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    Default Restating the Obvious: An Open Letter from the Libertarian Movement

    Big hat-tip to @Antischism for bringing this to our attention.

    This is currently on the front page, but as far as I'm concerned, it can't get enough attention.

    Vote in the poll if you please.

    Today (August 12th, 2017), the “Unite the Right” rally is scheduled to proceed in Charlottesville, VA. The “Right” being united there isn’t just any “Right,” but one that welcomes white supremacists and self-described fascists. Multiple speakers will say this themselves, and the chants at a chaotic pre-event march the night before included Neo-Nazi slogans.

    The purpose of this letter is to clarify the role for libertarianism in this rally – which is no role at all.

    That clarification is necessary because it might appear otherwise. Three of the listed speakers have at one time or another identified as libertarians: Mike Enoch, Augustus Invictus, and Christopher Cantwell. Mike Enoch previously called himself a libertarian, but now mocks the philosophy as “autistic.” Augustus Invictus previously attempted to run for Senate through the Libertarian Party. Recently, though, he publicly changed his registration to Republican in disgust. Christopher Cantwell now seems ambivalent about his relationship with libertarianism and anarchism, but his primary identification is with fascism.

    Regardless of how any speakers or attendees have identified in the past or present, we want to make clear that this event is not in any way a place for libertarianism. Among libertarians, some identify as “right-wing,” some as “left-wing,” and some as “radical centrists.” Virtually the entire outside political spectrum is mirrored within libertarianism, and this makes for no shortage of infighting. One area where the undersigned have consensus, however, is in a rejection of any attempt to connect white supremacy and fascism to libertarianism. Libertarians, including those who see themselves as on “the Right,” have no interest in uniting with the horrifically authoritarian “Right” – often called the “Alt-Right” – rallying in Charlottesville.

    All this should be exceedingly obvious from even a cursory glance at the two movements.

    On a historical note, modern-day libertarianism largely took root in the English-speaking world through Jewish intellectuals, some of whom fled the Nazis. Our movement grew as a revolt against fascism, Communism, and early twentieth-century progressivism. As Thomas Leonard has shown in his Illiberal Reformers, that third enemy’s intellectual history is closely interwoven with eugenics.

    On the level of philosophy, libertarianism stresses the freedom of individuals even when that freedom goes against some supposed collective will. The entire point behind a politics of white supremacy is to replace free association with endless central planning and regulation on collectivist racial grounds. “Unite the Right” speaker Richard Spencer actively seeks to turn the United States into a 100% white ethno-state. It is impossible to conceive of this happening without a return of the total state and its horrors.

    Despite the obvious incompatibility of that totalitarianism and libertarianism (of any kind), an attempted association between the two is unsurprising. Attempts at rebooting authoritarian movements often operate through a tactic called entryism. Entryism is where a smaller political movement attempts to capture a larger one and seize its resources. In cases like fascism and Communism, the tendency towards entryism is probably a joint product of amoral opportunism and an inability to rationally defend their views.

    It is necessary, then, for libertarians to restate the exceedingly obvious and insist on the stark differences between our views and those of anyone with any affinity for National Socialist Germany.

    We, the undersigned, affirm such a gulf between liberty and its opposite.
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    -H. L. Mencken



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    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 08-13-2017 at 07:37 PM.
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    NOTHING is too strong a word, however I would say that libertarians or conservatives or minarchists or just about anybody sane should avoid working with these nuts, many of them are government provocateurs who would love nothing better than to black-wash us with the madness they promote.
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    Meh, already went through all this ten years ago with "newsletter-gate".

    Push poll, limited options, not taking part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Meh, already went through all this ten years ago with "newsletter-gate".

    Push poll, limited options, not taking part.
    I remember "newsletter-gate" just fine myself.

    Here's the difference AF; no one at that time was celebrating Ron's (alleged) connections to white nationalists.

    No one at that time thought it helpful to the liberty movement to associated with NAZIs.

    Now, evidently, some people do. Do you?
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I remember "newsletter-gate" just fine myself.

    Here's the difference AF; no one at that time was celebrating Ron's (alleged) connections to white nationalists.

    No one at that time thought it helpful to the liberty movement to associated with NAZIs.

    Now, evidently, some people do. Do you?
    Nobody saying that, that I can see or celebrating as far as I can see.

    I've already made my position clear: shame on us for sitting around with our thumbs up our asses while an agent of the leftist mob that is gearing itself up for real violence, attempted to assassinate the single most prominent political figure of the "liberty movement".

    If the "alt right" has gotten out ahead of us on standing up and finally pushing back against the hate filled, genocidal left, then that's our fault.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 08-13-2017 at 07:54 PM.

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    Silliness like this "poll" help show why some liberty people will always be on the losing end. Some RPFers here criticize attacks on things like confederate monuments, and what these same RPFers do here? They actually criticize the protestors in Charlottesville trying to do something about it.

