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    Pretty sure that was Vermin Supreme promising ponies, but I get the point.



    Hillary: I Lost Because Bernie Promised Everyone a Pony

    http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/05/hi...about-bernie-s

    Politicians have cultivated economic illiteracy to make their pursuit of power easier.

    Ed Krayewski|Sep. 5, 2017 12:45 pm

    In her forthcoming book about the 2016 election, What Happened, Hillary Clinton complains that her chief opponent in the primaries, Bernie Sanders, consistently undercut her by one-upping her "bold" and "ambitious" proposals without explaining how his policies would work.

    In other words, Sanders did to Clinton what Democrats have done to their critics for years: Frame any worry about the costs and unintended consequences of a program as a lack of concern for the problem the program is supposed to address. After years of cultivating economic illiteracy, the party reaped the results.

    In an excerpt tweeted by a supporter ahead of the book's release, Clinton compared Sanders to the deranged hitchhiker in There's Something About Mary whose get-rich-quick scheme involves cribbing the famous "eight minute abs" program with his own "seven minute abs." Ben Stiller, who picks him up, points out that nothing's stopping him from cutting it down to six-minute abs.

    "On issue after issue, it was like he kept proposing four-minute abs, or even no-minute abs," Clinton complained of Sanders. "Magic abs!"

    Clinton continued by sharing a Facebook post she said someone sent her. The post compared Sanders' various positions to a belief that "America should get a pony." When Clinton expresses skepticism about the idea, Sanders says she thinks "America doesn't deserve a pony" and his supporters declare that Clinton hates ponies. Her clarification that actually she loves ponies is then treated as a flip-flop.

    The reaction to the excerpt helped illustrate Clinton's point. Several Sanders supporters in the Twitter thread complained that Clinton dared to compare single-payer healthcare to ponies. "Funny that she likens no one dying or going into debt because they don't have enough money to a 'pony,'" a typical response read. Projecting the worst possible motives onto your opponents is a lot easier than explaining your own positions.

    On the specific case of single payer, the same process has been playing out in California this year. Supporters of single payer didn't have a plan to overcome the procedural hurdles they faced. So instead they disingenuously blamed Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon, who had to shelf the bill, and for that was the target of mass protests and death threats.

    "Rather than committing to raising the millions of dollars that would be needed to overcome special interests and pass that initiative, they would, apparently, rather deceive their supporters, hiding the realities of California's woeful political structure in favor of a morality play designed to advance careers and aggrandize power," The Intercept's David Dayen explained. "That may sound harsh. It's gentle."

    Clinton has identified a real problem in American politics, even as she elides its roots. Both parties have promoted economic ignorance, because that makes it easier to make wild promises and then find scapegoats when the promises fall through. The consequences are all around us.



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    And our very own Gage Skidmore with photo credits:


    Gage Skidmore

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    Wait, now they are saying Bernie Sanders promised everyone a Pony???

    It's amazing how even post-election the media black-out of Vermin Supreme continues, and among the beltway libertarians!!
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    It lost because it has made itself one of the most hated things in America.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

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    Because A vote for Hildabeast is a vote flushed away.
    They fought the Wars
    They lost.
    They turned friends
    into enemies.
    Who became
    friends of our enemies.
    They stood alone, in splendid isolation,
    And said it was their only choice.

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    At first I thought who is this guy, he looks too old to be running, then I said wow he doesn't have a plan for anything he is promising,but then I thought why do Ron Paul supporters keep supporting this guy??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It lost because it has made itself one of the most hated things in America.
    Evidently it blames Bernie for that in her new book too. Gotta do something to try to sell that pile of toilet paper.

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    Obama promised change, Bernie Vermin promised ponies and Trump promised to make us great and happy again. Hillary didn't promise anything besides more taxes and tyranny and bashed greatness and ponies. No wonder she lost.
    Freedom index

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Obama promised change, Bernie Vermin promised ponies and Trump promised to make us great and happy again. Hillary didn't promise anything besides more taxes and tyranny and bashed greatness and ponies. No wonder she lost.
    Oh, she blames Obama too, saying she only held back from attacking Bernie cuz Obama suggested it.

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    When I was in the 8th grade our football coach scheduled a road game for us with a high school junior varsity team that was mostly Juniors . We beat them 30 - 0 and failed on five 2 point conversions . When we got back we ran 1 1/4 miles as punishment for missed extra points . No excuses were to be heard . The play call for ea of those was the same and a bad one . Run up the middle and they were much bigger than us . All the big plays we had to score that 30 points were runs and plays outside because we were much faster than they . Hillary needs to quit crying and get a coach . The advice Obummer gave her about bernie was right too . Attacking him would have back fired on her . You know you must be bad when an old commie like bernie is taking states from you .

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    she still squakin' about that?

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    she still squakin' about that?
    AWALT

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    At first I thought to myself, "But Hillary, Bernie only ran against you for the race for the Democrat nomination, which you won."

    And maybe she really is being that utterly illogical. But I actually think her logic goes like this:

    1) Bernie would have beaten her by making unrealistic promises if the party didn't cheat to guarantee her victory.

    2) So the party did cheat to guarantee her victory.

