Is there really anything to fight for?

[TomtheTinker]

America is Dead. Liberty is not popular. People do not and are not interested in understanding freedom.

Ron Paul gave me hope that maybe just maybe freedom was still alive in this nation. Idk if that hope still exists in my heart. I still believe in it more than anything but I feel as I would be more successful beating my head against a brick wall. There are actually people calling for protests to be made illegal!! I mean look around...liberty as we see it my friends is dead. At least There are other avenues other than public opinion to carve out something that looks like freedom.

[Swordsmyth]

America is Dead. Liberty is not popular. People do not and are not interested in understanding freedom.

Ron Paul gave me hope that maybe just maybe freedom was still alive in this nation. Idk if that hope still exists in my heart. I still believe in it more than anything but I feel as I would be more successful beating my head against a brick wall. There are actually people calling for protests to be made illegal!! I mean look around...liberty as we see it my friends is dead. At least There are other avenues other than public opinion to carve out something that looks like freedom.

When I am DEAD I will cease the struggle, and only then.

[oyarde]

It is worth fighting for your own personal freedom and the protection of your loved ones . That is why you cannot give up . That is not to say you cannot accept that you are surrounded by people who will never think as you .

[TomtheTinker]

My lifestyle itself is a slap in the systems face. I'm not giving up the fight for my personal freedom. It's in my nature to stand sovereign. I'm Just very discouraged with the big picture.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Is there really anything to fight for?

Of course! Just a few points below.


1. A lot of people feel just like you. The US president gets frustrated and he's the president. George Soros gets frustrated and he's probably one of the 30 richest people in the world. The great equalizer is that everyone dies. Don't be so hard on yourself.

2. If you're not involved, then you can be sure the opposition will be involved. You're political by commission or omission.

3. Think how much worse it might be if nothing were ever done. Liberty is a constant back-and-forth.

4. Stop focusing on TV's national politics. A lot of that is beyond your reach. Look around you. Reach people one person at a time.

5. History moves in cycles. We don't live at the most free point, but it always cycles around. My wife always discusses this personally. She says, "Your life events are like a wheel. Sometime you're up; sometimes you're down." But the wheel always comes back around.

6. Relax! Enjoy a concert. Enjoy the outdoors. Enjoy your family. Enjoy life. Life's too short.

[Anti Federalist]

America is Dead. Liberty is not popular. People do not and are not interested in understanding freedom.

Ron Paul gave me hope that maybe just maybe freedom was still alive in this nation. Idk if that hope still exists in my heart. I still believe in it more than anything but I feel as I would be more successful beating my head against a brick wall. There are actually people calling for protests to be made illegal!! I mean look around...liberty as we see it my friends is dead. At least There are other avenues other than public opinion to carve out something that looks like freedom.

It will come to fighting for your life, if past history is any guide, when fascists and communists start duking it out.

AmeriKa is dead, been dead for a while now, this is just the zombie corpse.

I'm hoping that when all the dust settles and the blood seeps into the sand, "we" might have found the intestinal fortitude to carve out a little niche for ourselves.

[timosman]

America is Dead. Liberty is not popular. People do not and are not interested in understanding freedom.

Ron Paul gave me hope that maybe just maybe freedom was still alive in this nation. Idk if that hope still exists in my heart. I still believe in it more than anything but I feel as I would be more successful beating my head against a brick wall. There are actually people calling for protests to be made illegal!! I mean look around...liberty as we see it my friends is dead. At least There are other avenues other than public opinion to carve out something that looks like freedom.

A nice concern troll.

[oyarde]

When in doubt just get more ammo . Makes you feel better.

[Swordsmyth]

A nice concern troll.

Lay off, he came here seeking help.
The world can be depressing.

[TomtheTinker]

You're 100% correct on the 1st 4 points. The 5th one is exactly what my life is filled with. Thanks for the positive attitude and perspective.

[TomtheTinker]

Lay off, he came here seeking help.
The world can be depressing.

Seriously. Lol. Reactions to recent events has me unusually frustrated. Figured there would still be a few like minded individuals hanging around good old liberty forest.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

You're 100% correct on the 1st 4 points. The 5th one is exactly what my life is filled with. Thanks for the positive attitude and perspective.

Tom,

Are you referring to my post? If so, thanks for the compliment.

You mentioned point 5. My wife is Filipino. People in her country are much more fatalistic than Americans, partly because of their history of being colonially ruled. Americans attempt to control; Filipinos roll with the ups & downs. A Filipino will commit an accident and laugh about. They always seem to be smiling. I sometimes try to swing over to the more fatalistic pendulum side.

[ProIndividual]

A nice concern troll.

That is not what a concern troll is or does. A concern troll pretends to be concerned with way things work in a group, then pretend to have soft criticism meant to lead to "fixes" to things that aren't actually problems, to waste time of the group for their sadistic pleasure.

I don't see any of that in the post.

[acptulsa]

That is not what a concern troll is or does. A concern troll pretends to be concerned with way things work in a group, then pretend to have soft criticism meant to lead to "fixes" to things that aren't actually problems, to waste time of the group for their sadistic pleasure.

I don't see any of that in the post.

But I sure see that in white nationalist timosman's post. And a fair amount of, 'Hey, look over there, don't look at me!'

Remember, Tom, this site has been in the doldrums ever since the admin started infracting and banning people for giving as good as they got to the alt-right blight, Fedbook has been censoring tweets by everyone who isn't a twit, as has Yahoo and every other site that pops up higher than page 312 on Google, and simply put, huge amounts of effort and resources are being expended to ensure that people who think as we do--indeed, people who think at all--don't get heard.

That doesn't mean people who think as we do don't exist. If a tree falls in the woods, there might be no one around to hear it. But the tree still fell.

[Raginfridus]

Your family and kids, if you've got kids. Friends, if you've got those (no disrespect, friends are hard to come by).

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

man TC is easy

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Of course! Just a few points below.


1. A lot of people feel just like you. The US president gets frustrated and he's the president. George Soros gets frustrated and he's probably one of the 30 richest people in the world. The great equalizer is that everyone dies. Don't be so hard on yourself.

2. If you're not involved, then you can be sure the opposition will be involved. You're political by commission or omission.

3. Think how much worse it might be if nothing were ever done. Liberty is a constant back-and-forth.

4. Stop focusing on TV's national politics. A lot of that is beyond your reach. Look around you. Reach people one person at a time.

5. History moves in cycles. We don't live at the most free point, but it always cycles around. My wife always discusses this personally. She says, "Your life events are like a wheel. Sometime you're up; sometimes you're down." But the wheel always comes back around.

6. Relax! Enjoy a concert. Enjoy the outdoors. Enjoy your family. Enjoy life. Life's too short.

Actually it's more dangerous when someone is close to death, because I think they would be more desperate to make any changes that they wanted, so he'll probably really ramp it up.

[William Tell]

[CaptainAmerica]

America is Dead. Liberty is not popular. People do not and are not interested in understanding freedom.

Ron Paul gave me hope that maybe just maybe freedom was still alive in this nation. Idk if that hope still exists in my heart. I still believe in it more than anything but I feel as I would be more successful beating my head against a brick wall. There are actually people calling for protests to be made illegal!! I mean look around...liberty as we see it my friends is dead. At least There are other avenues other than public opinion to carve out something that looks like freedom.

No, there is nothing.