support term limits; I'd have to side with them.

[Zippyjuan]

Seeing as Ron and Randal both support term limits; I'd have to side with them.

Are they willing to set a good example and limit their own terms so somebody else can have a chance?

[specsaregood]

Are they willing to set a good example and limit their own terms so somebody else can have a chance?

voluntary term limits aren't term limits at all, they are just deciding not to run again.

[Zippyjuan]

voluntary term limits aren't term limits at all, they are just deciding not to run again.

So they don't really want to limit their own terms.

[phill4paul]

What we can do is make career politicians unmarketable. We do that by electing nonpoliticians to office. This revolutionary moment happened on November 9. You might not agree with Donald Trump on a lot of issues and I don't when it comes to foreign policy(although he kept some domestic promises through executive order) but someone had to get the ball rolling to inspire others to follow his path. The election was far bigger than Donald Trump. Voting third party is doing same thing and expecting different results is insanity. Voting for nonpoliticians is the best medicine for term limits and to get a free America.

Reputation beyond repute.....green blocks.

So you would prefer guys like Ron and Rand Paul to not stick around as long as they have (term limits gets rid of good people as well as bad).

Reputation off the scale....red blocks.


Lol. This forums kills me.

[oyarde]

What if I told you america will not be free ?

[r3volution 3.0]

A person isn't any more likely to pursue good policy just because he's a "non-politician." The whole "I'm not a politician, I'm one of you" is itself a slogan invented by politicians. Just focus on the policies the candidates support (and, more importantly, supported before they started campaigning), regardless of whether the person is a plumber or an 8th term Senator.

[dude58677]

A person isn't any more likely to pursue good policy just because he's a "non-politician." The whole "I'm not a politician, I'm one of you" is itself a slogan invented by politicians. Just focus on the policies the candidates support (and, more importantly, supported before they started campaigning), regardless of whether the person is a plumber or an 8th term Senator.

The career politicians didn't expect that their slogan would actually occur in real life.

[r3volution 3.0]

The career politicians didn't expect that their slogan would actually occur in real life.

[dude58677]

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You expected Hillary to win and you were really SMUG about it.

[Swordsmyth]

Term limits are a bad idea, this is one of the few things I will ever agree with Zippy on, the elite have an inexhaustible supply of rent-a-suits to run, if we force out the few good men we find we will always be buying pigs in pokes with no record.