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    Trump Press Conference Q&A on Charlottesville

    Wow. Trump press conference right now. This will be controversial. He's not playing the mainstream media PC game.

    Trump calling out the violent leftists. He is not backing down, basically calling the press liars for ignoring it.

    Also taking shots at McCain for blocking Obamacare repeal.

    Get out your popcorn, video to be added.

    Edit - Video (please reference time mark when commenting on video):

    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 08-15-2017 at 02:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Trump calling out the violent leftists. He is not backing down, basically calling the press liars for ignoring it.
    I'm sure Hillary would have done the same.
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    Snowflakes on CNN have been triggered and are having PTSD attacks. It reminded them of "the day after the elections".

    They are all "in fear" now. They need safe spaces, crayons and professional cuddlers, stat!

    Edit: Bill Kristol on CNN inferring that this press conference is grounds for impeachment.
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 08-15-2017 at 02:49 PM.
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    People don't think there is a difference between D Trump and Hillary Clinton? Sure, there are some issues where they are two sides of the same coin. There are many areas where there are no significant differences. This area however, is different.

    If Clinton were president, then you can believe the Charlottesville issue would be very, very one-sided. She would issue some White House directives that would really go after the "right" (or more than is being done now). They might be facing some real consequences or even legal issues.

    One thing I like about this guy is that he is calling out the traditional media. This is long overdue. At least somebody is shaking up something. At least somebody is speaking up about all this social correctness. Guess it took a US president to do it.
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    Did he actually call Antifa a terrorist organization?

    I came in late and am listening to the Cernovich commentary rn..
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Snowflakes on CNN have been triggered and are having PTSD attacks. It "reminded them of the day after the elections".

    They are all "in fear" now. They need safe spaces, crayons and professional cuddlers, stat!
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    I was just watching ABC journalist reaction. They keep using this term back down in reference to the president. I would like to know when some of these media people are going to back down.
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    well that was certainly entertaining



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    I'm glad he pointed out that the alt left was to blame for the violence too.

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    Not sure if anyone has stayed up to date with regard to protest permits (lol) at certain historic venues but the permitting system has become rather elaborate. It's especially difficult to land a permit to protest near historic monuments and parks. So keep an eye on any future venues where protests are taking place. Take note of the ease in landing permits versus the difficulty for some others to receive them. Monitor who's involved in those protests. Monitor police maneuvering. Monitor dialogue between media and elected representatives after the fact.

    I think that the repeated permit commentary in the video is likely the most important bit. Additionally the fact that it was acknowledged that there were some people who were not there to cause violence. Yet the stormtroopers (who were proudly displaying their military swat gear and strategic crowd containment maneuvering ability again tee hee hee hee hee) did herd them all together.

    There's more to say about it. I don't really feel like it, though.

    Here's what a free speech zone looks like these days...





    Also...

    During Ferguson....





    After Ferguson....





    Ha. Charlottesville Virginia. Back in business.






    And, of course, the people will love them for it...

    Last edited by Natural Citizen; 08-15-2017 at 03:56 PM.

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    Breaking: 'Alt-left' charged at 'alt-right,' Trump says, again placing blame for Charlottesvi

    Aug. 15, 2017, 1:27 p.m. reporting from washington

    'Alt-left' charged at 'alt-right,' Trump says, again placing blame for Charlottesville violence 'on both sides'



    Trump said it was “a horrible day” but said several times that counter-protesters were not getting enough scrutiny for their role in the confrontation and emphasized his belief that many of the protesters who joined with white nationalists were innocent.

    “What about the 'alt-left' that came charging at, as you say, the 'alt-right'? Do they have any semblance of guilt?” Trump said. “They came charging with clubs in their hands,” he said of the counter-protesters.

    Trump effectively reopened the debate — saying "there is blame on both sides" — despite insistence from politicians in both parties that white supremacists and other racists deserved to be singled out.

    “You had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was violent. Nobody wants to say that, but I’ll say that,” he said.

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/wash...htmlstory.html






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    What are key differences between "alt-Right" and "alt-Left" ?

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    Trump discussed the removal of Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson statues. He asks the reporters if they want to remove statues of Washington and Jefferson because those two were slave owners.

    “George Washington as a slave owner. So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? Are we going to take down his statue? He was a major slave owner,” Trump said.
    http://nypost.com/2017/08/15/trump-c...e-power-rally/
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    That was fun.
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    Grab the popcorn indeed. They will run with this presser as a headline for weeks. Expect more virtue signaling from the usual suspects
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Wow. Trump press conference right now. This will be controversial. He's not playing the mainstream media PC game.

    Trump calling out the violent leftists. He is not backing down, basically calling the press liars for ignoring it.

    Also taking shots at McCain for blocking Obamacare repeal.

    Get out your popcorn, video to be added.

    Edit - Video (please reference time mark when commenting on video):

    Saw the headline on Drudge but did not see video there. The controversy will travel even more distance now.

    And "Alt-Left" term is officially in MSM diction now, beta trial ends.

