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    If You Can't Change Your Mind, Change the Subject

    If You Can't Change Your Mind, Change the Subject

    By Andrew P. Napolitano

    August 24, 2017

    On the heels of his worst week in office, during which his crude comments about race were widely perceived as defending racism and hatred — comments that sent some of his natural domestic allies fleeing — President Donald Trump could not bring himself to articulate a mea culpa.

    Instead, he purported to defend as “some very fine people” the monsters who shouted “Jews will not replace us” and “blood and soil” (a virulent Nazi slogan calling for lands where only Aryans may live) as they clashed with those who rejected their messages in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    Police failure and general government indifference about the freedom of speech permitted one of the racists to kill one of those who had come to reject the hate.

    After the deceased was identified, one of the neo-Nazis there said she deserved to die because she was “fat.” It is difficult for me to accept that I am writing about neo-Nazis calling for racial purity and rejoicing in the death of an innocent — in America in 2017. But here we are. They are among us, and these subjects must be addressed. Suicide Pact: The Radi... Andrew P. Napolitano Best Price: $0.99 Buy New $3.49 (as of 04:24 EDT - Details)

    At first, the president made a rambling statement about bad people on “both sides”; then he read a nicely worded attack on racists; and then he held a disastrous impromptu news conference in which he was so morally ambivalent that he seemed to reject his duty as president.

    Rejecting, as well, the pleas of those around him to renounce his own failure to renounce his moral ambivalence — which won him a public accolade from the most notorious Ku Klux Klan fanatic in the country — Trump decided to change the subject.

    Like former President Bill Clinton after his disastrous public appearance before a federal grand jury that was investigating him, Trump decided to fight a war. But the war he announced we will “fight to win” earlier this week is the longest, most misguided, costliest and least understood war in our history, and we are fighting for people who hate us.

    If these phrases and ideas sound familiar, they should. They are not my words — though I agree with them — but those of candidate Trump. He articulated them forcefully to the American electorate during last year’s presidential election campaign. He actually began attacking the war in Afghanistan long before he announced his presidential candidacy.

    If he has been consistent on any public issue, it has been his opposition to this useless, lawless, costly war — until he needed to change the subject. The Constitution in Ex... Andrew P. Napolitano Best Price: $0.25 Buy New $7.85 (as of 10:00 EDT - Details)

    Why war? Because nothing strengthens the presidency and its occupant or commands the attention of the public or weakens domestic political opposition as effectively as war.

    No rational person will argue publicly that our troops should die or lose or lack the resources to fight even an unjust war, and often even political opponents will jump on a wartime president’s patriotic bandwagon. We will witness that scene again soon.

    With the last anti-war holdout in his inner circle — Steve Bannon — gone, Trump embraced the present and former generals with whom he has surrounded himself and surrendered to their arguments.

    I wish he had been faithful to his promise to the electorate to bring the troops home. Instead, he will send an unannounced number of service members and accompanying equipment to Afghanistan — not to rebuild the bridges and roads the U.S. destroyed there but to fight, to kill and to “win.”

    What are we doing there?

    The British tried to tame this unruly barren wasteland, which has never had a modern-day central government, back in the 19th century, and the Russians tried to do the same in the 20th century. They both lost a generation of soldiers and a fortune. The Freedom Answer Boo... Andrew P. Napolitano Best Price: $1.55 Buy New $3.30 (as of 07:12 EDT - Details)

    What are we doing there?

    On Sept. 11, 2001, the United States was attacked by 19 religious fanatics, most of whom were from Saudi Arabia. These monsters were funded by Saudi wealth.

    But President George W. Bush needed some country to attack in the aftermath, so he convinced Congress that since we couldn’t attack the dead people who attacked us or our “friends” — the Saudis — who financed them, we should attack their ideological comrades residing in a safe haven called Afghanistan. Instead of attacking the 9/11 attackers’ sources, we attacked their friends.

    What are we doing there?

