I wonder when the next court date will be, next summer maybe?Originally Posted by Swordsmyth
I would guess they want to arrange it so they get peak outrage just in time for the mid-terms.
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99.9999999999% of prosecutors care about nothing but their conviction rate.
It's highly unlikely that the prosecutor is trying to do anything other than convict (or get a plea).
That's kinda what I figured, until you said it, now I'm not so sure.
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One article said the only thing the defense attorney did was cross examine one witness. She asked the officer who arrested Fields what Field's reaction was when he was told he killed someone. That's it. No mention of the car being struck. That seems weird to me.
Has the defendant testified (or is there word that he's planning to testify)?
"Fields maintained he feared for his life at the Downtown Mall crossing, and hit the accelerator in panic"
The judge certified the charge of hit and run? I'm not sure what the point was of the hearing today. That's obviously a bogus charge.
I haven't been following this at all...
So, the trial hasn't actually started, they're still in pre-trial hearings?
Today was the first.. not very speedy, Gonzales.
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"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
One of the articles mentioned that his public defender attorney is related to one of the people he hit. that seems weird to me.
The hearing previous to today's was in August.
Okay, so Google tells me the trial hasn't started, hasn't even been an indictment yet.
I'll check back in when the Nazi *** is closer to his comeuppance.
The defense has the right to see the evidence, but the public doesn't.
We should just skip the trial and hang him for being a Nazi. /s
Ironically the Nazis and the BLMs should get along great, they have a lot in common. They're both socialists.
Last edited by Madison320; 12-15-2017 at 10:15 AM.
Yesterday was a "preliminary hearing" and according to the memorandum:
The charges are now:…cases will be presented to a regular grand jury of the Charlottesville Circuit Court on Monday, December 18, 2017 at 9:30 am. Further proceedings will be scheduled at that time...
1 felony count of hit and run
5 felony counts of malicious wounding
3 felony counts of aggravated malicious wounding and
1 felony count of first degree murder
That's sounds accurate, it's just that in other recent, highly controversial racial cases (Jena 6, Duke Lacrosse, Zimmerman, Michael Brown) it seemed like we were getting hourly updates on new evidence. This one is incredibly secretive.
Ummm... Unless said prosecutor knows there's no way he's getting a conviction for murder in this case.
In that case, he has an incentive to raise the charges to 1st degree to make it seem as though he was trying to throw the book at the guy. Then, he can blame the jury or his own over-zeal for the loss instead of the evidence.
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I'm not sure the reason, but the media and prosecution have a really bad record in these cases. If you look at the evidence we've seen in this case objectively, you'd have to conclude there's a decent possibility he's innocent. I think anybody who is 100% positive he's innocent or guilty has some major bias either way.
Police Chief Alfred Thomas resigned today.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.4e69b623f942
Charlottesville police chief resigns in wake of report on white supremacist rally
By Joe Heim December 18
Charlottesville Police Chief Alfred Thomas resigned abruptly Monday, just 17 days after the release of a report that was highly critical of the Police Department’s handling of an August white supremacist rally that turned deadly in the Virginia city.
The 207-page report prepared by Timothy Heaphy, a former U.S. attorney for the Western District of Virginia, concluded that the Police Department was ill-prepared, lacked proper training and had a flawed plan for managing the Unite the Right rally that drew hundreds of neo-Nazis and white nationalists to Charlottesville on Aug. 12 and resulted in violent clashes with counterprotesters. The lack of adequate preparation led to “disastrous results,” Heaphy wrote.
Thomas, an Air Force veteran who previously was chief of the Lexington, Va., Police Department, had led the Charlottesville agency only since May 2016. He was the city’s first black police chief.... (more)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.4e69b623f942
Let's wait and see who is next employer is. Follow the money.
Is he closer now? Has your programmed outrage been assuaged? No need for a trial. It's heads on pikes without trial!!!!
You're about as close to a progressive as it comes.
Last edited by phill4paul; 12-18-2017 at 07:11 PM.
This can't be right. According to this the trial date is set for Nov 26! So he's already going to have sat in jail for a year and a half before the trial even starts????
http://www.newsplex.com/content/news...467899263.html
Fun fact: Every case where a prosecutor does not secure any conviction, the costs of the case are paid by the prosecutor out of a trust fund they must maintain. IOW, the prosecutor holds all of the financial liability of the case unless and until it can be transferred to you via a conviction. This is why conviction rates, regardless of the level of charge (charge is a financial term!), is a prosecutor's priority. They don't want to foot the bill for the case if they can't get you to pay the costs.
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According to this article he waived his right to a speedy trial. That makes more sense but it still seems weird that he would agree to stay in jail for a year and a half. Unless they let him out on bail, but I thought bail was denied.
http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/lo...ff49a1576.html
I'm assuming that's only for criminal cases?
Almost an entire year before the trial starts? Yeah, seems way too long.
And why would he "waive his right to a speedy trial"? Are there any circumstances where that might make sense?
Odd.
The article claims both sides need that much time to prepare.. $#@! man, we already had the case cracked and all the evidence in the first few days..
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"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Good question. The vast majority of civil suits don't involve a government (corporation) prosecutor so the costs are generally the responsibility of the parties (exceptions being frivolous cases or agreement by settlement/judgment). It is worth noting that cases like traffic violations are actually civil contract cases. Most cases alleging "victimless crimes" are also civil contract cases though they are presented as being "criminal".
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Not to mention it's already been 5 months since the incident occurred. It doesn't say whether he's out on bail, that's the only thing that would make sense. He was denied bail in the beginning, but I don't know if that can change. The whole thing is fishy and I'm about the most non-conspiracy person here.
Kinda sounds like Las Vegas case time schedules. . .
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