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    Obama bad..

    Obama say Trump bad..

    Derfor, ...Trump good!



    ...is the logic FOX is hoping to impress on the readers of this article.

    It's a much more effective line than trying to actually defend the deportation of these people, eh?
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    Cry Me a River abortionist

    Please tell me why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).

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    At this point in time, what Obama thinks, should be irrelevant.

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    How about having compassion for American children? The goddamn left have lost their minds.
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    There is a new Drone King in town.

    http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/...mp-took-office

    U.S. Drone Strikes Have Gone Up 432% Since Trump Took Office


    When he was in office, former President Barack Obama earned the ire of anti-war activists for his expansion of Bush’s drone wars. The Nobel Peace Prize-winning head of state ordered ten times more drone strikes than the previous president, and estimates late in Obama’s presidency showed 49 out of 50 victims were civilians. In 2015, it was reported that up to 90% of drone casualties were not the intended targets.

    Current President Donald Trump campaigned on a less interventionist foreign policy, claiming to be opposed to nation-building and misguided invasions. But less than two months into his presidency, Trump has expanded the drone strikes that plagued Obama’s “peaceful” presidency.​

    According to an analysis from Micah Zenko, an analyst with the Council on Foreign Relations, Trump has markedly increased U.S. drone strikes since taking office. Zenko, who reported earlier this year on the over 26,000 bombs Obama dropped in 2016, summarized the increase:

    “During President Obama’s two terms in office, ​he approved 542 such targeted strikes in 2,920 days—one every 5.4 days. From his inauguration through today, President Trump had approved at least 36 drone strikes or raids in 45 days—one every 1.25 days.”

    That’s an increase of 432 percent.
    With less oversight:

    https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...-drone-strikes

    Report: Trump Gives CIA Authority for Drone Strikes

    President Donald Trump has granted the CIA authority to conduct lethal drone strikes once again, according to a news report, rolling back the limits his predecessor Barack Obama imposed on the spy agency's paramilitary operations.

    The Wall Street Journal on Monday reported Trump decided to return the authority to the CIA after meeting with top agency officials on Jan. 21, a day after taking office. Trump had made accelerating the fight against the Islamic State group and other terrorist organizations a key component of his campaign.

    The Journal reported the CIA has already conducted at least one strike, killing Abu al-Khayr al-Masri, a senior al-Qaida leader in Syria and son-in-law of Osama bin Laden. It's unclear whether the agency has conducted other strikes outside of Syria; the Pentagon did not claim credit for what appears to be an airstrike in Pakistan near the Afghanistan border, which it usually would have if it were responsible.

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    That's funny. Obama the king of drone murders, with his legacy of drone murder precedents, scolding his successor on drone murder legacy he bestowed to his heir. Suddenly he is worried the power he established and abused and imparted to his successor might be abused more than he abused it. ("Don't abuse this power to murder anyone, anywhere, like I have abused it.") Well Duh! Of course it will be abused just as Obama abused it. Of course it will be expanded, just as Obama expanded it. "And don't blame little old me Obama when my successor likewise abuse the power, just because I set the precedents, defended the power to drone murder, expanded that power, delivering it into the hands of my successor."


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    The War First Policy: Expanding Drone Raids

    "The president’s top national security advisers have proposed relaxing two rules. First, the targets of kill missions by the military and the CIA, now generally limited to high-level militants deemed to pose a “continuing and imminent threat” to Americans, would be expanded to include foot-soldier jihadists with no special skills or leadership roles. And second, proposed drone attacks and raids would no longer undergo high-level vetting. … The vetting process to approve proposed strikes would also be significantly reduced and removed in some instances. …

    The CIA is also seeking to gain approval to carry out its own covert drone strikes in active war-zones, such as Iraq and Syria … Unlike the military, the CIA is authorized to strike covertly without any acknowledgment. The agency’s operations are conducted in almost complete secrecy, with little congressional oversight and almost no public discussion.

    The change in policy is likely to see a drastic escalation in the use of drones and commandoes. Earlier this year, Donald Trump agreed to a Pentagon request to exempt large swaths of Yemen and Somalia from the 2013 rules … In August, the president outlined his new Afghanistan strategy, praising the liberalization of the already heavy use of drones … Central to his address was the promise to lift restrictions on military operations and "expand authority for American forces." …

    The plan, in effect, would deepen American military involvement in nations considered to be beyond combat zones, such as the Philippines and Nigeria, and allow the Pentagon and the CIA to target individuals outside war zones or the “areas outside of active hostilities”, without any due process. It does not seem that the new rules will impose any meaningful geographic or temporal constraints. Actually, the administration claims extraordinary powers to kill people anywhere in the world. …

    America has regularly used armed drones in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya and elsewhere for a decade and a half. … the United States is setting a dangerous precedent for other nations. …. it is only a matter of time before non-state actors acquire it. …

    Conducting drone strikes in a country against its will could be seen as an act of war. …

    In 2016, the US Special forces (SOF) conducted missions in 138 countries – roughly 70 percent of the nations on the planet. The legality of these operations is also questioned. In July, Special Operations Command chief Army General, Raymond Thomas, said US SOF deployment in Syria violated international law. …

    Civilian deaths from drone strikes have fueled anti-American sentiments to hinder US security cooperation with foreign governments. They also fomented anger among local populations … The result could be alienating local populations handing recruitment card to terrorist groups.

