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    US Military to Be Permanently Stationed in Ukraine

    ALEX GORKA | 14.08.2017 | WORLD
    Ukraine Hosts US Military to Be Permanently Stationed on Its Soil
    United States Naval Construction Battalions, better known as the Seabees (C.B. – construction battalion), of the Naval Construction Force held a groundbreaking ceremony for a maritime operations center on Ochakov Naval Base, Ukraine, July 25. According to the Navy.mil, the official website of the US Navy, the maritime operations center is one of three projects that are currently planned to be executed by the Seabees in Ochakov and will serve as a major planning and operational hub during future military exercises hosted by Ukraine. The Seabees arrived in Ochakov in April to establish contracts, obtain construction permits and perform other logistical tasks for the maritime operations center project.

    Maritime operations centers are the operational-level warfare command and control organizations designed to deliver flexible maritime capabilities throughout the full range of military operations. The future Seabee projects in Ochakov include a boat maintenance facility and entry control points with perimeter fencing.

    «Our ability to maximize European reassurance initiatives in Ukraine holds strategic importance, and will ultimately improve host nation defense capacity and infrastructure, strengthen relations, and increase bilateral training capabilities», said Lt. j.g. Jason McGee, officer in charge of Det. Ukraine.

    In July, several US missile warships, including the USS Hue City Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser and the USS Carney Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer, a P-8A Poseidon patrol aircraft and a Navy SEALs team took part in the 12-day Sea Breeze 2017 NATO naval exercise held in the northwestern part of the Black Sea, near the port city of Odessa. 17 nations took part in the training event.

    The drills were conducted in the 'free game' format in the Odessa and Nikolayev regions and the northwestern areas of the Black Sea. The practice scenarios cover amphibious warfare. The only country the forces could be training to assault is Russia.

    During the exercise, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson made his first visit to Ukraine (July 9) to demonstrate the political support of Kiev’s policy aimed at integration with the United States and NATO. He was accompanied by Kurt Volker, the newly appointed US Special Representative to the Minsk peace process, who is known as a hawk against Moscow.

    The US political support is not gratuitous. In late June, the Ukrainian government took a decision to buy American coal from Pennsylvania, which is said to be almost twice as expensive as locally sourced in the Donbass – Ukraine’s traditional supplier of energy needs.

    In July, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko signed the Law of Ukraine «On Amendments to Certain Laws of Ukraine Regarding the Foreign Policy of Ukraine», which determines membership of the Alliance as one of the country’s foreign policy priorities. Poroshenko said that a referendum on NATO membership would be held by 2020.

    Ukraine takes part in a host of NATO exercises: Operation Fearless Guardian, Exercise Sea Breeze, Saber Guardian/Rapid Trident, Safe Skies and Combined Resolve. It became the first non-member country to contribute its troops to the NATO Response Force.

    On June 8, Ukraine’s parliament adopted a bill called «On Amending Certain Legislative Acts of Ukraine (on Foreign Policy Course of Ukraine), setting NATO membership as Ukraine’s foreign policy goal, replacing the country’s non-aligned status.

    The United States will deliver lethal weapons to Ukraine. The Joint Staff is working with US European Command to determine what the lethal defensive aid to Ukraine would look like. The House version of the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) cuts military aid to Ukraine from the initial $300 million to $150 million, but it provides permission for lethal arms supplies. The idea is strongly supported in the Senate. If the legislation goes through, the weapons could be legally sent to Ukraine starting October 1. The money could be used to deliver over 900 FGM-148 Javelin anti-tank missiles designed to strike armored vehicles, fortified ground installations and low flying aerial targets at a distance of 50-2,500 meters.

    Former President Barack Obama was unconvinced that granting Ukraine lethal defensive weapons would be the right decision in view of corruption widespread in Ukraine. Skepticism about sending weapons to Ukraine is common in Europe. German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier opposed the idea. NATO Military Committee Chairman Petr Pavel has spoken against lethal arms deliveries to Kiev.

    A recently published RAND study says that the country faces deeply embedded problems which cannot easily be solved by foreign-provided assistance.

    A US military facility near Russia’s borders is a very serious threat to regional security. The Black Sea region is turning into a hot spot. US destroyers and cruisers visit the Black Sea regularly to provide NATO with long-range first strike capability. The Romania-based Aegis Ashore BMD system uses the Mk-41 launcher capable of firing Tomahawk long-range precision-guided missiles against land assets.

    Romania has worked energetically to increase US and NATO force presence in the region. The US has recently taken the decision to send an additional 500 forces to the Romanian Mihail Kogalniceanu (MK) forward operating base. A brigade-size multinational NATO force is based in Craiova, Romania. Nations which have pledged to contribute include Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, Poland, Turkey and the United States. The unit is intended to facilitate the deployment of reinforcements. Georgia and Ukraine will be fully involved in the plans.

