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    Trump has decided to end DACA, with 6-month delay

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...igrants-242301

    Actual announcement expected Tuesday.

    President Donald Trump has decided to end the Obama-era program that grants work permits to undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as children, according to two sources familiar with his thinking. Senior White House aides huddled Sunday afternoon to discuss the rollout of a decision likely to ignite a political firestorm — and fulfill one of the president’s core campaign promises.

    Trump has wrestled for months with whether to do away with the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, known as DACA. He has faced strong warnings from members of his own party not to scrap the program and struggled with his own misgivings about targeting minors for deportation.

    Conversations with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who argued that Congress — rather than the executive branch — is responsible for writing immigration law, helped persuade the president to terminate the program, the two sources said, though White House aides caution that — as with everything in the Trump White House — nothing is set in stone until an official announcement has been made.

    In a nod to reservations held by many lawmakers, the White House plans to delay the enforcement of the president’s decision for six months, giving Congress a window to act, according to one White House official. But a senior White House aide said that chief of staff John Kelly, who has been running the West Wing policy process on the issue, “thinks Congress should’ve gotten its act together a lot longer ago.”

    Trump is expected to announce his decision on Tuesday, and the White House informed House Speaker Paul Ryan of the president’s decision on Sunday morning, according to a source close to the administration. Ryan had said during a radio interview on Friday that he didn’t think the president should terminate DACA, and that Congress should act on the issue.

    Neither the White House not a spokesman for Ryan immediately responded to requests for comment.

    The president’s expected announcement is likely to shore up his base, which rallied behind his broader campaign message about the importance of enforcing the country’s immigration laws and securing the border. At the same time, the president’s decision is likely to be one of the most contentious of his early administration, opposed by leaders of both parties and by the political establishment more broadly.



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    Ron Paul statements in the past: http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Ron_...mmigration.htm

    Give illegals limbo status: a green card with an asterisk

    Immigrants who can't be sent back due to the magnitude of the problem should not be given citizenship--no amnesty should be granted. Maybe a "green card" with an asterisk could be issued. This in-between status, keeping illegal immigrants in limbo, will be said that it will create a class of 2nd-class citizens. Yet it could be argued that it may well allow some immigrants who come here illegally a beneficial status without automatic citizenship--a much better option than deportation.
    Source: Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.156 , Apr 19, 2011
    Sending 12M illegals home won't & shouldn't happen

    Even with a healthy economy and stricter border controls, the issue of what to do with twelve-million-plus illegals already here would persist. One side says use the U.S. Army, round them up, and ship them home. The other side says give them amnesty, make them full-fledged citizens, and reward the lawbreakers, thus insulting and unfairly penalizing those who have patiently waited and obeyed our immigration laws. The first choice--sending twelve to fifteen million illegals home--isn't going to happen and should not happen. Neither the determination or the ability to accomplish it exists. Besides, if each case is looked at separately, we would find ourselves splitting up families and deporting some who have lived here for decades, if not their entire life, and who never lived for any length of time in Mexico.
    Source: Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.153 , Apr 19, 2011

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    With Dump it is best to wait until he DOES something before believing the rumors.

    But DACA will be struck down by the courts if he doesn't end it.
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    Just ending DACA does little in itself because the Cucks in Congress will be jumping all over themselves to pass legislation granting them amnesty. Trump needs to demand conditions for any amnesty bill. Minimum should be: 1) No Chain Migration for any relative of DACA Amnesty 2) Funding for Wall 3) Passage of Raise Act.

    But he should really add on to those pre-condidtions an end to birthright citizenship as well.

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    Conversations with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who argued that Congress — rather than the executive branch — is responsible for writing immigration law, helped persuade the president to terminate the program,
    That is the relative point. POTUS should not be legislating via executive orders.

    Another example was the recent reversal of the executive order limiting transfer of military equipment to domestic law enforcement. If Congress had passed that and Obama had signed it, Trump would not have been able to reverse it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    With Dump it is best to wait until he DOES something before believing the rumors.

    But DACA will be struck down by the courts if he doesn't end it.
    Did it today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    That is the relative point. POTUS should not be legislating via executive orders.

    Another example was the recent reversal of the executive order limiting transfer of military equipment to domestic law enforcement. If Congress had passed that and Obama had signed it, Trump would not have been able to reverse it.
    Obama was a Constitutional scholar and professor. He took the office with the intent of seeing how far Executive orders could take the country. And the spineless Congress allowed it.



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