    3) Then the party got caught cheating for her.

    4) The resulting fallout from that with voters was enough to make the difference in the general election that she lost.

    5) Therefore, her losing the general election is Bernie's fault for making unrealistic promises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    At first I thought to myself, "But Hillary, Bernie only ran against you for the race for the Democrat nomination, which you won."

    And maybe she really is being that utterly illogical. But I actually think her logic goes like this:

    1) Bernie would have beaten her by making unrealistic promises if the party didn't cheat to guarantee her victory.

    2) So the party did cheat to guarantee her victory.

    3) Then the party got caught cheating for her.

    4) The resulting fallout from that with voters was enough to make the difference in the general election that she lost.

    5) Therefore, her losing the general election is Bernie's fault for making unrealistic promises.
    I read that in her book she blames Bernie for permanently harming her reputation, which carried on through the general election. Typical liberal victimhood b.s. blame everybody but yourself for your failures.

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    She should just look in the mirror and say, I lost because I'm a bitch.

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    Hillary made promises too. People do not want promises. They want liberty.
    "There are two freedoms - the false, where a man is free to do what he likes; the true, where he is free to do what he ought."~~Charles Kingsley

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Hillary made promises too. People do not want promises. They want liberty.
    That's why the politicians who always win are the ones who don't promise people stuff except just liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    At first I thought who is this guy, he looks too old to be running, then I said wow he doesn't have a plan for anything he is promising,but then I thought why do Ron Paul supporters keep supporting this guy??
    I almost didn't know if you were talking about Trump or Supreme.

    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Obama promised change, Bernie Vermin promised ponies and Trump promised to make us great and happy again. Hillary didn't promise anything besides more taxes and tyranny and bashed greatness and ponies. No wonder she lost.
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Oh, she blames Obama too, saying she only held back from attacking Bernie cuz Obama suggested it.
    Hildabeast knows there's no difference between herself and generalissimo Trump. She must know she lost because of Benghazi and the ensuing coverup. Trump's taking the same $#@! she would, for the USG's blithering stupidity and warmongering. Her media sponsors would be covering the USG's swampy ass, while the alt-right would be in crocodile tears.

    So why bother? She must be holding out for 2020 and another cabinet position, because I doubt the Hildabeast is keeping up publicity for Chelsea's sake - she can't possibly be thinking of anyone's well being besides her own. Should we expect her story becomes the textbook narrative? Let me summarize: "Blame the black man; Obama was too polite, too 'Hope&Change.' He doesn't have what it takes, to support stronk womyn, because residual sexism?" The USG love Dr King's token integration, because they've got blacks to blame, when huwites fumble the political pigskin.
    They fought the Wars
    They lost.
    They turned friends
    into enemies.
    Who became
    friends of our enemies.
    They stood alone, in splendid isolation,
    And said it was their only choice.

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    It was total misogyny. Any country who would vote against a woman who promised to give us all living wage jobs at McDonald's and Walmart obviously voted against her gender

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    IShe must know she lost because of Benghazi
    And now she's trying to convince us that's the real spelling for Bernie?
    "There are two freedoms - the false, where a man is free to do what he likes; the true, where he is free to do what he ought."~~Charles Kingsley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    That's why the politicians who always win are the ones who don't promise people stuff except just liberty.
    Excuse me. I was promised a wall.

    Thanks.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    And now she's trying to convince us that's the real spelling for Bernie?
    I don't know about us, but I bet a lot of people will bite. The thing about propaganda is, it doesn't work on your enemies, just your own followers. That's one way how Dems and Reps keep voters chasing their tails, but the book's probably written for her jump on command clique.
    They fought the Wars
    They lost.
    They turned friends
    into enemies.
    Who became
    friends of our enemies.
    They stood alone, in splendid isolation,
    And said it was their only choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    So why bother? She must be holding out for 2020 and another cabinet position, because I doubt the Hildabeast is keeping up publicity for Chelsea's sake - she can't possibly be thinking of anyone's well being besides her own. Should we expect her story becomes the textbook narrative? Let me summarize: "Blame the black man; Obama was too polite, too 'Hope&Change.' He doesn't have what it takes, to support stronk womyn, because residual sexism?" The USG love Dr King's token integration, because they've got blacks to blame, when huwites fumble the political pigskin.
    Well her last book sold so poorly that she has to drum up some type of drama or controversy to try to push her latest POS book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Hillary made promises too. People do not want promises. They want liberty.

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    First it was them Rooskies.

    Now it's Bernie promising ponies.

    Next: The Rooskies blackmailing Bernie into promising ponies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again."

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    Hillary believed she was owed a coronation. She figured that the Republicans would put up a little bit of a fight. But the fact that she actually had to work for the Democratic nomination made her furious.
    Castle/Bradley 2016

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    Very "small government" talking point by Billary. She should switch parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Excuse me. I was promised a wall.

    Thanks.
    All I wanted was free tickets to a Joe Scarborough concert. I therefore had no horse in the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    All I wanted was free tickets to a Joe Scarborough concert. I therefore had no horse in the race.
    Scarborough tickets are super expensive. I had to organize an office raffle just to win one.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

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