    The administration is considering a military proposal that would designate various undeclared battlefields worldwide to be “temporary areas of active hostility,” giving commanders same latitude to launch actions as in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. Allowing lower-level commanders to make airstrike decisions in densely populated areas …The US military is still investigating several bombings in Mosul in mid-March that witnesses said killed at least 100 people. …

    The policy marks a stark about-face from Trump's campaign declarations that the US can no longer afford to be the world's policeman. …

    During the first eight months in office, the number of US troops stationed overseas has been ramped up … Donald Trump has ratcheted up operations in Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Somalia. The US is poised to become more engaged in Libya. Donald Trump has taken a decision to expand the operations in Afghanistan. The president has recently made threats of US military action Venezuela and North Korea.

    Wherever you look, there is a mission creep. … The probability of US involvement in a large military conflict that has no relation to the US national security has increased. The world has become less safe. …

    being the world’s policeman does not pay. To the contrary, it could one day cost the nation dearly. But the lesson of Vietnam appears to be forgotten today. At the end of FY 2017 the total government debt in the United States, including federal, state, and local, is expected to be $23.4 trillion. Despite this fact, the country continues to overstretch its military, increase the burden of military expenditure and adopt an aggressive military posture balancing on the brink of getting plunged into a quagmire of another costly long lasting military adventure.
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    So the Obamas went to Puerto Rico to help with relief efforts? Gave a lot of money? Who's he kidding?
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    You need to update your "drone king". Trump is the drone king.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...ama-did-2017-4

    Trump is ordering airstrikes at 5 times the pace Obama did


    US airstrikes in eastern Yemen over the weekend targeted Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, continuing the effort to disrupt "a terror organization that presents a very significant threat to the" US, a Navy spokesman said on Monday.

    The weekend strikes, reportedly about 20 in total and mostly unmanned, brings the total against AQAP since February 28 to 70.

    All told, Trump has ordered 75 drone strikes or raids in non-battlefield settings during his first 74 days in office, according to Micah Zenko, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

    By Zenko's tally, Obama signed off on 542 such strikes during the eight years — or 2,920 days — he spent in office.

    Obama's total works out to about one strike every 5.4 days, the first two strikes coming on January 23, 2009, in Waziristan, Pakistan, and thought to have killed as many as 20 civilians.

    In comparison, since Trump took office, he has overseen about one strike a day on average.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/21/u...s.html?mcubz=0

    Trump Poised to Drop Some Limits on Drone Strikes and Commando Raids

    WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is preparing to dismantle key Obama-era limits on drone strikes and commando raids outside conventional battlefields, according to officials familiar with internal deliberations. The changes would lay the groundwork for possible counterterrorism missions in countries where Islamic militants are active but the United States has not previously tried to kill or capture them.

    President Trump’s top national security advisers have proposed relaxing two rules, the officials said. First, the targets of kill missions by the military and the C.I.A., now generally limited to high-level militants deemed to pose a “continuing and imminent threat” to Americans, would be expanded to include foot-soldier jihadists with no special skills or leadership roles. And second, proposed drone attacks and raids would no longer undergo high-level vetting.
    And no comment on the children Putin has been killing in Syria?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    You need to update your "drone king". Trump is the drone king.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...ama-did-2017-4





    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/21/u...s.html?mcubz=0



    And no comment on the children Putin has been killing in Syria?
    Zippy, Do you think DGP 2.0/ Politica Slave of neocons 2.0 would be suitable in this case?

    If there are details how many minority races children of color he has taken out so far, that should also be added to the record.

    But there has to be balancing actions too, last DGP was being celeberated as Nobel Peace Prize winner by media and was never reported as "hilter" whereas as Trump is routinley called "racist", "hitler" etc.

    This is just from today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Zippy, Do you think DGP 2.0/ Politica Slave of neocons 2.0 would be suitable in this case?

    If there are details how many minority races children of color he has taken out so far, that should also be added to the record.

    But there has to be balancing actions too, last DGP was being celeberated as Nobel Peace Prize winner by media and was never reported as "hilter" whereas as Trump is routinley called "racist", "hitler" etc.

    Thsi is just from today.
    Obama is gone (still fighting old propaganda battles, eh?). And everybody knows that "Obama founded ISIS" is fake. Trump is the Bomber In Chief (as is Putin). Just this week:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-2...report/8987758

    Russian air strikes in Idlib leave 37 civilians dead, observatory says

    Posted Mon at 7:16pm

    Russian air strikes on north-west Syria have killed at least 37 civilians including a dozen children, the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says.


    Civil Defence workers used machinery to search through the rubble after airstrikes hit the northern province of Idlib, Syria.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 09-27-2017 at 07:38 PM.
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    "Be afwaid. Be berry afwaid" Donald Trump.

    The optimists built this country and made it great- not the fearful. Fear can only destroy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Obama is gone (still fighting old propaganda battles, eh?). And everybody knows that "Obama founded ISIS" is fake. Trump is the Bomber In Chief (as is Putin). Just this week:
    Gone where.. and who is expressing compassion for children here?

    Compassion for children: Obama strongly condemns Trump's 'wrong' and 'cruel' decision


    Even if he were gone somewhere, his founding fathers/masters are not gone and probably working on Trump now.

    I would be happy to engage in a debate on this if you are willing express your own views about where you stand on important issues. Do you see both Obama and Trump as SWCs/drone kings? If so, when should they be absolved of taking responsibilties for their actions, one day after they leave office?

    That would be absurd reasoning IMO.

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    Michelle Obama scolds female Trump voters


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Obama is gone (still fighting old propaganda battles, eh?). And everybody knows that "Obama founded ISIS" is fake. Trump is the Bomber In Chief (as is Putin). Just this week:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-2...report/8987758
    Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

    That is the epitome of fake news sources. It is one Jewish guy operating out of his apartment in England who supports Israel in their destruction of Syria.
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