    Romania calls for a regular trilateral format of joint naval exercises in the Black Sea, along with Turkey and Bulgaria, with the eventual participation of non-littoral NATO members.

    The United Kingdom has decided to deploy four Typhoon aircraft to Mihail Kogalniceanu in 2017. Deveselu, Romania, is home for Aegis Ashore ballistic missile defense site and a target for the Russian military.

    Bulgaria has offered to participate in the Multinational Framework Brigade stationed in Romania with 400 troops. In September, about 150 US Marines, part of the Black Sea Rotational Force, are due at Novo Selo, Bulgaria. This will be the first of three six-month rotations of about 150 US Marines, part of the Black Sea Rotational Force. Under the 2006 defense cooperation agreement, the United States has access to three Bulgarian military bases.

    The US plans to deploy up to 2,500 troops at Novo Selo; the base can hold as many as 5,000 during joint-nation exercises with NATO allies. The facility’s upgrade is finished to add a helicopter landing zone and an air operations building. The base is expected to host US heavy tanks. A NATO maintenance support area is to be built in Sliven or Plovdiv. This is a serious military build-up turning Bulgaria into springboard to attack Russia or a target for the Russia’s armed forces.

    It’s hardly a wise decision to militarize the country against Russia when 80 percent of Bulgarian exports and imports transit the Black Sea and tourism contributes heavily to the country’s economy, increased maritime militarization could have a widespread negative economic impact in case of heightened tensions, accidents or clashes.

    Since September, 2016 US and Bulgarian aircraft conduct patrol flights in the Black Sea. The patrolling mission greatly increases the risk of an accident, especially with the Russian S-400 long range systems stationed in Crimea. Russian aircraft deployed in the Northern Caucasus and Rostov region are capable of controlling the whole Black Sea. President Putin has warned NATO about the consequences such a policy would lead to.

    Non-Black Sea NATO members cannot stay in the Black Sea for more than 21 days, according to the Montreux Convention. NATO has three members with Black Sea ports in Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey, as well as two more aspiring members in Ukraine and Georgia. Bulgarian, Romanian, Ukrainian and Georgian navies have limited capabilities. Handing over to them some of other NATO members’ warships is an option under consideration. The ships could be reflagged to beef up permanent naval capabilities in the theater. US warships frequent the Black Sea to provide NATO with long-range first strike capability.

    The Romania-based missile defense system as well as NATO air bases and headquarters will be targeted by Russian Kalibr sea- and air-based medium-range cruise missiles successfully tested in Syria some time ago. The active phase array antenna-based radar, located in Romania, can be countered by Russian ground and air-based electronic warfare systems.

    In response to NATO growing presence, Russia has deployed S-400 long-range air-defense systems and Bastion-P (K-300P) anti-ship coastal defense missile systems equipped with Onyx missiles. These Mach 2.6 supersonic missiles are highly maneuverable, difficult to detect and have a range of nearly 300 kilometers. With the help of the Monolith-B radar station, the system is capable of obtaining over-the-horizon target designation many miles beyond the horizon. The long-range cruise missile capable Su-24 supersonic attack aircraft are already deployed in Crimea.

    Russia has to react in view of massive militarization of the region against the background of high tensions. An accident may spark a big fire. The US military presence in Ukraine is a highly provocative step, which will very negatively affect the situation. Nothing justifies the whipping up of tensions in the Black Sea region, but the United States keeps on doing it with great vigor.



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    ...in before someone blames McMaster/Kushner/Rumpelstiltskin/Anyone But Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    ...in before someone blames McMaster/Kushner/Rumpelstiltskin/Anyone But Trump.
    I blame Congress.

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    Because if the European Union used its own military to subjugate its conquests it might cause resentment.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    New York National Guard soldier dies in Ukraine

    A soldier with the New York Army National Guard has died in Ukraine, according to the Guard.
    Spc. Joseph Nelk, 21, was deployed to Ukraine … He died on Sunday of apparent natural … The specialist was one of 220 New York Guard soldiers assigned to the training … helps train Ukrainian army troops …
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    ...in before someone blames McMaster/Kushner/Rumpelstiltskin/Anyone But Trump.
    Clinton?




    short term memory loss,,, ?

    my ass.
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    "she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy."

    Well Mister Quincy, you'd be really surprised what else she has done and is doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Clinton?




    short term memory loss,,, ?

    my ass.
    Sure, that $#@! too.