    I am not even saying you had to show up. I'm saying some RPFers sit around and coffee klatch and STILL complain about someone who is trying to do something about the very thing the RPFer complains about.

    There is a member here named Southron who actually showed up at the rally and gave a decent account of what happened. Southron explicitly said he is not a white nationalist. I suspect many there were not so-called white nationalists. I'll bet a good number were simply conservative Univ. of VA students who had enough. This generation has been called all kinds of names by academic institutions, media, elitists, etc. They're called racist, hateful, privileged, etc. They are ridiculed and belittled at every turn. Is it any surprise that they act cornered and lash out?

    The world is not an either/or proposition. Yes, I am sure there were white nationalists protesting; however most rallies I have observed have people with views of varying degrees. I've attended a number of rallies in my life and there was always a great mix of political and social views, but still focused on one goal.

    I hardly like Donald Trump, but this idea that things are no different is baloney. Maybe not different in many areas or greatly significant areas, but this is one area where it seems to be different. I would bet that if Clinton were president, the response would be much, much different. The people who actually bothered to protest within legal parameters might be facing some real consequences, both legally and otherwise. There would be some really significant White House directives against these groups (or more than usual), and you would never even hear about it.

    Again, I find some of the passivity and criticism here rather ridiculous. If you think you can do better, then go out there. Some people will never do it, instead waiting in their fairy tale world with the hopes of all private roads and open borders. Now, coffee klatch away.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 08-13-2017 at 07:59 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I do think that ID should be required for certain things like carrying a concealed weapon...




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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Silliness like this "poll" help show why some liberty people will always be on the losing end. Some RPFers here criticize attacks on things like confederate monuments, and what these same RPFers do here? They actually criticize the protestors in Charlottesville trying to do something about it.

    I am not even saying you had to show up. I'm saying some RPFers sit around and coffee klatch and STILL complain about someone who is trying to do something about the very thing the RPFer complains about.

    There is a member here named Southron who actually showed up at the rally and gave a decent account of what happened. Southron explicitly said he is not a white nationalist. I suspect many there were not so-called white nationalists. I'll bet a good number were simply conservative Univ. of VA students who had enough. This generation has been called all kinds of names by academic institutions, media, elitists, etc. They're called racist, hateful, privileged, etc. They are ridiculed and belittled at every turn. Is it any surprise that they act cornered and lash out?

    The world is not an either/or proposition. Yes, I am sure there were white nationalists protesting; however most rallies I have observed have people with views of varying degrees. I've attended a number of rallies in my life and there was always a great mix of political and social views, but still focused on one goal.

    I hardly like Donald Trump, but this idea that things are no different is baloney. Maybe not different n many areas or greatly significant areas, but this is one area where it seems to be different. I would bet that if Clinton were president, the response would be much, much different. The people who actually bothered to protest within legal parameters might be facing some real consequences, both legally and otherwise. There would be some really significant White House directives against these groups (or more than usual), and you would never even hear about it.

    Again, I find some of the passivity and criticism here rather ridiculous. If you think you can do better, then go out there. Some people will never do it, instead waiting in their fairy tale world with the hopes of all private roads and open borders. Now, coffee klatch away.
    I agree with you about the rally, but the thread question did not ask about that, it simply refers to NAZIs and the alt-right.
    The sane people at the rally were only undercut and black-washed by working with them.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    There is a member here named Southron who actually showed up at the rally and gave a decent account of what happened. Southron explicitly said he is not a white nationalist. I suspect many there were not so-called white nationalists. I'll bet a good number were simply conservative Univ. of VA students who had enough. This generation has been called all kinds of names by academic institutions, media, elitists, etc. They're called racist, hateful, privileged, etc. They are ridiculed and belittled at every turn. Is it any surprise that they act cornered and lash out?
    No surprise at all. I have seen many more than one prominent voice of the left over the last year or so, speak out in favor utter elimination of white people.

    Now, maybe the people that are showing fits of righteous indignation at this whole incident, maybe they are not white or maybe they consider it all just "blowhard-ism" or maybe they just don't care.

    The fact of the matter is that some people do care and have obviously, as you suggested, have had enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Nobody saying that, that I can see or celebrating as far as I can see.
    Then you need new glasses bud.

    I've already made my position clear: shame on us for sitting around with our thumbs up our asses while an agent of the leftist mob that is gearing itself up for real violence, attempted to assassinate the single most prominent political figure of the "liberty movement".

    If the "alt right" has gotten out ahead of us on standing up and finally pushing back against the hate filled, genocidal left, then that's our fault.
    Well, that's as good as a vote.
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Well, that's as good as a vote.
    Oh, what did I vote for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Nobody saying that, that I can see or celebrating as far as I can see.

