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Stations as far north as Augusta, Ga are out of gas.
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Gas prices in the Piedmont, NC have risen .50 cent a gallon. $2.19 a week ago and now $2.69. Into the weekend I'm sure it will go higher. I'm not a fan of government charging companies for price gouging. Supply and demand. Free market. Somehow gas/oil seems to be able to skirt these rules and fines. Lol.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh...l/071451.shtmlZCZC MIATCPAT1 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
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Hurricane Irma Intermediate Advisory Number 37A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL112017
800 AM EDT Fri Sep 08 2017
...CORE OF HURRICANE IRMA FORECAST TO MOVE BETWEEN THE CENTRAL
BAHAMAS AND THE NORTH COAST OF CUBA TODAY...
SUMMARY OF 800 AM EDT...1200 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...21.8N 74.7W
ABOUT 80 MI...125 KM NE OF CABO LUCRECIA CUBA
ABOUT 450 MI...720 KM SE OF MIAMI FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...150 MPH...240 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 285 DEGREES AT 16 MPH...26 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...927 MB...27.37 INCHES
WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:
The Hurricane and Tropical Storm Warnings for Haiti have been
discontinued.
SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:
A Storm Surge Warning is in effect for...
* Jupiter Inlet southward around the Florida peninsula to Bonita
Beach
* Florida Keys
A Storm Surge Watch is in effect for...
* North of Jupiter Inlet to Sebastian Inlet
* North of Bonita Beach to Venice
A Hurricane Warning is in effect for...
* Jupiter Inlet southward around the Florida peninsula to Bonita
Beach
* Florida Keys
* Lake Okeechobee
* Florida Bay
* Southeastern Bahamas and the Turks and Caicos Islands
* Cuban provinces of Camaguey, Ciego de Avila, Sancti Spiritus, and
Villa Clara
* Central Bahamas
* Northwestern Bahamas
A Hurricane Watch is in effect for...
* North of Jupiter Inlet to Sebastian Inlet
* North of Bonita Beach to Anna Maria Island
* Cuban provinces of Guantanamo, Holguin, Las Tunas and Matanzas
A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Cuban provinces of Guantanamo, Holguin, and Las Tunas
A Storm Surge Warning means there is a danger of life-threatening
inundation, from rising water moving inland from the coastline,
during the next 36 hours in the indicated locations. For a
depiction of areas at risk, please see the National Weather
Service Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov. This is a life-threatening situation. Persons
located within these areas should take all necessary actions to
protect life and property from rising water and the potential for
other dangerous conditions. Promptly follow evacuation and other
instructions from local officials.
A Storm Surge Watch means there is a possibility of life-
threatening inundation, from rising water moving inland from the
coastline, in the indicated locations during the next 48 hours.
For a depiction of areas at risk, please see the National Weather
Service Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic, available at
hurricanes.gov.
A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected
somewhere within the warning area. Preparations to protect life and
property should be rushed to completion.
A Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are possible
within the watch area. A watch is typically issued 48 hours
before the anticipated first occurrence of tropical-storm-force
winds, conditions that make outside preparations difficult or
dangerous.
A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
expected somewhere within the warning area.
Interests elsewhere in Cuba, Florida, and the southeastern United
States should monitor the progress of Irma.
For storm information specific to your area in the United
States, including possible inland watches and warnings, please
monitor products issued by your local National Weather Service
forecast office. For storm information specific to your area outside
the United States, please monitor products issued by your national
meteorological service.
DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
------------------------------
At 800 AM EDT (1200 UTC), the eye of Hurricane Irma was located near
latitude 21.8 North, longitude 74.7 West. Irma is moving toward the
west-northwest near 16 mph (26 km/h), and this motion is expected to
continue for the next day or so with a decrease in forward speed. A
turn toward the northwest is expected by late Saturday. On the
forecast track, the eye of Irma should move near the north coast
of Cuba and the central Bahamas today and Saturday, and be near the
Florida Keys and the southern Florida Peninsula Sunday morning.