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    Trump gives green light to selling lethal arms to Ukraine

    the administration approved the sale of Model M107A1 Sniper Systems and associated equipment to the country at a value of $41.5 million. The administration has not yet moved to approve heavier arms requested by Ukraine's government, including Javelin anti-tank missiles.

    “I’m pleased the administration approved the sale of defensive lethal arms to Ukraine,” Corker said. “This decision was supported by Congress in legislation that became law three years ago and reflects our country’s longstanding commitment to Ukraine in the face of ongoing Russian aggression.”

    Defensive weapons are not provocative unless you're an aggressor, and clearly, Ukraine is not an aggressor, since it's their own territory where the fighting is happening,” James Mattis

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    Conflict News-
    UKRAINE: Trump Administration has reportedly approved the sale of M107A1 sniper rifles to Ukraine.

    purely defensive.


    The monkeys in Kiev are wetting themselves.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-20-2017 at 08:04 PM.

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    Russia in RSA@EmbassyofRussia · 20. 12.
    #UNGA adopts "Resolution on Combating Glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism & other practices that contribute to fueling contemporary forms of racism, xenophobia, intolerance". 133 countries vote in favour, 49 abstain, only 2 - surprise, surprise! #USA & #Ukraine - vote against

    "An attempt by the United States to revise a U.N. resolution that threatens free speech failed dramatically, as U.N. member states rejected the U.S.'s proposed amendments by a vote of
    3 in favor (Israel, Ukraine, and U.S.),
    81 against, and
    73 abstentions. (lapdogs who lack the courage to vote their conscience )

    Instead, the Russian-sponsored resolution, "Combatting glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to fueling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related tolerance," was adopted in its original form HERE
    by the Third Committee of the U.N. General Assembly on November 16, 2017, by a vote of 125 in favor, 2 against (Ukraine and U.S.), and 51 abstentions."

    http://www.humanrightsvoices.org/sit...ments/?d=18490



    More rules against crime-think from the global government?
    How is this a good thing? I know u don't like Ukraine nazi types,
    but how is inhibiting the exchange of ideas a positive development?

    Exchange of ideas?
    It is not exchange of ideas when one side wants to eradicate the other just because it is not, for example, hohol enough.
    Your grandfathers gave their life in battle against such extremist ideology and their grandchildren are not willing to honor their sacrifice and condemn it?
    Shame on current US regime.
    It is similar situation as when the US voted against UN resolution condemning death penalty for gay sex, in which US joined Saudi Arabia, that voted against the resolution as well (and Iraq, I think).
    Classy...

    Rules governing vocalized thought are not acceptable, no matter against who, the history behind it, or why.

    How about calls for beheading Christians?
    Be aware that religious, political and nationalist extremism is the very same thing in its core.
    The corner stone of such ideologies is complete belief that the life of follower is completely superior to non-followers,
    their lifes do not matter and, actually, they should be eliminated or converted at least.
    It is good thing to condemn and fight against such ideologies.
    I can't concur with you.

    The difference between calls for violent action vs th free exchange of ideas are already recognized under most national laws.
    The problem arises when it becomes a crime to question the official narrative.
    This is just one more protection against criticism for those who rule us and would have us believe we are oppressing them.

    I understand your point but I'm not concerned about this at all.
    Judging by the triggered countries, the resolution targeted exactly what was needed.
    It's globalists who suffered butthurt over this, as their favorite footslodiers are xtremists of all kinds.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 12-21-2017 at 07:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Russia in RSA@EmbassyofRussia · 20. 12.
    #UNGA adopts "Resolution on Combating Glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism & other practices that contribute to fueling contemporary forms of racism, xenophobia, intolerance". 133 countries vote in favour, 49 abstain, only 2 - surprise, surprise! #USA & #Ukraine - vote against

    "An attempt by the United States to revise a U.N. resolution that threatens free speech failed dramatically, as U.N. member states rejected the U.S.'s proposed amendments by a vote of
    3 in favor (Israel, Ukraine, and U.S.),
    81 against, and
    73 abstentions. (lapdogs who lack the courage to vote their conscience )

    Instead, the Russian-sponsored resolution, "Combatting glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to fueling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related tolerance," was adopted in its original form HERE
    by the Third Committee of the U.N. General Assembly on November 16, 2017, by a vote of 125 in favor, 2 against (Ukraine and U.S.), and 51 abstentions."

    http://www.humanrightsvoices.org/sit...ments/?d=18490
    In spite of the evils of Nazism giving government a toe in the door on restricting speech is dangerous and when it comes to world government it is downright insane.
    I understand the argument that calls for genocide etc. might not qualify for freedom of speech but such restrictions should be clinically defined by their nature not by their associations, Nazism is a vague concept that can be interpreted to mean almost anything the government wants.
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