Growing up as a Catholic (then later converting to Christianity) in suburban Middle America I was raised to believe that the United States was founded as a Christian nation. I recall my Baptist pastor once preaching that the United States was getting less and less Christian and as a result of no longer following Christian values (he brought up how Founding Fathers such as George Washington and Thomas Jefferson adhered to them) this country was on a decline. He went on to preach that the strong endorsement of Christianity was preserved by elected Presidents (bringing up FDR and Reagan as examples of "Great Christian Presidents" since they openly endorsed Christianity and did not acknowledge Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43, nor Obama because they weren't "Christian enough" I reckon) and that this country is declining and headed towards a collapse due to society and elected officials no longer adhering to the Christian values that previous generations in America did.
That said, I do have a quote from Founding Father John Adams from Article 11 in the Treaty of Tripoli that says otherwise:
“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796t.asp
However, here is a quote from Supreme Court Justice Joseph back in 1892:
“One of the beautiful boasts of our municipal jurisprudence is, that Christianity is part of the Common Law, from which it seeks the sanction of its rights, and by which it endeavors to regulate its doctrines. . . There never has been a period, in which the Common Law did not recognize Christianity as lying at its foundations.”
https://christianheritagefellowship....ica-christian/
A quote from Justice Brewer in his book "The United States: A Christian Nation" released in 1905:
"But in what sense can it be called a Christian nation? Not in the sense that Christianity is the established religion or that people are in any matter compelled to support it. On the contrary, the Constitution specifically provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Neither is it Christian in the sense that all of its citizens are either in fact or name Christian. On the contrary, all religions have free scope within our borders. Numbers of our people profess other religions, and many reject all. Nor is it Christian in the sense that a profession of Christianity is a condition of holding office or otherwise engaging in public service, or essential to recognition either politically or socially. In fact, the government as a legal organization is independent of all religions. Nevertheless, we constantly speak of this republic as a Christian Nation—in fact, as the leading Christian Nation of the world. This popular use of the term certainly has significance. It is not a mere creation of the imagination. It is not a term of derision but has substantial basis—one which justifies its use."
Thoughts?
What about at the state level? Weren't laws such as anti-miscegenation laws done in the name of religion?
Quote from a court ruling in Virginia back in 1965:
"Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, Malay, and red, and placed them on separate continents, and but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend the races to mix."
My pastor taught me that Jefferson wanted to keep the state out of the church. But there are 501c3 laws that the government has with churches and doesn't that violate Jefferson's principle?
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