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    I'm just going to go ahead and bump this.

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    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "The monarch is a responsible person. The fact that a monarch is responsible "to God alone," rather than to an assembly or a popular majority, is rather shocking to an agnostic mind; but while God cannot be fooled, the masses can. While it is perhaps true that "one cannot fool all the people all the time," it seems one can fool millions for centuries."

    -Ibid.



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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I'm just going to go ahead and bump this.
    A society that is not prepared to thwart the attacks of such asocial and short-sighted aggressors is helpless.
    This part had caught my eye because this means to me a small country... google brought me back Vatican City... should have 100% of their people in service of defense in order to best safeguard it from the US, for example. I suspect this would be a reasoning for world governance, and that Vatican City should swear fealty to its larger. But what about a case where the larger is much less liberal than the current government? Should they subject their subjects to a less liberal government just because of the possibility that that government may one day subjugate them by force? Force their subjects into service to best avoid the possible subjugation?

    And again I'd debate his whole thesis, that the presence or absence of a government is what constitutes preparedness in thwarting attacks. He said nothing about why free-market defense would not work, he was dismissive of the anarchists instead of addressing their points.

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    Some models project micronations can fend themselves just fine.

    If freedom isn't free, it isn't liberty - its license.


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