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    Seattle now

    From Drudge;


    Right-Wing Rally Goes Ahead in Seattle Despite Violence in Virginia

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...rginia-n792271


    Police and protesters clashed during a right-wing rally and counter-demonstration in Seattle on Sunday, but there were no immediate reports of serious injuries.

    The dueling events came one day after a woman was killed and 19 other people were injured in a white nationalist protest and counter-protest in Virginia.

    Seattle police said in a statement that three men were arrested on suspicion of obstruction and assault. Confiscated weapons included ax handles, 2-by-4s and balloons containing an "unknown liquid substance," the statement said.

    The rally's organizer, Joey Gibson of the pro-Donald Trump group Patriot Prayer, told a crowd gathered at Westlake Park in downtown Seattle that he was against white supremacy and wanted everyone to have his or her chance at the microphone.

    A parade of people denouncing Trump and white supremacy — and chanting "Black Lives Matter" — followed. So did a woman who identified herself as a pro-Trump Kurd.

    "America is the greatest country in this world," another unidentified woman wearing a glittery red, white and blue hat told the crowd. "What's happening today is awesome."

    On the street — on the other side of a metal barricade — counter-protesters faced off with police. One image showed black-clad demonstrators inches from officers in black tactical gear who were draped in pink and green Silly String.

    A protest organizer told NBC affiliate KING that police attacked and blocked them from entering the rally.

    "I think what they did today was actually a huge disgrace," the unidentified organizer told the station. "Their job is not to protect Nazis."

    The police statement said officers kept the groups separate "in the interest of safety for all those involved." The statement added police pepper-sprayed protesters after they tried to force their way past a police barricade using a makeshift shield.

    Later, some protesters hurled fireworks and possibly rocks at officers, the statement said.

    Earlier, Gibson said he would urge his supporters to remain nonviolent during the so-called "Freedom Rally," which was billed as an event to "promote freedom, free speech, and the power of the human soul."

    Protesters stare down police covered with aerosol plastic string Sunday in Seattle. Steve Patterson / NBC News
    As of Sunday afternoon, about 200 people said they would attend Gibson's event. More than 1,000 said they planned to attend a counter-protest organized by the leftist Greater Seattle General Defense Committee.

    "I don't want huge brawls," Gibson told NBC News. "If you're having brawls in the street, it looks like a bunch of crazy people fighting."

    "We need to treat them with love and kindness," he added.

    One of Gibson's previous events, a "free speech" rally in Oregon, was attended by Jeremy Christian, the man charged in May with stabbing two people to death aboard a Portland train amid an anti-Muslim outburst.

    During that rally, on April 29, Christian was captured in a photograph giving a stiff-arm salute.


    Gibson has previously compared Islam to the Ku Klux Klan, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, and another Patriot Prayer event featured Kyle Chapman, a self-described "American nationalist" famous on the alt-right for his violent take-down of an "anti-fascist" protester in Berkeley, California.

    A Patriot Prayer event last weekend in Portland also spiraled into violence, according to NBC affiliate KGW.

    Gibson has said that Christian had nothing to do with Patriot Prayer, and he said that people who attend his rallies need to be able to defend themselves from anti-fascists.

    He also criticized Saturday's "Unite the Right" event, saying event organizers "teamed up with white supremacists" and calling James Alex Fields Jr., who is charged with killing one person and injuring 19 others when he plowed into a crowd of anti-fascist counter-protesters, a "terrorist."

    "It was a horrible day," he said.

    In a statement early Sunday, Seattle Mayor Ed Murray said the "racist and hateful messages of protesters in Charlottesville do not reflect the values of our country or Seattle."

    "While we expect protests in Seattle Sunday," Murray added, "we must also condemn hate speech and violence."



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    The police kept the protestors and counter-protestors apart?

    Didn't they get the memo?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    #seattle on twitter has some interesting pics/vids
    There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
    -Major General Smedley Butler, USMC,
    Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner
    Author of, War is a Racket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    The police kept the protestors and counter-protestors apart?

    Didn't they get the memo?
    And hopefully this march organizers distance themselves from the suspect fed members like Nazi saluting Richard Spencer and useful idiots like Chris Cantwell.

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    Well as much as I detest liberal hell holes this might be odd . If there really are a bunch of conservatives there they probably do not really live in seattle , so why rally in a place where you will never make inroads ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    If there really are a bunch of conservatives there they probably do not really live in seattle , so why rally in a place where you will never make inroads ?
    Conservatives live in and around Seattle. They just keep their heads down and try not to make too much noise.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    And hopefully this march organizers distance themselves from the suspect fed members like Nazi saluting Richard Spencer and useful idiots like Chris Cantwell.
    Is this the same Cantwell who used to be on Free Talk Live?

    If so, what is he up to in all of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    Is this the same Cantwell who used to be on Free Talk Live?

    If so, what is he up to in all of this?
    Yes, he went full Trump some time last year. Remember when he burned the US flag on his youtube channel to decry societies obsession with symbols? now he is leading a march trying to preserve a statue.

    It is the same person but intellectually, he is very opposite to the person he was on free talk live



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Conservatives live in and around Seattle. They just keep their heads down and try not to make too much noise.
    https://results.vote.wa.gov/results/20161108/king/


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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Yes, he went full Trump some time last year. Remember when he burned the US flag on his youtube channel to decry societies obsession with symbols? now he is leading a march trying to preserve a statue.

    It is the same person but intellectually, he is very opposite to the person he was on free talk live
    Thanks for the update. I only follow FTL sporadically for the last year or so.

    I think it was Cantwell who had an experience in NH where he needed to display a pistol to prevent an assault. He said that the kops were pretty nice to him in the aftermath. And then Cantwell went pretty much copsucker for a time.

    As far as the statue thing, both sides are being gamed by the same people. The result will be anti speech and assembly laws and historical cleansing.

    There is a statue of Lenin around Seattle somewhere. Cantwell should lead a protest to tear it down.

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    Would ANTIFA sit idly by while people tore down this statue in Fremont, Washington?

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    I'd say the time has come to find out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I'd say the time has come to find out.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I'd say the time has come to find out.
    that is a great idea.



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