The “scheme” is us being forced to transact in fiat that robs one of power and value. If you can’t understand that then I doubt you’ll understand bitcoin’s appeal.Originally Posted by devil21
Seems you’ve closed off your mind anyway if post #1045 and 1047 didn’t help you.
This is a waste of time.
@devil21 has legitimate reasons/concerns that I absolutely agree with.
A few points to make:
1. Bitcoin is in fact part of the "Great Reset".
2. It is extremely volatile, where one can profit enormously, and/or fail miserably.
3. To a degree, "you can't stop the change"; it may be inevitable that "digital" money (nothing but a software program), is the way of the future.
4. This, combined with AI, will permanently bind individuals to the world-wide apparatus grid, where Individualism will no longer exist.
The take away: Never put all of your eggs into one basket. Always diversify; brokerage accounts, IRA, Real Estate, Precious Metals, and Bitcoin if you can accept the risk. Get out of debt=slavery and determine what is best for you and your individual lifestyle.
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.....and bitcoin has lost over $10,000 of fiat value in 2 days. It's a speculative play, that's it.
Cryptos/bitcoin, and soon to be CBDC, is the nothing more than the next iteration of fiat plantation money, developed and rolled out by the usual suspects. This time it's even less private, even less real and even less constitutional. If you can't understand that then I doubt you'll understand why I don't like it. Having said that, I expect the CBDC will be declared gold backed, so I'd rather hold the asset that backs the new money substitute instead of some "competitor" crypto.
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Bitcoin could be a part of the great reset or maybe not. All the research I’ve done it in indicates that it was the culmination of decades of trying to create a counterfeit proof digital money.
Of course diversification is the key everything in investing or saving. That said I can’t imagine any government pursuing a currency that politicians can’t counterfeit in concert with the men in charge.
That said, it makes perfect logical sense that small businesses,large businesses banks and individuals would seek out a store of value that rises as governments inflate. I’m just is suspicious as you guys are of anything new but it seems obvious that this is the reason first and foremost for bitcoins popularly, rather than a scheme. The ease in trading it in gold adds to this case.
Why would a state suddenly back a currency in gold? they could have done that for decades and have not.
Plantation money is created at will by the plantation owners.
The reason Bitcoin rises in price against other assets is because nobody does far has been able to counterfeit it. The moment that that happens the network loses all value.
I agree that it’s transparency is a drawback, but it seems necessary currently. I’ve seen talk about updating the protocol to be more anonymous , It would be great if this happened right about now as many main stream institutions are holding a lot of it and that makes it more legitimate in the eyes of some.
It would be amazing if they had planned to keep bitcoin transparent so that it would be better excepted at first and then somehow they made it more anonymous for the individual after it was excepted in main stream.
I'd get along with you coiners a lot better if you'd just admit that bitcoin is a banker invention, all the claims of "anonymity" and a "threat to the bankers" made over the years in this thread was complete bs, and that you don't really care about any of that. You only care about trying to profit in fiat from the bitcoin ponzi, since the dollar to whatever your crappy national fiat currency exchange rate is gives you an elevated standard of living in your country. I respect honesty, at least. Bull$#@! doesn't go very far with me and certainly doesn't help your case for "investing" in the ponzi.
"excepted"....jeez at least get a grammarly plug-in so your ESL isn't so obvious.
Yeah that's crazy talk, never mind. Carry on.Why would a state suddenly back a currency in gold? they could have done that for decades and have not.
Last edited by devil21; 01-11-2021 at 11:11 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....
Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....
Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.
But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.
Except it's more than half way back up to the all time high already..
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I'd get along with you coiners a lot better if you'd just admit that bitcoin is a banker invention, all the claims of "anonymity" and a "threat to the bankers" made over the years in this thread was complete bs, and that you don't really care about any of that. You only care about trying to profit in fiat from the bitcoin ponzi, since the dollar to whatever your crappy national fiat currency exchange rate is gives you an elevated standard of living in your country. I respect honesty, at least. Bull$#@! doesn't go very far with me and certainly doesn't help your case for "investing" in the ponzi.
"excepted"....jeez at least get a grammarly plug-in so your ESL isn't so obvious.