    During the Republican presidential primary debates, Trump himself savaged former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush so aggressively over his efforts to defend his brother’s decision to invade Afghanistan that the younger Bush quit the race; and Republicans voted for Trump in droves.

    What are we doing there?

    We have already spent more than 1 trillion borrowed dollars there, sent more than 100,000 troops there, killed countless innocents there, destroyed towns, cities and ancient artifacts there, lost billions in cash and equipment there; and whomever we have been fighting there for 16 years still controls more than 40 percent of the country.

    What are we doing there? How will we know if we have won there? When will we come home for good from there?

    The answers to these questions are deadly but easy — when the subject has been changed here.
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    I like the judge, but I'm not with him on this one. What he heard Trump say and what Trump said are obviously different things.

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    This is the 3rd backstabbing from the judge I have seen, there are many things to criticize Dump for but his comments on Charlottesville are not one of them.
    Something is going on with Napolitano.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I like the judge, but I'm not with him on this one. What he heard Trump say and what Trump said are obviously different things.
    Here's the full transcript of the rambling press conference the Judge was saying was a "disastrous impromptu news conference in which he was so morally ambivalent that he seemed to reject his duty as president."

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...at-Trump-Tower

    I am in agreement.

    And I am especially in agreement about his changing the subject.
    Last edited by Ender; 08-24-2017 at 01:03 PM.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    This is the 3rd backstabbing from the judge I have seen, there are many things to criticize Dump for but his comments on Charlottesville are not one of them.
    Something is going on with Napolitano.
    My take is that the Judge is finally waking up and coming back to Ron Paul's POV. I was pretty amazed that he sided with Trump in the 1st place.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    My take is that the Judge is finally waking up and coming back to Ron Paul's POV. I was pretty amazed that he sided with Trump in the 1st place.
    Then why attack him for things that aren't true when there are plenty of true things to attack him for?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    This is the 3rd backstabbing from the judge I have seen, there are many things to criticize Dump for but his comments on Charlottesville are not one of them.
    Something is going on with Napolitano.
    I agree. Except where he called the driver a murderer. But overall there was violence on both sides. Actually I think the whole idea that the president has to comment on local crime is idiotic.

    To me this is clearly one of the few times Trump got it right. Unfortunately I think he's wrong on the really big issues like size of government, debt, trade, government stimulus, war mongering, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Then why attack him for things that aren't true when there are plenty of true things to attack him for?
    So, you don't agree with the idea that Trump changed the subject to Afghanistan to take the public eye off of his ambiguity?
    There is no spoon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    So, you don't agree with the idea that Trump changed the subject to Afghanistan to take the public eye off of his ambiguity?
    No, I think he finally made his (wrong) decision on Afganistan and tried to spin it to his base before McPain could force his plan down his throat through congress like the Russian sanctions bill.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    This is the 3rd backstabbing from the judge I have seen, there are many things to criticize Dump for but his comments on Charlottesville are not one of them.

    Something is going on with Napolitano.
    My take is that the Judge is finally waking up and coming back to Ron Paul's POV. I was pretty amazed that he sided with Trump in the 1st place.
    Yup

    Something definitely was "going on" with Napolitano. Now, at least for the moment, he's come back to his senses.

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    I love the Judge too, but yes, he has changed his tone on matters regarding Trump. Ever since his suspension from Fox News, regardless of being vindicated days later, he has been more anti-Trump or questioning of Trump at the very least, which is the standard Fox News narrative in their quest to more openly embrace leftism. Part of the condition to return contributing to Fox may have included taking a tougher stance on Trump like the rest of them do.

    He has had his show cancelled despite decent ratings and was suspended for doing nothing wrong. I sometimes wonder why he even puts up with these creeps in the first place. Getting a segment with the Ron Paul Liberty Report or RT or something to that effect could allow him much more freedom and possibly his own show, but I'm sure he has his reasons for not taking his business elsewhere.

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    What are we doing there?
    ... what indeed?

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