Maximum sustained winds are near 150 mph (240 km/h) with higher
gusts. Irma is a category 4 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson
Hurricane Wind Scale. Some fluctuations in intensity are likely
during the next day or two, but Irma is forecast to remain a
powerful category 4 hurricane as it approaches Florida.
Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 70 miles (110 km) from
the center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 185
miles (295 km).
The latest minimum central pressure reported by a reconnaissance
plane was 927 mb (27.37 inches).
HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
STORM SURGE: The combination of a dangerous storm surge and the
tide will cause normally dry areas near the coast to be flooded by
rising waters moving inland from the shoreline. The water is
expected to reach the following HEIGHTS ABOVE GROUND if the peak
surge occurs at the time of high tide...
Jupiter Inlet to Bonita Beach, including Florida Keys...5 to 10 ft
Bonita Beach to Venice...3 to 5 ft
Jupiter Inlet to Sebastian Inlet...3 to 6 ft
The deepest water will occur along the immediate coast in areas of
onshore winds, where the surge will be accompanied by large and
destructive waves. Surge-related flooding depends on the relative
timing of the surge and the tidal cycle, and can vary greatly over
short distances. For information specific to your area, please see
products issued by your local National Weather Service forecast
office.
The combination of a life-threatening storm surge and large breaking
waves will raise water levels ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS by the
following amounts within the hurricane warning area near and to the
north of the center of Irma. Near the coast, the surge will be
accompanied by large and destructive waves.
Turks and Caicos Islands...15 to 20 ft
Southeastern and central Bahamas...15 to 20 ft
Northwestern Bahamas...5 to 10 ft
Northern coast of Haiti and the Gulf of Gonave...1 to 3 ft
Northern coast of Cuba in the warning area...5 to 10 ft
WIND: Hurricane conditions are occurring on the Turks and Caicos
Islands, with tropical storm and hurricane conditions ongoing in the
southeastern Bahamas. These conditions will move into the central
Bahamas later today. Hurricane conditions are expected within the
hurricane warning area along the north coast of Cuba late today and
Saturday. Hurricane conditions are expected in the northwestern
Bahamas tonight and Saturday, and in portions of southern Florida
and the Florida Keys Saturday night or early Sunday.
Hurricane conditions are possible within the watch area in Florida
by Sunday, with tropical storm conditions possible by late Saturday.
RAINFALL: Irma is expected to produce the following rain
accumulations through Tuesday night:
Northern Dominican Republic and northern Haiti...additional 2 to 4
inches.
Southern Dominican Republic and southern Haiti...additional 1 to 2
inches.
Turks and Caicos...additional 3 to 6 inches.
Southern Bahamas and northern Cuba...10 to 15 inches, isolated 20
inches.
Southern Cuba...4 to 8 inches, isolated 12 inches.
The upper Florida Keys into southeast Florida...10 to 15 inches,
isolated 20 inches.
Eastern Florida northward into coastal Georgia...8 to 12 inches,
isolated 16 inches.
Lower Florida Keys...3 to 5 inches.
Western Florida Peninsula into much of Georgia...South
Carolina...and Western North Carolina...3 to 6 inches.
In all areas this rainfall may cause life-threatening flash floods
and in some areas mudslides.
SURF: Swells generated by Irma are affecting Puerto Rico, the
Virgin Islands, the southeastern Bahamas, the Turks and Caicos
Islands, the northern coast of the Dominican Republic, and should
start affecting portions of the southeast coast of the United States
later today and tonight. These swells are likely to cause
life-threatening surf and rip current conditions. Please consult
products from your local weather office.
NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
Next complete advisory at 1100 AM EDT.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
I don't know what is up with that site, I use: https://earth.nullschool.net/#curren...9.14,13.70,342
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Reuters Top News
JUST IN: Hurricane Irma is ‘going to devastate the United States’ - FEMA chief.