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    Trump's kind of right. Blocking traffic is never okay. Taking over public roads and pounding and cars is wrong. I don't think you should gun it and run people over like this kid but I also don't think you should should stop. It is kind of hard for me to feel bad about the girl who is dead. I would never be in the position of blocking traffic.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Trump discussed the removal of Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson statues. He asks the reporters if they want to remove statues of Washington and Jefferson because those two were slave owners.


    http://nypost.com/2017/08/15/trump-c...e-power-rally/
    Now that is funny. Let's go ahead and petition getting the Washington Monument torn down too since it was built by slaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    Grab the popcorn indeed. They will run with this presser as a headline for weeks. Expect more virtue signaling from the usual suspects
    The press was absolutely hysterical, like raving monkeys just wishing they could throw their own $#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Trump discussed the removal of Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson statues. He asks the reporters if they want to remove statues of Washington and Jefferson because those two were slave owners.


    http://nypost.com/2017/08/15/trump-c...e-power-rally/

    Way things are going, there could be proposal to rename "White House" to "Homeland House" or something like that without using the w-word.
    Hopefully more drastic mesaures will not be demanded, W-House is sort of a historic monument at this point.


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    Just as far as personality: Trump is the kind of guy you just want to punch in the mouth, but you have to like that he doesn't pull any punches.
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    I'll bet he has people looking over the video footage, looking for people who committed violence on either side and those they can identify, will be arrested and charged with the crime.

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    I don't like the part where he called it murder. That has yet to be determined.

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    Every time they pushed him about it he said things that made them look worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    I'll bet he has people looking over the video footage, looking for people who committed violence on either side and those they can identify, will be arrested and charged with the crime.
    Seems to be underway.


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    18 mins ago - Woman arrested for bringing down Durham, N.C., Confederate statue ... renamed from Lee Park — was the site of a similar protest in May.
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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.3413284



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    Well, that Freudian slip sure was something.

    "Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at us?"

    At least he's comfortable admitting that he's a Nazi.

    Also, I'm still not sure what the "alt-left" is aside from a made up phrase to make false equivalencies easier. We know "alt-right" is just rebranded white supremacy/neo-Nazism, but I'm not aware of any leftist attempt at rebranding anti-Nazism. They kind of relish in their opposition to Nazism with a name like Antifa.
    Last edited by Antischism; 08-15-2017 at 03:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antischism View Post
    Well, that Freudian slip sure was something.

    "Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at us?"

    At least he's comfortable admitting that he's a Nazi.
    Um, no, you missed the part where he said that only a contingent were Nazis and white nationalists, many where there to protest taking down a historical statue... some were their protesting for free speech and against political violence.. and Antifa was attacking them all.

    Antifa attacks anybody on the right, they call them all Nazis. Have a "Make Bitcoin Great Again" hat? You're a nazi. Support Trump? You're a nazi. Want lower taxes? You're a nazi. Soon it will be, 'White? You're a nazi.'

    But go ahead, keep playing into the mainstream media bull$#@!, see where it gets you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antischism View Post
    Well, that Freudian slip sure was something.

    "Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at us?"

    At least he's comfortable admitting that he's a Nazi.
    Is that what he was doing? Are you sure he wasn't admitting to being a Robert E. Lee fan? A lot of people are. After all, he stood up against slavery in a time and place where that was an unpopular stance. Or maybe he was admitting to being a person who gets permits. Lord knows he has gotten enough of them. Or maybe he was intimating that he's the kind of person who doesn't use violence as a first resort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antischism View Post
    Well, that Freudian slip sure was something.

    "Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at us?"

    At least he's comfortable admitting that he's a Nazi.

    Also, I'm still not sure what the "alt-left" is aside from a made up phrase to make false equivalencies easier. We know "alt-right" is just rebranded white supremacy/neo-Nazism, but I'm not aware of any leftist attempt at rebranding anti-Nazism. They kind of relish in their opposition to Nazism with a name like Antifa.
    So you don't think your fellow AntiFa members were wrong to start the violence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Um, no, you missed the part where he said that only a contingent were Nazis and white nationalists, many where there to protest taking down a historical statue... some where their protesting for free speech and against political violence.. and Antifa was attacking them all.

    Antifa attacks anybody on the right, they call them all Nazis. Have a "Make Bitcoin Great Again" hat? You're a nazi. Support Trump? You're a nazi. Want lower taxes? You're a nazi. Soon it will be, 'White? You're a nazi.'

    But go ahead, keep playing into the mainstream media bull$#@!, see where it gets you.
    He certainly has trouble denouncing Nazis. He emotionally angry-tweeted about Meryl Streep's Golden Globes speech but had to be forced into denouncing Nazis days later. Makes you think.

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Is that what he was doing? Are you sure he wasn't admitting to being a Robert E. Lee fan? A lot of people are. After all, he stood up against slavery in a time and place where that was an unpopular stance. Or maybe he was admitting to being a person who gets permits. Lord knows he has gotten enough of them. Or maybe he was intimating that he's the kind of person who doesn't use violence as a first resort.
    I think you're taking my post too seriously. And no, Trump doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. His past (including recent) is enough to show me his true character.
    Last edited by Antischism; 08-15-2017 at 04:01 PM.

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