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    Alts are going crazy this weekend. ADA moved into the #5 coin spot. Even the small cap coins are on a big boost. I'm not sure what to credit this to - moving out of BTC at the end of the year to find the next moon? New players in the game realizing there are lots of alts out there? McAfee making his coin choices have massive interest and alts are growing as a whole?
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    people don't understand $#@! about crypto.

    they just buy cheap alts because it has more upside... there is a massive bubble in alts. people think Bitcoin is the bubble. but they don't see the whole picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    people don't understand $#@! about crypto.

    they just buy cheap alts because it has more upside... there is a massive bubble in alts. people think Bitcoin is the bubble. but they don't see the whole picture.

    A lot of people see a crypto is only $0.05 per coin so it must be cheap. Under $1 is getting in on the ground floor! It's like buying a stock because of the price per share with no regard for how many shares outstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    people don't understand $#@! about crypto.

    they just buy cheap alts because it has more upside... there is a massive bubble in alts. people think Bitcoin is the bubble. but they don't see the whole picture.
    I don't even understand crypto and I've been involved in computing from almost the beginning. Started programming in the 80's and still do all our office tech (and home of course). I trade in crypto as a hobby (not very good at it) but I really don't understand the blockchain and the encryption. I'm getting old and slow though so that could have something to do with it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    I don't even understand crypto and I've been involved in computing from almost the beginning. Started programming in the 80's and still do all our office tech (and home of course). I trade in crypto as a hobby (not very good at it) but I really don't understand the blockchain and the encryption. I'm getting old and slow though so that could have something to do with it...
    i am a computer engineer..

    the best little known coin i know is Pascal Coin. You can only buy it on Poloniex. Get a wallet http://www.pascalcoin.org/#wallets

    The wallet is ugly but it works like a charm and Pascal Coin has solved the scalability issue with a smart design choice. Few people already know that.
    For me right now Pascal coin has a huge upside potential. it is not a $#@! coin. I have been a bitcoiner and maximalist. but coins like Pascal made me reconsider.
    trust me. buy 100 pascal and HODL. you will thank me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    It can be exchanged for USD the same way that Yen or Francs can. Someone who owns BTC can make a few mouse clicks and make purchases 48 hours later. Sounds like money to me.
    "Buying" something with bitcoin is the same as claiming you are buying something with a share of Intel stock.


    LOL@jawboning bitcoin back up with "libertarian" Peter Thiel today. Looked to be faltering and then wham, Peter Thiel is trotted out to push it back up. He's a libertarian, dontcha know? A libertarian Bilderberger that develops big brother software for the NSA. But he's a libertarian so buy some more bitcoin. Cuz libertarian. Libertarian.

    And bitcoin is so not an NSA creation. Cuz libertarians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    i am a computer engineer..

    the best little known coin i know is Pascal Coin. You can only buy it on Poloniex. Get a wallet http://www.pascalcoin.org/#wallets

    The wallet is ugly but it works like a charm and Pascal Coin has solved the scalability issue with a smart design choice. Few people already know that.
    For me right now Pascal coin has a huge upside potential. it is not a $#@! coin. I have been a bitcoiner and maximalist. but coins like Pascal made me reconsider.
    trust me. buy 100 pascal and HODL. you will thank me.
    Hmmmm. Pascal was my favorite programming language back in the day. I'll have to give it a try. Do I have to buy Pascal coin with another crypto?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    Hmmmm. Pascal was my favorite programming language back in the day. I'll have to give it a try. Do I have to buy Pascal coin with another crypto?
    You will need to create an account at poloniex then send some bitcoin or litecoin or something over to your account at poloniex and trade that for Pascal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    Hmmmm. Pascal was my favorite programming language back in the day. I'll have to give it a try. Do I have to buy Pascal coin with another crypto?
    1 buy btc. send btc to poloniex. buy pasc.
    2 install wallet.. launch.. synch in a few minutes. go to menu Project -> Private Keys. Select wallet. Press button Export Public Key (should be in your clipboard)
    3 install telegram. go to channel https://t.me/pascalcoinofficial enter the command /getpasa copypasteyourpublickeyherewithaspace after getpasa

    This faucet will link a free account to the public key of your wallet. Check box Explore Account with one of my Wallet Keys. Refresh You will soon see the account.

