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Thread: Amazon's price cuts at Whole Foods are 'more bark than bite,' says analyst

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    Amazon's price cuts at Whole Foods are 'more bark than bite,' says analyst

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/29/amaz...than-bite.html

    Amazon made steep discounts — by as much as 43% – at Whole Foods on Monday, sending shockwaves across the grocery retail space.

    But a closer look at a broader set of products suggest the discounts are still modest, according to Gordon Haskett analyst Charles Grom.

    Grom wrote in a note published Tuesday that the average price of 114 products he tracked from last week declined by only 1.2% week-over-week as of Monday. The deepest discounts came from the dairy/yogurt category (5.6%), but 78% of the 114 products he tracked didn't see any discounts, meaning it remains to be seen how far Amazon will go with its price cutting.

    Grom's analysis may be limited because it comes from a single Whole Foods location in Princeton, New Jersy, and a basket of products that were chosen arbitrarily. Still, the results show the market's initial reaction to Amazon's announcement to cut prices at Whole Foods may have been a little overblown, Grom suggests.

    "We will continue to monitor the situation going forward, but our initial checks suggest that Amazon's bark may be greater than its bite," Grom wrote in the note.

    Amazon announced last week that it would start offering lower prices at Whole Foods on "a selection of best-selling grocery staples" starting Monday, and named 15 items that would get discounted. When CNBC visited a Whole Foods store in New York City on Monday, a staff member said more than 300 products were being discounted.

    Grom's item list included popular drinks like Vitamin Water and La Croix sparkling water, as well as an assortment of dairy and grocery products.

    Given Amazon said the price cuts would be rolled out to more products going forward, it's probably too fast to jump to conclusions at this point. But Grom pointed out Amazon is taking a page out of Wal-Mart's old playbook, "announcing a plethora of price actions that on the surface look deep, but in reality only reveal modest reductions," he wrote in the note.



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    I guess Amazon hasn't been buying enough advertising time from NBC lately. Or, at least, NBC doesn't think so.

    Grom's item list included popular drinks like Vitamin Water and La Croix sparkling water...
    Oh, yeah, popular stuff, that. Has Coke and Pepsi shaking in their boots.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 08-31-2017 at 12:45 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I guess Amazon hasn't been buying enough advertising time from NBC lately. Or, at least, NBC doesn't think so.
    Not just NBC noting this. List of their price cuts:


    Stores tend to run "loss leaders"- items they sell at or even below their costs to try to get people into their stores and raise other prices to make up the differences. Bananas, milk, and eggs being popular items to target. If you buy say a bunch of bananas, based on this price list you just saved $0.60 on your grocery bill. (You can now buy Amazon's Echo and Dot at Whole Foods too).
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 08-31-2017 at 12:52 PM.

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    Nice to see Bloomberg keeping us all informed on prices in Manhattan. God knows that's a lot more useful than telling us who was pushing the Russian Hacking Hoax, or keeping us up to date on how many innocent civilians the ammo we bought has killed and maimed in the Middle East this week.

    Considering the rate at which your masters at the Fed are devaluing our salaries and savings, I don't think any price cuts deserve to be downplayed by NBC--or anyone else. You'd think NBC--and you--would be trying to sell this as proof there's no inflation. It's a tactic your predecessors on that account have used from time to time.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 08-31-2017 at 01:04 PM.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Sounds deflationary.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Not just NBC noting this. List of their price cuts:


    Stores tend to run "loss leaders"- items they sell at or even below their costs to try to get people into their stores and raise other prices to make up the differences. Bananas, milk, and eggs being popular items to target. If you buy say a bunch of bananas, based on this price list you just saved $0.60 on your grocery bill. (You can now buy Amazon's Echo and Dot at Whole Foods too).
    That is insane , they were getting14 FRNs for a rotary chicken and now they are 10 ? I can get thos at my local grocer/butcher for 5 .

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    Zippy, thank you for investigating this important topic so we don't have to.



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