    I've already made my position clear: shame on us for sitting around with our thumbs up our asses while an agent of the leftist mob that is gearing itself up for real violence, attempted to assassinate the single most prominent political figure of the "liberty movement".

    If the "alt right" has gotten out ahead of us on standing up and finally pushing back against the hate filled, genocidal left, then that's our fault.
    Slam dunk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Nobody saying that, that I can see or celebrating as far as I can see.

    I've already made my position clear: shame on us for sitting around with our thumbs up our asses while an agent of the leftist mob that is gearing itself up for real violence, attempted to assassinate the single most prominent political figure of the "liberty movement".

    If the "alt right" has gotten out ahead of us on standing up and finally pushing back against the hate filled, genocidal left, then that's our fault.
    You, myself, and others have been beating that dead horse for years, to no apparent avail.

    No sense trying to help people who want it not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I remember "newsletter-gate" just fine myself.

    Here's the difference AF; no one at that time was celebrating Ron's (alleged) connections to white nationalists.

    No one at that time thought it helpful to the liberty movement to associated with NAZIs.

    Now, evidently, some people do. Do you?
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Should have added another set of anti-liberty neos (neo-cons) as they have made themselves a party to this debate. But yea that is stating the obvious and bit redundant. Just declaring self a "libertarian" ( Bill O'Rielly, Bill Maher, WaPo neocons etc) or supporting same sex wedding cakes does not make one so.

    As noted elsewhere:

    Not sure what exactly constitutes "alt right" as referred to in MSM headlines but would agree with above criticism if applied to the subset of "Right" (or "Left" or "Middle" for that matter) that champions collectivist,racist instigation of violence.

    That said, recent history shows that violent, racist alt-Neocons supported by likes of WaPo have caused much more damage to humanity than current isolationst nationalist groups being labelled by them as "alt-Right" ever could. Racially motivated horrible revenge attack on people of Iraq, bloody spreading of freedom/racial equality values in Syria were just couple of the many recent examples of how deeply racist, collectivist WaPo supported political slave masters of likes of disgraced DGP have been in practice. They got no moral authority to be judge of racially motivated violence.

    2003: Washington Post ran 27 editorials in favor of Iraq invasion


    On a historical note, modern-day libertarianism largely took root in the English-speaking world through Jewish intellectuals, some of whom fled the Nazis.
    Max Blumenthal comes to mind too. Such facts should be publicized more often to counter impressions like these MSM news create about some preseent day high profile anti-liberty intellectuals.

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    I support their first amendment rights, unlike Antifa, who went and started throwing rocks, throwing urine on people and macing people.
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    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    I'm amused that no one has voted in the negative.

    Perhaps I shouldn't have made it a public poll...
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Thanks

    Did you vote?
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I'm amused that no one has voted in the negative.

    Perhaps I shouldn't have made it a public poll...

    Perhaps you shouldn't have made it a CNN poll.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I do think that ID should be required for certain things like carrying a concealed weapon...




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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Perhaps you shouldn't have made it a CNN poll.
    O.. What's a CNN poll?

    ...one whose results are displeasing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Anybody who is awake knows that "Libertarian" is just a code word for "Alt-Right, Neo-nazi, White Supremacist".
    Certain people would like that to be true.

    Go to a neo-NAZI site; they're quite open about their intentions toward us.
    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    O.. What's a CNN poll?



    The polls that showed Hillary Clinton was really ahead and would likely be the next president.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I do think that ID should be required for certain things like carrying a concealed weapon...




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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I'm amused that no one has voted in the negative.

    Perhaps I shouldn't have made it a public poll...
    Strange concerns for a troll.
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Strange concerns for a troll.









    ..did I miss anything?

    O , wait...

    "The program of liberalism, ...if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property..."

    -Ludwig von Mises

    "Patriotism, not nationalism, should inspire the citizen. The ethnic nationalist who wants a linguistically and culturally uniform nation is akin to the racist who is intolerant toward those who look (and behave) differently. The patriot is a "diversitarian"; he is pleased, indeed proud of the variety within the borders of his country; he looks for loyalty from all citizens. And he looks up and down, not left and right."

    -Erik Maria Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn

    "All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    -H. L. Mencken

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    O , wait...

    Do you ever lose?
    The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    You too?

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    Anybody who is awake knows that "Libertarian" is just a code word for "Alt-Right, Neo-nazi, White Supremacist".
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    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Anybody who is awake knows that "Libertarian" is just a code word for "Alt-Right, Neo-nazi, White Supremacist".
    I think you meant the opposite if 'awake'. Did autocorrect change 'woke' after you typed it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas Adams
    'An SEP is something we can't see, or don't see, or our brain doesn't let us see, because we think that it's somebody else's problem. That’s what SEP means. Somebody Else’s Problem. The brain just edits it out, it's like a blind spot.'
    This government is Not Somebody Else's Problem

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