CNN
FEMA Administrator: “I can guarantee you that I don’t know anybody in Florida that’s ever experienced what’s about to hit South Florida.”
...Storm Surge Warning issued September 8 at 11:15AM EDT by NWS Key
West FL...
* LOCATIONS AFFECTED
- Key West
- Big Pine
* WIND
- LATEST LOCAL FORECAST: Equivalent Cat 4 Hurricane force wind
- Peak Wind Forecast: 110-130 mph with gusts to 145 mph
- Window for Tropical Storm force winds: Saturday afternoon
until early Monday morning
- Window for Hurricane force winds: Saturday evening until
Sunday afternoon
Hurricane Irma models all seem to show it going inland to the Alabama / Georgia / Tennessee border... and then stalling.
Looks like a major rain event there for middle of the next week.
The Associated Press
BREAKING: Jose strengthens to a Category 4 hurricane; tropical storm warnings in effect for already ravaged Caribbean islands.
(With another possible storm, Lee, right behind him.)
GFS has 34ft waves mostly paralleling Miami coast as Irma lands to the west. (I don't want to believe this...)
check/play w/ this one: https://www.ventusky.com/?p=34.2;-10...d-850hpa&m=gfs
Hurricane Specialist On Irma: ‘Few People Alive Have Experienced A Storm Like This’
https://www.westernjournalism.com/hu...zen.yandex.com
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Maybe it will cross the Keys and then hit the Everglades. That would seem to limit the damage, wouldn't it?
I have a friend in Fort Lauderdale and one in Fort Myers that are riding it out.
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If you look at this... (takes a while to load)
https://www.ventusky.com/?p=34.2;-10...0&m=gfs&w=fast
you can clearly see why it is tracking west...
if the prevailing pressure & wind currents are accurate (?)
then
it sure LOOKS (2 me) like it's heading right into the Gulf.,,
might even kick the crap out of Central America.
(warning: I'm no meteorologist)... but
Check it yerself and give me some feedback. Watddyathinkk??
Last edited by goldenequity; 09-08-2017 at 08:08 PM.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
It just seems to me that it's pretty rare for the wind damage from a hurricane to be a major problem. It's usually has to be a direct hit, close to the eye, from a category 5 for the wind damage to really wipe everyone out. Usually the problem is with flooding. If it hits the everglades I think the really intense, tornado like damage, might be limited.
But then again, I didn't stay in a holiday inn express last night either.
The Everglades are a national park of Mangrove swamps at the southern most tip of Florida. To the east you have Homestead, where I grew up, Miami and Hialeah, to the West you have Marco Island. If it cut directly down the center then you are correct. No. Neither the east, nor the west, would take as terrible a blow,but, they will still have hell visited upon them. Big Cypress is above the Everglades, then Lake Okeechobee, and you don't get much center city activity until, honestly, Kissemmee, Orlando.
So, you are correct. Humans hate the interior of the state. If I lived even 2 miles inland it was, in most places, insufferable. That is why the population is on the coast. So yeak, if it tore up the center there may be less damage then if it tore up either coast.
I lived in Orlando for 25 years and I always said if I had to move back to FL, it would be to the coast.
By the way from what I remember when Andrew hit, it took most people by surprise. I think it strengthened rapidly and even then it "pulsed" as it hit land. I seem to remember they thought it was a cat 4 as it was hitting land but later they upgraded it to a cat 5. That was the worst wind damage I've seen from a hurricane.
I don't know for sure but I think Federal Disaster Aid was tied to the catagory. I might be mistaken. Irma is going to be worse than Andrew. It's a stronger, bigger, storm. I don't think at this point it will track up the center. Latest tracks show it moving up the west coast. Predictions don't mean $#@!. This hurricane, Irma, is gonna rip up some $#@!.
The Keys will get obliterated. But if the eye crosses into the everglades I'll bet you it's not as bad as Andrew, at least as far as catastrophic damage and deaths go. The total damage for Irma will be much higher because it will cover more area, and more "stuff", and prices are more inflated.
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