Yeah that's crazy talk, never mind. Carry on.How do programs that can potentially replace banks -- and credit card systems -- benefit bankers, devil21?
Really, deflationary currencies are a threat to a whole way of life.
Crypto-doom-and-gloomers would get more respect from me if they actually learned a little bit about the currency and posed more legitimate concerns. (My biggest concern: They use these logs to "blackbag" individuals charged with money laundering; which, I think they made possible in a recent bill. This has nothing to do with flaws in the currency, though, and everything to do with the flaws in government.)
Just reread this thread from page 1. I've posted plenty of info for years that indicates that cryptos are a banker invention meant to further tighten control. The Rothschilds magazine announced it literally 33 years ago yet *crickets*
Last edited by devil21; 01-16-2021 at 10:25 AM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....
Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....
Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.
But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.
Forbes has a crypto webinar next Tue. Usually someplace like forbes isn't the best place to get the most current news but may be worth it.
https://forbes.zoom.us/webinar/regis...ica%2FNew_York
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BTC: 1AFbCLYU3G1dkbsSJnk3spWeEwpqYVC2Pq
Are bit coins tradeable? If they are then I I guess it does not matter ultimately who invented it. I find it interesting if you have some you want to get rid of PM me and I will send you my wallet address.
have anyone experience in bitcoin local payments?
You can trade them for gold if you want..
https://www.apmex.com/product/218622...-gold-eagle-bu
You mean buying bitcoin from a local person? Watch out, the feds have arrested some people for doing that as it can be considered an illegal money transmitting service. It has been a few years since I've seen such a report but it's worth being careful about.
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BTC: 1AFbCLYU3G1dkbsSJnk3spWeEwpqYVC2Pq
Just my .02 but the account you replied to looks very suspect.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....
Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....
Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.
But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.
lol...Why would someone want to put their face on something like that, and open themselves up to legal perse-prosecution? (I guess I'll be waiting just as long before you answer any of my questions...)
Extreme confirmation bias might be where most mental disorders come from. (Your comment was in regard to a coin-telegraph link.)
Thanks for suggesting I re-read the thread, though! (Initially, when I first read your post, I thought you meant YOU reread it!)
I didn't make it through the whole thing yet, but you were combative and dismissive from the beginning, weren't you? (You were the one who wrote the presumable answers already, so it should be easy for you to remember and direct me to the corresponding, relative posts. You're here to waste your time and mine, though, apparently! [Those answers don't exist; or, your reasoning isn't as solid as you believe it is.])
^^^^^^^ blah blah blah. Combative and dismissive because I know how the bankers herd the sheep into their next planned fake money system and have called it in this thread even before Fedcoin/CBDC was made public. Fedcoin is just around the corner and the puzzle pieces are being put into place to regulate the hell out of bitcoin, possibly to the point of being nearly worthless. You think Janet Yellen and Gary Gensler are going to be on your side? LOL
All that is great and thanks for your thoughts but no one has refuted, with any evidence whatsoever, my claim from the start that bitcoin is an NSA/MIT invention or address the 1988 Economist cover that not only told us it was going to happen but even was so bold as to code the $#@!in' name they'd push and the even the calendar years they'd push it right into the cover.
The difference between you and me is that I give credit where it is due but you will not. I have said repeatedly that I hope people do well playing with bitcoin and I'm sure some have. Good for them. But know what it is and that the greed comes at a price for everyone else, as you help herd everyone into their next fake money paradigm. You will not, however, give me credit for pegging the bigger agenda from day 1.
Last edited by devil21; 01-23-2021 at 08:34 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....
Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....
Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.
But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.
Ultimately, their decrees mean nothing without violence.
Bitcoin can either free you from bankers, or help them enslave you. (Really, that's up to you!)
Check out Mr. Robot. (E-Coin -- "FedCoin" -- versus Bitcoin!)
Mr. Robot? Yes, let's look to Hollywood for guidance. They surely do not push agendas and predictive programming via television shows.
smh
If you're not a shill, proph, you are very, very uninformed about how the sheep are herded.
Last edited by devil21; 01-23-2021 at 10:03 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....
Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....
Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.
But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.
"Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill!"
It's easier to dismiss others and ignore them than have an actual, honest conversation. (You won't even entertain the thought that you might possibly be wrong!)
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