    Withdraw PASC coins to the account number from Poloniex. No need for Payloads.

    IF you want to buy more PASA.. go to https://www.pascwallet.com/ there is a small market for those. but you will have to buy them.

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    ETH continuing its bull run, 900down, 1K next up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    ETH continuing its bull run, 900down, 1K next up.
    Cardano is gaining fast on ETH, it's up to 27 Billion. It has a co-founder of Eth running it and their claim is smart contracts done right. It's up 15X from November.

    https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cardano/
    Last edited by kpitcher; 01-03-2018 at 03:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    It can be exchanged for USD the same way that Yen or Francs can. Someone who owns BTC can make a few mouse clicks and make purchases 48 hours later. Sounds like money to me.
    BTC doesn't have durability the way physical money does. It's currency, not money.
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    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    "Buying" something with bitcoin is the same as claiming you are buying something with a share of Intel stock.


    LOL@jawboning bitcoin back up with "libertarian" Peter Thiel today. Looked to be faltering and then wham, Peter Thiel is trotted out to push it back up. He's a libertarian, dontcha know? A libertarian Bilderberger that develops big brother software for the NSA. But he's a libertarian so buy some more bitcoin. Cuz libertarian. Libertarian.

    And bitcoin is so not an NSA creation. Cuz libertarians.
    Using a currency or medium of exchange of some sort to facilitate the exchange of goods/services is in fact what we refer to as "buying" in Murica.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RPEphesians 6:12 (KJV)//I sell stuff here go buy nao!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    Cardano is gaining fast on ETH, it's up to 27 Billion. It has a co-founder of Eth running it and their claim is smart contracts done right. It's up 15X from November.

    https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cardano/
    I heard EOS may have a run against ETH as well.

    Have you looked into IOTA? It's a coin based on the internet of things, and while people like AF may be turned off at first it looks to be about securing and privatizing data in the IOT (internet of things) paradigm.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I heard EOS may have a run against ETH as well.

    Have you looked into IOTA? It's a coin based on the internet of things, and while people like AF may be turned off at first it looks to be about securing and privatizing data in the IOT (internet of things) paradigm.
    Thats awesome, my wife can earn her allowance automatically based on her vacuum cleaner, dishwasher, stove usage data.

    In addition to her other chores ofc
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Thats awesome, my wife can earn her allowance automatically based on her vacuum cleaner, dishwasher, stove usage data.

    In addition to her other chores ofc
    Yes, and the government won't be able to come after you for paying her slave wages because it's all encrypted.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Using a currency or medium of exchange of some sort to facilitate the exchange of goods/services is in fact what we refer to as "buying" in Murica.
    If you direct Fidelity to convert a share of Intel stock to dollars then Fidelity remits those dollars to a seller of a trinket, you would define the share of Intel stock as "currency" or a "medium of exchange", instead of a security? Interesting. I consider something as currency when it is DIRECTLY exchangeable for goods/services and does not require conversions (different national currencies notwithstanding).
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    If you direct Fidelity to convert a share of Intel stock to dollars then Fidelity remits those dollars to a seller of a trinket, you would define the share of Intel stock as "currency" or a "medium of exchange", instead of a security? Interesting. I consider something as currency when it is DIRECTLY exchangeable for goods/services and does not require conversions (different national currencies notwithstanding).
    A trinket is not a medium of exchange(except in primitive bartering economies, perhaps, but that's not within the scope of this thread). Surely you must be joking me with this entire post.
    Last edited by heavenlyboy34; 01-03-2018 at 08:08 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RPEphesians 6:12 (KJV)//I sell stuff here go buy nao!

