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    Ahead of Hurricane Irma the Governor of the U.S. Virgin Island has activated the National Guard to seize arms, ammunition, explosives and incendiary devices.

    U.S. Virgin Islands Gov. Kenneth Mapp signed an emergency order allowing the seizure of private guns, ammunition, explosives and property the National Guard may need to respond to Hurricane Irma.

    Mapp signed the order Monday in preparation for Hurricane Irma. The order allows the Adjutant General of the Virgin Islands to seize private property they believe necessary to protect the islands, subject to approval by the territory’s Justice Department.

    Mapp issued an emergency declaration Tuesday and mobilized National Guard units to prepare for the massive storm.
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/05/vi...urricane-irma/
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.



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    I see no problem with this.
    The most effective way of battling a hurricane is shooting it. duh.
    They need all the guns and ammo they can get.
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    Am I wrong to assume that the National Guard already has a sufficient supply of guns and ammunition?

    If not, this might actually be a nice place to live.
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    We must prevent property owners from harming looters at all costs.
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    Wow - talk about never letting a crisis go to waste!


    They can't seriously believe people are going to peacefully give up their guns right before they're going to be the most useful, can they?! This could get really, really ugly.
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    I do solemnly swear, that I will collect a paycheck and follow orders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Wow - talk about never letting a crisis go to waste!


    They can't seriously believe people are going to peacefully give up their guns right before they're going to be the most useful, can they?! This could get really, really ugly.
    Well, the good news is that ALL firearms must be registered in the V.I. so it shouldn't take too long to round them up.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Well, the good news is that ALL firearms must be registered in the V.I. so it shouldn't take too long to round them up.

    Lol. Funny.

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    I guess the Constitution does not apply in US territories.
    good to know!

    Please tell me why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).

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    ... & after the storm has passed, their guns will promptly be returned, right?... am I right?

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakey1 View Post
    ... & after the storm has passed, their guns will promptly be returned, right?... am I right?
    If memory serves, something similar happened during Katrina. Several firearms went unrecovered including some antique valuable ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooden Indian View Post
    If memory serves, something similar happened during Katrina. Several firearms went unrecovered including some antique valuable ones.
    bastards

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Will the military follow his illegal order?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    I guess the Constitution does not apply in US territories.
    good to know!
    Or within about an hours drive of canadian and mexican border or within that from ea coast . Most Americans live in a constitution free zone is what I hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Will the military follow his illegal order?
    How does the virgin islands even have National Guard ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    How does the virgin islands even have National Guard ?
    They are the far west of U.S. holdings. The Nazi's could have U-Boats there right now.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    I would like to know how many explosive devices they have on the registry .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Will the military follow his illegal order?
    I have yet to hear The Adjutant General BG Deborah Y. Howell respond...



    or Chief of Staff Col. Linda Cills...

    Last edited by phill4paul; 09-05-2017 at 06:12 PM.
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    On the bright side . Chopping up the first looter with an axe or something is more effective visually for the others . Desperate people do not always seem to mind getting shot . They watch tv and do not think it will hurt . I would go with some flaming arrows too . The smell of burnt flesh is a good looter deterrent .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Or within about an hours drive of canadian and mexican border or within that from ea coast . Most Americans live in a constitution free zone is what I hear.
    From what I've been seeing, the whole darned country is already a constitution free zone... they seldom seem to think about it anyway.

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    Hooboy...

    Time to bury the guns, save one or two which are to be hidden in other ways. Then tell the guardsmen to $#@! off when they come knocking.

    It would appear the governor is ripe for a good, sturdy, and vicious beating.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

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    Sounds like another opportunity for the deep state to practice martial law and test various suppositions and techniques. Much like Katrina. Seems like that's mostly what Katrina was.






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