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    A trinket is not a medium of exchange(except in primitive bartering economies, perhaps, but that's not within the scope of this thread). Surely you must be joking me with this entire post.
    You do understand that no retailer accepts bitcoin directly as payment, yes? They all employ an exchange like Bitpay that converts bitcoin units to dollar units, then the exchange remits dollars to the retailer. The retailer is paid in dollars, not bitcoin. Saying you are buying from a retailer using bitcoin is like saying you are buying from a retailer using an Intel share. The trinket is what the retailer ships you after receiving the dollar units.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    You do understand that no retailer accepts bitcoin directly as payment, yes? They all employ an exchange like Bitpay that converts bitcoin units to dollar units, then the exchange remits dollars to the retailer. The retailer is paid in dollars, not bitcoin. Saying you are buying from a retailer using bitcoin is like saying you are buying from a retailer using an Intel share. The trinket is what the retailer ships you after receiving the dollar units.
    Some retailers do but yes, overall it's still very rare until a complete supply chain can be entirely paid in crypto. Overstock is keeping 50% of all bitcoin payments as bitcoin, up from the 10% it used to hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    You do understand that no retailer accepts bitcoin directly as payment, yes? They all employ an exchange like Bitpay that converts bitcoin units to dollar units, then the exchange remits dollars to the retailer. The retailer is paid in dollars, not bitcoin. Saying you are buying from a retailer using bitcoin is like saying you are buying from a retailer using an Intel share. The trinket is what the retailer ships you after receiving the dollar units.
    some do. stop lying. porn web sites sure do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    ETH continuing its bull run, 900down, 1K next up.
    id be surprised if it doesn't crack 1k today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    some do. stop lying. porn web sites sure do.
    Who pays for porn anymore?
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Who pays for porn anymore?
    Enough for it to still exist :

    " LiveJasmin is the largest internet cam host in the world. Between 35 and 40 million users visit it daily, and at any given moment, there are 2,000 models live online. It is not hard to understand how the web-cam industry, overall, generated an estimated $2-3bn in 2016"
    “…let us teach them that all who draw breath are of equal worth, and that those who seek to press heel upon the throat of liberty, will fall to the cry of FREEDOM!!!” – Spartacus, War of the Damned

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpitcher View Post
    Enough for it to still exist :

    " LiveJasmin is the largest internet cam host in the world. Between 35 and 40 million users visit it daily, and at any given moment, there are 2,000 models live online. It is not hard to understand how the web-cam industry, overall, generated an estimated $2-3bn in 2016"
    Fine, you win. We can use bitcoin to watch Mordan's balkan girlfriend diddle herself for 15 minutes. Not sure how that's a "retailer" (there's a tail joke in here somewhere) by definition, however.
    Last edited by devil21; 01-04-2018 at 06:26 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

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    Outer Banks NC Fishing Boat Rentals

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    id be surprised if it doesn't crack 1k today.
    https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/04/et...he-first-time/
    Ethereum breaks new record by reaching $1,000 for the first time

    Ethereum tokens (ethers) have reached $1,000 on multiple major exchanges for the first time ever. This is an all-time high and the result of a multiple-day rally. The total market capitalization of ethers currently available is now $100 billion.

    And yet, ethers only represent around 13 percent of all cryptocurrencies out there. 2017 may have been a huge year for cryptocurrencies across the board, but one of the most important stories is that there are now many different tokens worth tens of billions of dollars when it comes to market capitalization.

    One ether was worth between $700 and $800 for most of the second half of December. But over the past seven days, ethers have been trading up 40 percent.

    Despite this incredible performance, Ripple is still the second biggest cryptocurrency by market capitalization. Somehow, Ripple has been up over 1,300 percent over the last 30 days. Ethereum has been lagging behind Ripple because of this rally.

    Bitcoin is becoming less and less dominant. It now represents 32.5 percent of the value of all cryptocurrencies in circulation.

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    Uh oh.

    Visa bans several cryptocurrency-backed cards, leaving thousands in the lurch
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/05/visa...ked-cards.html

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